Is It Nuts to Let Iran Go Nuclear?

[The Free Hornet]

He was libertarian socialist.

Regarding the definition above, "without private property in the means of production." This is not libertarianism by any means. Nor is it objectivism or classical liberalism. The only way to not have private property is by a stronger entity - e.g., the state or a collective of some sort - preventing its ownership by other parties (besides the state/collective).

How and why you bother yourself about Eduardo belonging here is beyond me (JuicyG to Eduardo "Dunno wtf you`re doing on this board to be honest.").

I have no bone in spats about Israel, Iran, or Spain.

Everything is potentially means of production. Your hands, the rocks and sticks you pick up with your hands, and the tree stump you sit on to do something with those rocks and sticks, they are all means of production.

 

[thoughtomator]

I fail to see the distinction between "libertarian socialism" and just plain socialism. Where does the libertarian part come in?

 

[eduardo89]

I fail to see the distinction between "libertarian socialism" and just plain socialism. Where does the libertarian part come in?

Liberterian socialism is what communism is supposed to be. Socialism involved the state, Marxism eliminates the state and leaves the means of production in the hands of the workers through unions, councils, soviets, etc.

How JuicyG can arrive at the conclusion that liberterian socialism is a part of the liberty movement is beyond comprehension, but then again so are the majority of his arguments.

 

[eduardo89]

JuicyG couldnt defend his ridiculous accusations and statements so he flees...

 

[Tim Calhoun]

NOPE. If you believe in freedom and you`re not a statist you`d rather side with libertarian socialist any given day versus royalists/fascists or communists. They believed in a gift and barter economy which I`m not a fan of but beats the hell of those other options.

It`s basically a system on the extreme right of social liberties but somewhat on left on economics. If I were to pick, I`d pick individual freedom even with an agrarian system than fascism or communism.

You've really gone full retard here.

Despite its name, and libertarian socialist society is not one with individual freedom as it completely disregards private property. I would despise to live in such a world, where you essentially enslave yourself. Fascism is more desirable to libertarian socialism and it isn't even close.

 

[JuicyG]

JuicyG couldnt defend his ridiculous accusations and statements so he flees...

Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.

 

[JuicyG]

You've really gone full retard here.

Despite its name, and libertarian socialist society is not one with individual freedom as it completely disregards private property. I would despise to live in such a world, where you essentially enslave yourself. Fascism is more desirable to libertarian socialism and it isn't even close.

Let`s just agree to disagree without -reps. Ok?

 

[eduardo89]

Let`s just agree to disagree without -reps. Ok?

Lead by example:

01-27-2012 04:36 AM JuicyG
Thread: I almost became a fan...
christianity is biggest disease that plagues this earth for 2k yaer

01-26-2012 04:16 PM JuicyG
Thread: Pregnancy from rape is...
touchy touchy altair boy; this world is a fucking up place because delusional people like yourself

 

[bolil]

ZING!

 

[JuicyG]

Lead by example:

Sure you wanna go that route?

"Go away you Zionist pig"

Humans have a right to life, animals don't.

Atheism is a disease of the soul

Also, maybe I should mention I like lots of Jesus` teachings but I`m not fan at all of organized religion which I believe is evil and statist. And yes I stand by what I`ve said that Christianity, mainly catholic church(which is what I`ve had in mind when i`ve -repped you) had an extremely negative impact over the past few centuries. Worth mentioning I used to be a catholic and probably read more religious books than you have.

 

[eduardo89]

Sure you wanna go that route?

I'm not the one who suggested not -repping. I have no problem dishing them out and receiving them. I give them out when people spew utter idiocy or offensive things, as is the norm for your posts.

Also, maybe I should mention I like lots of Jesus` teachings but I`m not fan at all of organized religion which I believe is evil and statist. And yes I stand by what I`ve said that Christianity, mainly catholic church(which is what I`ve had in mind when i`ve -repped you) had an extremely negative impact over the past few centuries. Worth mentioning I used to be a catholic and probably read more religious books than you have.

Well then, you obviously know what you're talking about and are completely right with regards to everything...

 

[FrankRep]

Wasn't Orwell a socialist? lol

He was libertarian socialist.

According to George Orwell's biography, he was a Democratic Socialist.

Orwell was anti-Stalinist, anti-Soviet, and anti-Communist