Is It Wrong To Strip Everything From Your House In Revenge Against Your Bank?

[klamath]

"Beware of the Elitist Utopians. Those that believe they are better than the average joe . . ."

Your Dad

Like those that try and bring a blood war to this country to build their idea of a free country
The Americans voted for the very government that they have. It reflects them.

 

[tmosley]

Thanks for taking what I said and claiming that I said the opposite. I wonder if the Ann Coulter banner ad was just a hilarious coincidence, or some sort of a sign?

 

[cheapseats]

Like those that try and bring a blood war to this country to build their idea of a free country
The Americans voted for the very government that they have. It reflects them.

Not me.

Actually, I was thinking of the type of person who, having experienced the ravages of “real” war – voluntarily, it bears repeating – will superimpose their heroic experience on All Other Experience. No one knows the troubles they know, I know.

Trouble is, the blood, guts and gore of the real-more-like-other war is pertinent to people in Iraq and other war-torn countries, not Americans in Shopper Land.

It is akin to a brick layer saying his work his harder than a data entry person’s job. Apples and asparagus.

You signed up for the job. Did you or did you not resent Rudy Cross-Dresser Giuliani incessantly touting his 9/11 performance? It was his JOB.

Because you have been traumatized by the blood, guts and gore variety of war, you think you know best that no amount of bullshit is worth bloodshed.

That’s called Appeasement.

MindOfMo Ask any target of a bully or parent of a teenager, APPEASEMENT IS FOR SUCKERS.
11:21 AM Oct 6th from web

I’d say ask Europe, but they seem to have forgotten how Appeasement plays out.

No one here gets out alive, okay? That I am WILLING to die does NOT mean that I am eager to die, NOR does it mean that I am ADVOCATING bloodshed. You’ll want to have a care how you phrase things. Big Brother is a Speed Reader.

 

[klamath]

Not me.

Actually, I was thinking of the type of person who, having experienced the ravages of “real” war – voluntarily, it bears repeating – will superimpose their heroic experience on All Other Experience. No one knows the troubles they know, I know.

Trouble is, the blood, guts and gore of the real-more-like-other war is pertinent to people in Iraq and other war-torn countries, not Americans in Shopper Land.

It is akin to a brick layer saying his work his harder than a data entry person’s job. Apples and asparagus.

You signed up for the job. Did you or did you not resent Rudy Cross-Dresser Giuliani incessantly touting his 9/11 performance? It was his JOB.

Because you have been traumatized by the blood, guts and gore variety of war, you think you know best that no amount of bullshit is worth bloodshed.

That’s called Appeasement.

MindOfMo Ask any target of a bully or parent of a teenager, APPEASEMENT IS FOR SUCKERS.
11:21 AM Oct 6th from web

I’d say ask Europe, but they seem to have forgotten how Appeasement plays out.

No one here gets out alive, okay? That I am WILLING to die does NOT mean that I am eager to die, NOR does it mean that I am ADVOCATING bloodshed. You’ll want to have a care how you phrase things. Big Brother is a Speed Reader.

Just do me the favor and not scream WAR in seven point type repeated times in a thread with the implication that as in war no holds are barred.

There are battles of beliefs on many fronts and always have been and today is not our worst day by a long shoot. Go back over a hundred and fifty year and Andy Jackson fought a great battle against the central bank but then ask the southeast indians what they thought of the trail of tears?

 

[lbadragan]

The government-bankster partnership mandate that the only legal medium of exchange aka money, is the federal reserve dollar. This they enforce by threat of enslaving you if you do not cooperate. Then the banksters make your savings worthless by inflating the dollar and their wealth with it. In fact they are so busy creating imaginary money that everything you need to buy is way more expensive than it otherwise would be without free credit.

You participate in this fraud by agreeing to commit x number of years of toil in order to pay the bank interest for the imaginary money the government allows them to invent. The banks regularly gamble with this imaginary money. When they win, they win. When they lose, you bail them out.

