Is Donald Trump trying to throw the election?

[jmdrake]

Why would Biden be the best when he has a Green Deal in mind and could ruin more jobs?

Some people actually believe in the Green New Deal. And at this point, with Trump having endorsed UBI, at least "temporary", and medicare for all, at least "temporary", there's basically a choice between a demented socialist (Biden) and a "temporary socialist", Trump. Also Biden is trying to out Trump, Trump on China claiming (falsely) that Trump hasn't been hard enough on China in relation to COVID-19. Seriously this election is a circus.

 

[jmdrake]

Josh's link is about injecting hydrogen peroxide into the lungs. It's not the best word to use, ya, maybe Trump picked the wrong word, but he didn't say anything wrong, he was asking doctors about what they are testing, not telling people what to do.. and YOU fail the nationally administered IQ test.

If passage of the IQ test is believing like you do that Trump set of a nuke inside the U.S. to save children within the blast radius of the nuke for pedophiles, then yes I "fail" but really your IQ test is flawed and you're too stupid to know that.

Now back to the thread. The doctor had just talked about how fast chlorine and alcohol kills the virus! Trumped referred to those disinfectants when he said they kill the virus in minutes! His words weren't "twisted." They were just stupid. A Scott Adams video doesn't change that. If Trump wanted to talk about hydrogen peroxide therapy or IV vitamin C then he should have said "hydrogen peroxide and IV vitamin C." Sheesh!

 

[susano]

Meanwhile and in spite of Trump's usual inability to articulate something based in fact...

ENGLEWOOD, CO / ACCESSWIRE / April 20, 2020 / Aytu BioScience, Inc. (AYTU) (the "Company"), a specialty pharmaceutical company focused on commercializing novel products that address significant patient needs announced today that it has signed an exclusive worldwide license from Cedars-Sinai to develop and commercialize the Healight Platform Technology ("Healight"). This medical device technology platform, discovered and developed by scientists at Cedars-Sinai, is being studied as a potential first-in-class treatment for coronavirus and other respiratory infections.

Led by Mark Pimentel, MD, the research team of the Medically Associated Science and Technology (MAST) Program at Cedars-Sinai has been developing the patent-pending Healight platform since 2016 and has produced a growing body of scientific evidence demonstrating pre-clinical safety and effectiveness of the technology as an antiviral and antibacterial treatment. The Healight technology employs proprietary methods of administering intermittent ultraviolet (UV) A light via a novel endotracheal medical device. Pre-clinical findings indicate the technology's significant impact on eradicating a wide range of viruses and bacteria, inclusive of coronavirus. The data have been the basis of discussions with the FDA for a near-term path to enable human use for the potential treatment of coronavirus in intubated patients in the intensive care unit (ICU). Beyond the initial pursuit of a coronavirus ICU indication, additional data suggest broader clinical applications for the technology across a range of viral and bacterial pathogens. This includes bacteria implicated in ventilator associated pneumonia (VAP).

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/aytu-bioscience-signs-exclusive-global-120000824.html


I agree that Trump is incapable taking an opportunity to skewer his opponents. He could have immediately come out and said something like "Why are Democraps trying to get people to kill themselves by injecting bleach and trying to deny people potentially life saving therapy such as Healight and other light frequency treatment? This is cutting edge and the future of medicine." Sadly, Trump is too much of a scatterbrain to be able to do that. I really think the guy has ADD. I have a friend who talks just like him, spewing all kinds of incoherent word salad even when it's based upon correct information.

I vehemently disagree with this statement, though:

That's why the governor of Florida is SMART for allowing the beaches to re-open as long as people keep in moving and don't congregate.

NO NO NO. We must NEVER concede that any official has the right to close a beach, in the first place, or any right to tell us how we can congregate. I know for a fact that there is no "COVID-19" virus or pandemic but, even if there were, it's MY CHOICE to take my own risks. I have a right to go where I want with whomever I want, pandemics or or no pandemics. Those who are scared or brainwashed are free to suit up in hazmat gear or hide under their beds. I don't give af but nobody has the authority to suspend the Bill of Rights so don't cede that to that. It's Republicans trying to play it safe and be semi-liberals that have contributed to our demise as a nation.

 

[dannno]

I debunked this thread again this morning in my personal life. I've never debunked a thread harder than this one in my personal life, wow..

