Is Japan an isolationist nation?

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ARTICLE 9 Japanese Constitution. Aspiring sincerely to an international peace based on justice and order, the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes. (2) To accomplish the aim of the preceding paragraph, land, sea, and air forces, as well as other war potential, will never be maintained. The right of belligerency of the state will not be recognized.

The point I'm trying to make is I've never heard Japan referred to an isolationist nation.
If RP can be accused of being an isolationist, what does that make Japan? Super isolationist?

Ron Paul does not say the US should never intervene, but to follow the Constitution on when to intervene.
I believe RP would come to the defense of other counties (Israel), but only after counting to ten and approved by congress.

I think there is a good argument somewhere in there; I'm sure someone here can make a better argument from it.

Thanks
 
Yes.

Based on the definition being espoused by the warhawks, which includes the Neocons and the entire media establishment, both "liberal" and "conservative", Japan, as well as almost every other nation in the World, is "isolationist" because they dont attack and occupy other nations.
 
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Douglas McArthur wrote Japan's constitution, essentially, and they weren't allowed an army any more than Germany. NOW we've been trying to get Japan to take over the cost of their own defense for a generation but they know a sink hole cost off their backs when they see one.
 
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unknown said:
Yes.

Based on the definition being espoused by the warhawks, which includes the Neocons and the entire media establishment, both "liberal" and "conservative", Japan, as well as almost every other nation in the World, is "isolationist" because they dont attack and occupy other nations.
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I wouldn't see that as isolationist in itself with the way things are. Impossible to be isolationist with a foreign military stationed in your land. In principle they would be if we weren't there, but if we weren't there they wouldn't have such isolationist views in their constitution.
 
Japan engages in a lot of international trade, so no. They're not isolationists.
 
actually in many ways, japan is isolationist
i am from asia and i can tell you, Japan don't like to trade with other coutries
they don't speak english (worst english in whole asia)
because their economy is big enough domestically that they dun wan foreigners there
so yes japan is "isolationist"
on the other hand, korea, hong kong, singapore etc are not
my 2 cents
 
They are extremely anti-immigration, but I'm not even talking about the low end of immigration. They don't accept even super wealthy foreigners who want to move there and that's bad policy since they are an aging population with a debt to GDP ratio of 200%, which is higher than any other westernized country including Greece by a lot.

If they don't get new people into their system, they are headed for catastrophe.
 
The Japanese constitution was written after Japan's surrender and during the occupation by allied forces. McArthur had quite a bit to say about was what written.
 
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They are extremely anti-immigration, but I'm not even talking about the low end of immigration. They don't accept even super wealthy foreigners who want to move there and that's bad policy since they are an aging population with a debt to GDP ratio of 200%, which is higher than any other westernized country including Greece by a lot.

If they don't get new people into their system, they are headed for catastrophe.
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yes , japanese is really proud of themselves, and pretty much look down upon foreigners (maybe apart from usa, which they secretly admire)
 
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Douglas McCarther wrote Japan's constitution, essentially, and they weren't allowed an army any more than Germany. NOW we've been trying to get Japan to take over the cost of their own defense for a generation but they know a sink hole cost off their backs when they see one.
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^^ Yeah, that.
 
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Don't be fooled by the letter of their Constitution... Japan has one of the strongest military forces in the world.
 
Agorism said:
They are extremely anti-immigration, but I'm not even talking about the low end of immigration. They don't accept even super wealthy foreigners who want to move there and that's bad policy since they are an aging population with a debt to GDP ratio of 200%, which is higher than any other westernized country including Greece by a lot.

If they don't get new people into their system, they are headed for catastrophe.
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They're actually better off for not allowing immigration, you're repeating international socialist propaganda.
 
i hate to bring up the issue of race, but since we are on japanese immigration... i will.

we all heard how japanese were orderly and honest during and after the events of the earthquake/tsunami in march. stories on how people find and turn in wallets and safes to the authorities WITH the money still inside (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2027129/Honest-Japanese-return-78million-cash-earthquake-rubble.html) or the lack of looting or rude behaviors. Although, It is possible that the news neglect mentioning the negatives.

in the USA, we hear a lot of negatives during or after a big disaster. people looting or robbing people or being disorderly. sometimes we do hear the one or few positive stories of a few good people.

do you think the difference between japan and USA is the culture and upbringing? maybe it is because in japan there is mostly only it's "japanese" because of their anti-foreigner/immigration stance and it's not like in the USA where there are "chinese-americans, african-americans, german-american, cuban-american, and etc etc". why do you think theres such a big difference?

going back on topic, im sure the japanese would like to keep USA military presence around... just in case China decides something.
 
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