You people that talk about honoring contracts with the banks and about principles amaze me. You remind me of the good communists where I was born turning in their neighbors for buying and selling food and goods on the "black market" or for "stealing" from the factories they worked at. You think that the guy saying F U to the banks is the problem instead of seeing the reality that the banks are the problem and the guy getting foreclosed on is getting screwed.

Personally I've never done better financially than I have since the recession. My income has surged, I bought a house in May, I don't have much debt and have good reserves, etc... Even though I'm lucky and smart enough to navigate the bad economy, I can see that the average worker is getting royally screwed by this system and whether or not they obey the fraudulent contracts with the banks, they will still be screwed because this is the way the system is designed to work.

I see that we are a long way from when people will wake up and smell the putrid odor of what we now call "liberty" in this country. We live in an economy where we MUST continually and exponentially increase our debt in order to delay colapse. We live in a country where you have to work until noon just to pay the tax man and in 7-10 years our income taxes will barely cover the INTEREST on the federal debt. Wake up people. Even though YOU may be smarter or luckier than the majority and be doing well, just because you're doing ok doesn't mean you shouldn't fight against the tyranny of the bankster-government partnership.

 

[micahnelson]

For those that say this is "WAR" to quote them. Do you know what war is? Have you watched tracers streak by you? Have you felt the concusion of morter rounds or rocket warheads to the marrow of your bones? Have you wittnessed the real abject poverty of of a war torn land first hand? Have you picked up the pieces of you comrades or seen the death on the otherside?

If not SHUT THE F**K UP ABOUT WAR. YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT WAR IS!

If you haven't served in the military, you can't talk about war. Maybe only military members should be president. Maybe only military people should vote.

Also, I'm not going to believe you until you make your font sufficiently larger.

 

[cheapseats]

Just do me the favor and not scream WAR in seven point type repeated times in a thread with the implication that as in war no holds are barred.

There ARE no holds barred, where ya been? Americans have acquiesced to TORTURE, for fuck's sake.

Me and big, bold lettering go way back on this board, and further back online. Particularly on a Libertarian Board ought people to quit telling me HOW to post.

There are battles of beliefs on many fronts and always have been and today is not our worst day by a long shoot. Go back over a hundred and fifty year and Andy Jackson fought a great battle against the central bank but then ask the southeast indians what they thought of the trail of tears?

And that whole jumbled up mess known as America History brought us HERE AND NOW. Today is BY FAR the worst time in MY life, and I've got more than half a century under my belt. I don't hardly recognize this place. We are a national disgrace.

I ask you, what is Life without Freedom? Do you feel Free?

I AM NOT IMPUGNING YOU, CLEARLY. OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE BRAVE, AND WORDS CANNOT CONVEY ADEQUATE THANKS FOR YOU SERVICE.

As a Truism, in MY worldview, only the young/immature and the cowardly think death is the worst of all fates.

Peace. Also Honor.

 

[klamath]

If you haven't served in the military, you can't talk about war. Maybe only military members should be president. Maybe only military people should vote.

Also, I'm not going to believe you until you make your font sufficiently larger.

Maybe you had oaught to go back through the thread and check how many times the word WAR was posted in seven point type in our faces before I posted this.

 

[phill4paul]

This is not directed at any one individual, but rather any that have ever, or are considering, fighting for "Amerika"..

We know why some go to WAR....

Smedley Darlington Butler (July 30, 1881 – June 21, 1940), nicknamed "The Fighting Quaker" and "Old Gimlet Eye", was a Major General in the U.S. Marine Corps and, at the time of his death, the most decorated Marine in U.S. history.

"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."

If you ever fought a WAR in Amerikas interest then you should think of fighting again. This time for the right side.

 

[klamath]

There ARE no holds barred, where ya been? Americans have acquiesced to TORTURE, for fuck's sake.

Me and big, bold lettering go way back on this board, and further back online. Particularly on a Libertarian Board ought people to quit telling me HOW to post.