I spoke with a girl on my social media who posted the CNN story, she was very upset about Trump telling people to inject or drink disinfectants.

I've never talked to her about politics before in my life.

I started a chat with her, and in the beginning I was very nervous because I could tell she had a sever case of TDS... in less than five minutes she had decided not to trust the mainstream media anymore and asked me for more balanced news sources. I happened to come up with the perfect one based on what I know about her, and she was extremely happy.

In fact, I would bet $50 that she ends up voting for Trump, and never, ever would have had the fake news media not pushed this specific story and had we not had our conversation..

This is the same BS kind of thread we have seen thousands of times about Trump since 2015.. "Can you BELIEVE what the Orange Man did?! Is he sabotaging the primary race??" "Can you BELIEVE what the Orange Man did? Is he sabotaging the general election?!" "Can you BELIEVE what the Orange Man did?! Is he sabotaging his Presidency??" ... and now finally "Can you BELIEVE what the Orange Man did? Is he sabotaging the 2020 election?!!"

Good lord, give it a rest, haven't you reset your filters enough by now to stop falling for this crap?

 

[dannno]

If passage of the IQ test is believing like you do that Trump set of a nuke inside the U.S. to save children within the blast radius of the nuke for pedophiles, then yes I "fail" but really your IQ test is flawed and you're too stupid to know that.

Now back to the thread. The doctor had just talked about how fast chlorine and alcohol kills the virus! Trumped referred to those disinfectants when he said they kill the virus in minutes! His words weren't "twisted." They were just stupid. A Scott Adams video doesn't change that. If Trump wanted to talk about hydrogen peroxide therapy or IV vitamin C then he should have said "hydrogen peroxide and IV vitamin C." Sheesh!

You are fake news.

Here is the transcript:

So, I’m going to ask Bill a question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposing when we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful.

If you think there is ANYTHING wrong with that comment, you have failed the national IQ test.

 

[jmdrake]

Josh's link is about injecting hydrogen peroxide into the lungs. It's not the best word to use, ya, maybe Trump picked the wrong word, but he didn't say anything wrong, he was asking doctors about what they are testing, not telling people what to do.. and YOU fail the nationally administered IQ test.

LOL @ Scott Adams carrying Trump water. Transcript of what Trump actually said.


So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful, light — and I think you said that hasn’t been checked but you’re going to test it — and then I said suppose you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting.

Then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. Is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside? Or almost a cleaning, ‘cause you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it’d be interesting to check that. So you’re going to have to use medical doctors but it sounds interesting to me, so we’ll see but the whole concept of the light. The way it kills it in one minute, that’s pretty powerful.

So there were two separate statements. The first was about ultraviolet light, inside and out. The second was about disinfectant. The disinfectants that had just been discussed were alcohol and chlorine. But hey, maybe Trump meant UV light as disinfectant? NOT ACCORDING TO TRUMP! HE CLAIMED HE WAS JUST BEING SARCASTIC!



One way to tell people are lying is if they can't get keep the story synchronized. Trump's spokesperson says he was really talking about UV light Trump then says he was being sarcastic. Trump then says he was only talking about disinfectant on the hands. (Something everybody already knew).

 

[jmdrake]

You are fake news.

Here is the transcript:



If you think there is ANYTHING wrong with that comment, you have failed the national IQ test.

Trump has failed your national IQ test because he came out later can claimed he was being sarcastic proving your Scott Adams video to be a lie.

 

[dannno]

Trump has failed your national IQ test because he came out later can claimed he was being sarcastic proving your Scott Adams video to be a lie.

Ya, Trump was wrong on that one, he wasn't being sarcastic - however I give him the benefit of the doubt because the way that the media portrayed what he said he probably didn't remember exactly what he said.

But ya, if you think that is a big deal or something, you are over-reacting. Over-reacting to things Trump does is the #1 symptom of TDS.

 

[dannno]

The second was about disinfectant. The disinfectants that had just been discussed were alcohol and chlorine. But hey, maybe Trump meant UV light as disinfectant? NOT ACCORDING TO TRUMP!

He said "something like that", I posted the transcript and bolded that for you.. so he was not referring to any specific disinfectants as you have claimed several times.