And that whole jumbled up mess known as America History brought us HERE AND NOW. Today is BY FAR the worst time in MY life, and I've got more than half a century under my belt. I don't hardly recognize this place. We are a national disgrace.

I ask you, what is Life without Freedom? Do you feel Free?

I AM NOT IMPUGNING YOU, CLEARLY. OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE BRAVE, AND WORDS CANNOT CONVEY ADEQUATE THANKS FOR YOU SERVICE.

As a Truism, in MY worldview, only the young/immature and the cowardly think death is the worst of all fates.

Peace. Also Honor.

Thank you for your words but let me tell you I cannot call it service but more a disservice to our country and I feel no pride in myself for that service.
I am not a pasifist as that is contrary to the universal laws by I feel man is far to ready to kill his fellow man and find afterwards freedoms cause was not served by the senseless killing.
It is far to easy to jump out of the frying pan into the fire with wrong action.
I like you do not like how little freedoms stand today or I wouldn't be hanging around on a politcal forum.
I try and hold the torture against history. We are debating it during this war! It is not new to this war. This country as well a almost all others commited torture in past wars. It wasn't even debated! It was accepted without question.
The US locked up 200,000 of its own citizens durning WWII and it was perfectly acceptable.
Have hope and remember that no one can really ever take you freedom. You are born free and will die free. Governments and other tyrants may scare you with bodily harm that might make you comply but that was your decision to avoid the pain. They may kill you because didn't comply but still they didn't take your freedom. How much pain are you willing to endure to practice freedom is up to you. Some people have hard time understanding this concept.

 

[klamath]

This is not directed at any one individual, but rather any that have ever, or are considering, fighting for "Amerika"..

We know why some go to WAR....

Smedley Darlington Butler (July 30, 1881 – June 21, 1940), nicknamed "The Fighting Quaker" and "Old Gimlet Eye", was a Major General in the U.S. Marine Corps and, at the time of his death, the most decorated Marine in U.S. history.

"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."

If you ever fought a WAR in Amerikas interest then you should think of fighting again. This time for the right side.

It is a lot harder to find out if you are fighting for the right side than most people think. It always seems so clear in the begining who the enemy is but as the blood flows you start to wonder and then you start to question, and then you vomit at what a fool you have been.

 

[tmosley]

Just do me the favor and not scream WAR in seven point type repeated times in a thread with the implication that as in war no holds are barred.

I did it once. You have done it four times. I have also made it abundantly clear that this is ECONOMIC warfare. You do nothing but twist my words and LIE. You should apply for a job in the Obama administration. You'd fit right in. They might let you drop the first bomb on Iran.

 

[klamath]

I did it once. You have done it four times. I have also made it abundantly clear that this is ECONOMIC warfare. You do nothing but twist my words and LIE. You should apply for a job in the Obama administration. You'd fit right in. They might let you drop the first bomb on Iran.

On reviewing the thread I find that I counted the quotes of your "this is war you fools" post. I admit the mistake and apologize for the error. Glad to hear that you mean only ecomonic warefare.
To many time the theme of violence comes up here and and I will contest it every time I see it.

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

On reviewing the thread I find that I counted the quotes of your "this is war you fools" post. I admit the mistake and apologize for the error. Glad to hear that you mean only ecomonic warefare.
To many time the theme of violence comes up here and and I will contest it every time I see it.

Do you think there comes a time where violence is needed? Obviously, this isn't such a time (yet), but we are rapidly coming to close on that time. If you are not willing to fight for your liberty, then ultimately, you will have no liberty.

 

[klamath]

Do you think there comes a time where violence is needed? Obviously, this isn't such a time (yet), but we are rapidly coming to close on that time. If you are not willing to fight for your liberty, then ultimately, you will have no liberty.