And like I said originally, Josh made a thread specifically about using a disinfectant in the lungs to clear corona virus.

So Trump is probably on track here to help uncover some effective treatments. And you just sound crazy.

 

[Working Poor]

Why would Biden be the best when he has a Green Deal in mind and could ruin more jobs?

I don't know why. Many here may know that I have been working with solar energy for quite a while. I have done some pretty cool stuff with in the industry. Every since I heard about the "green new deal" I have felt different about the work I have done. The industry no longer matches my motive for doing the work. I did like helping people in remote areas without electricity have power. I liked brain storming to help make solar power less expensive and more compact but I never considered myself at war with the oil industry. To me solar is still not a practical choice for most people. I believe there is technology that is being repressed and I guess for the most part big oil must be blocking it or are they?

I don't want to be forced into buying anything. I have always hated insurance for that very reason. I don't understand how people would comply with it and allow it to become a law. It just makes no sense to me. I like tinkering around with materials to transform one thing into something else that is useful and practical or has beauty but I am not into being forced into something. I believe there is a way to power the whole world in a clean and efficient manner the way things are I have no idea if I will live to see it. I believe time travel and anti gravity technology could be available one day.

 

[jmdrake]

Ya, Trump was wrong on that one, he wasn't being sarcastic - however I give him the benefit of the doubt because the way that the media portrayed what he said he probably didn't remember exactly what he said.

But ya, if you think that is a big deal or something, you are over-reacting. Over-reacting to things Trump does is the #1 symptom of TDS.

Making excuses for everything Trump says and then name calling after you've been proven right is the #1 symptom of Trump Delusion Syndrome which you have in spades. And all of this goes back to my main point in the OP. Trump seems to be throwing the election. He could have easily cleaned this up with a statement of "I misspoke and I was really talking about UV light the whole time." Instead he just dug himself in deeper, needlessly. He could be taking a victory lap over his "hunch" about the under count of the number of infected. Instead he's just being silent about that. Oh, and as for throwing the governor of Georgia under the bus, not only did he not need to say anything, but the idea that hair salons can't do their business safely just because they are close in proximity to their clients is asinine. This whole "stay 6 feet away and your safe" nonsense is just that...nonsense. The virus hangs in the air for hours and floats on air currents. If you want to be protected you need to wear PPE. There's no reason a hair salon can't use PPE. In fact most use gloves anyway to protect from the chemicals.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

While latest 'making em nervous' media angle might have tad bit basis, if economy turned around before Nov, not going to be easy for Dems to win.



Nervous Republicans See Trump Sinking, and Taking Senate With Him
April 25, 2020
9 min read

WASHINGTON — President Trump’s erratic handling of the coronavirus outbreak, the worsening economy and a cascade of ominous public and private polling have Republicans increasingly nervous that they are at risk of losing the presidency and the Senate if Mr. Trump does not put the nation on a radically improved course.
The scale of the G.O.P.’s challenge has crystallized in the last week. With 26 million Americans now having filed for unemployment benefits, Mr. Trump’s standing in states that he carried in 2016 looks increasingly wobbly: New surveys show him trailing significantly in battleground states like Michigan and Pennsylvania, and he is even narrowly behind in must-win Florida.

Democrats raised substantially more money than Republicans did in the first quarter in the most pivotal congressional races, according to recent campaign finance reports. And while Mr. Trump is well ahead in money compared with the presumptive Democratic nominee, Joseph R. Biden Jr., Democratic donors are only beginning to focus on the general election, and several super PACs plan to spend heavily on behalf of him and the party.
Perhaps most significantly, Mr. Trump’s single best advantage as an incumbent — his access to the bully pulpit — has effectively become a platform for self-sabotage.
His daily news briefings on the coronavirus outbreak are inflicting grave damage on his political standing, Republicans believe, and his recent remarks about combating the virus with sunlight and disinfectant were a breaking point for a number of senior party officials.
On Friday evening, Mr. Trump conducted only a short briefing and took no questions, a format that a senior administration official said was being discussed as the best option for the president going forward.
Glen Bolger, a longtime Republican pollster, said the landscape for his party had become far grimmer compared with the pre-virus plan to run almost singularly around the country’s prosperity.

dnyuz.com/2020/04/25/nervous-republicans-see-trump-sinking-and-taking-senate-with-him/

 

[susano]

Jeez, this conversation! Trump never said anything about injecting any liquids. The disinfectant is the UV light. he obviously discussed it with Birx or whomever he was turning and speaking to but got it screwed up for lack of full understanding. It's Democraps saying he told people to inject Lysol or whatever, just like they lied and said he told people to drink fish tank cleaner.