A time may come but as long a the American people are voting in a large majority for the very policies that are enslaving us it cannot be changed by any means. It would only bring death and destruction and even less freedom. I cannot hate the American people for their different belief in what freedom is, to incite violence. From this thread alone it shows that if you start killing people for issues we would be killing ourselves.
Far to often people worship the war leaders as the greatest (Truman, FDR, Wilson, TR, etc) but give nothing to those leaders that accomplished the same and better change without wars.
The hate on this thread is against banks but what is a bank? It is made up of people just like everone else. My daughter works at a bank, has no understanding of FRN's or fractional reserve banking. She actually processes loans for car buyers and does not falsify car prices or try to to get people to take a loan out they can't afford. She just does her job and goes home to her baby. What are the actual targets not just some nebulus thing called the bankers? Who do you frame your gun sight picture on and squeeze off the trigger? If my daughter is named in this I will no longer be nonviolent and it won't be against the "bankers".

 

[s35wf]

A time may come but as long a the American people are voting in a large majority for the very policies that are enslaving us it cannot be changed by any means. It would only bring death and destruction and even less freedom. I cannot hate the American people for their different belief in what freedom is, to incite violence. From this thread alone it shows that if you start killing people for issues we would be killing ourselves.
Far to often people worship the war leaders as the greatest (Truman, FDR, Wilson, TR, etc) but give nothing to those leaders that accomplished the same and better change without wars.
The hate on this thread is against banks but what is a bank? It is made up of people just like everone else. My daughter works at a bank, has no understanding of FRN's or fractional reserve banking. She actually processes loans for car buyers and does not falsify car prices or try to to get people to take a loan out they can't afford. She just does her job and goes home to her baby. What are the actual targets not just some nebulus thing called the bankers? Who do you frame your gun sight picture on and squeeze off the trigger? If my daughter is named in this I will no longer be nonviolent and it won't be against the "bankers".

I do believe OR atleast "Hope" that the majority of "us" know that the people who work at banks like tellers, secretaries, loan officers, etc.... DO NOT KNOW OR Understand how the system works! The Banksters are the CEO's on Wallstreet the majority of the "crooks" DO NOT reside in your/our local branches! They sit behind their executive desks in the highrise buildings; NOT your local bank office! Secretaries, tellers, loan officers, etc.... the "peons or little people" NEED to become informed about what their companies are doing to our country, but they do not deserve ANY retaliation for what their companies do! The BIG CEO's are the ones that NEED that the thrashing!

 

[micahnelson]

Do you think there comes a time where violence is needed? Obviously, this isn't such a time (yet), but we are rapidly coming to close on that time. If you are not willing to fight for your liberty, then ultimately, you will have no liberty.

Depends who you are fighting. If you can explain to me how ousting an elected government expands liberty, I would be quite impressed. Not that we could "Win", but if we did- would we hold elections? If not- how committed to liberty are we, if so- why would we expect people to vote or act differently than before.

Revolution in the streets is unnecessary if we can ignite a coup in the minds of our fellow citizens. Bloodshed should never be our only hope- a bullet is the ultimate oppressor.

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Depends who you are fighting. If you can explain to me how ousting an elected government expands liberty, I would be quite impressed. Not that we could "Win", but if we did- would we hold elections? If not- how committed to liberty are we, if so- why would we expect people to vote or act differently than before.

Revolution in the streets is unnecessary if we can ignite a coup in the minds of our fellow citizens. Bloodshed should never be our only hope- a bullet is the ultimate oppressor.

Who said anything about ousting? If worst comes to worst, I'm at the least talking about community secession to State secession. I'm under no disillusion the Federals won't waste one minute sending in troops and we'll have War of wherever Independance part duex. I don't want to overthrow, I want to leave and start anew, if worst comes to worst.

 

[klamath]

No state has a majority of the people that want to leave the union and even if there was, there still would be a large minority within that state that wanted to stay with the union. What do you do with those people?

 

[torchbearer]

No state has a majority of the people that want to leave the union and even if there was, there still would be a large minority within that state that wanted to stay with the union. What do you do with those people?

give them a road map.