Trump can't own dumb shit that he says so he claims he was being sarcastic which undercuts anyone trying to come to his defense - as usual. Geraldo is taking a real beating over this. Trump's a narcissist who can't be wrong or admit he made an error. the sad part is that he was correct about light being put INSIDE the body!

Such a clusterfuck. Trump and his ADD and narcissism vs a communist Satanic media and the mush brains who can't figure out what Trump was talking about and will never know about light therapy because Trump. Ha, it's like reality has become a big mental hospital.

Here's are my concerns:

A global scamdemic and the evil agenda behind it.
The 2020 election. We either get Trump and his erratic mind or we get the full blown commie boot on our faces with the only way out being war.

And why in the hell isn't EVERYONE here saying NOBODY has the right to prevent any of us from congregating where we want, with whom we want and as physically close as want?!

 

[69360]

The premise of this thread assumes I actually care if Trump or Biden wins.

 

[Madison320]

Repealing medicare and medicaid would require Trump to speak about healthcare. So yes. It's an ignorant position. The president speaking about something isn't the same as getting the government involved in it.

Who cares about a COMMENT made by the president!!! All you should care about is actions.

I care about liberty and in that regard Trump gets a D based on the way he is expanding the size of government. Which is still way better than any democrat who all get F's.

I've changed my mind about one thing. I thought Trump would lose the election based on the economy collapsing (this was before the corona virus). But now I think the corona virus is going the give him the election. The economy is going to be in much worse shape in November, this bubble is just starting to pop. But I think people are going to blame it on the shutdown and the democrats seems to own that issue right now. I think it's going to backfire big time. In fact I can picture both Trump and Biden pledging never to shutdown the economy like that again.

 

[devil21]

The comments were so bizarre that I wondered if they weren't Qesque coding of some sort. Sunlight, UV, disinfectant all sound metaphorical. Nukes give off a lot of UV at detonation, as bright as the sun, and certainly "disinfect" everything in the area from the inside out. Dunno. Those comments were bizarre even by Trump standards and the video that circulated of Birx's reaction when he said it were downright scary. She looked like she was going to have an anxiety attack on the spot. She should be well accustomed to his nonsense by now, not triggered by his latest nonsense.

 

[susano]

Who cares about a COMMENT made by the president!!! All you should care about is actions.

I care about liberty and in that regard Trump gets a D based on the way he is expanding the size of government. Which is still way better than any democrat who all get F's.

I've changed my mind about one thing. I thought Trump would lose the election based on the economy collapsing (this was before the corona virus). But now I think the corona virus is going the give him the election. The economy is going to be in much worse shape in November, this bubble is just starting to pop. But I think people are going to blame it on the shutdown and the democrats seems to own that issue right now. I think it's going to backfire big time. In fact I can picture both Trump and Biden pledging never to shutdown the economy like that again.

Isn't it awful! What to do??? Don't vote. Vote for third party. Vote communist. Vote for the unpredictable idiot who, at least, sort of seems to be pro American.

 

[dannno]

The comments were so bizarre

The comments were not bizarre. Both technologies have been discussed in depth here, and the media is trying to obscure any possible treatments because they want as many people to die as possible.

 

[jmdrake]

Who cares about a COMMENT made by the president!!! All you should care about is actions.

Because a president isn't a dictator and so the only way he can accomplish anything is through persuasion. He can't repeal medicare and medicaid by executive order. He would have to convince a majority in the House and 2/3rds majority of the Senate to go along. But hey, you want to rant go ahead and rant.

 

[showpan]

It's not an ignorant position. The Government should get the hell out of healthcare.
Trump can do something like repealing medicare & Medicaid.

And who would take care of grandma and grandpa and all the disabled that can't work....you? Just saying...lol....don't see how that is possible at this time since so many people rely on it. If you are going to get rid of it and let grandma die, then why not SS too at the same time so they can go live in the street while they die of starvation, that is if the common cold doesn't get them first.