Is Bernie Following a Jeffersonian Model by Wanting to Bust Up Big Banks?

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Provocative essay.


http://hubpages.com/politics/When-Bernie-Busts-Up-the-Big-Banks-We-Will-Have-Our-Country-Back

When Bernie Busts Up the Big Banks, We Will Have Our Country Back

The import of Bernie Sanders’ vow to break up the “too big to fail” banks to preclude them from demanding another bailout is difficult to overstate. As far back as the founding of the republic, the Founding Fathers feared the money power of the New York and Philadelphia banking centers above all else as a threat to liberty, and a threat to the Constitution. The big banks own everything — the defense industry, the oil companies, the media. There is nowhere important they do not have a significant shareholder stake, and direct or indirect representation on corporate boards.

Thomas Jefferson said:

“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies...”

In the shaping of the Constitution, the Founders took extraordinary pains to reserve the power to issue money to the US Treasury, which stood until the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 essentially circumvented this. Henceforth the Federal Reserve, a private entity governed by a Board of Governors elected by no one, many of whom are creatures of the banking industry, wrested the power to issue money from the accountable public domain. Look at the dollar bill in your pocket. At the top it says “Federal Reserve Note.”

Jefferson wrote:

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered..”

Enter Bernie Sanders. Although in his youth a socialist idealist, the playbook he now quotes from was pioneered by trust-busting Republican Teddy Roosevelt, and of all people, Ronald Reagan, who broke up AT&T into the “Baby Bells” in order to usher competition into the telecommunications market. It is this competition that we now have to thank for the drop in telephone rates and the evolution of the cellphone industry. When AT&T owned all the wires, no other company could compete. When the government mandated that other companies, mostly entrepreneurial ventures, be allowed to connect to AT&T switches, entire industries were born. There are some of us old enough to remember waiting until 9 o’clock to call your parents on a Sunday night in college, because that is when the long distance rates dropped. Now with cellphones, no one pays for long distance. It is one of the few bright spots in an otherwise criminal, death-dealing administration, if you were a Nicaraguan or Salvadoran peasant.

Thus Sanders, a student and practitioner of governance all his life, is speaking from solid precedent when he vows to break up the biggest banks, who push their hooves to the front of the trough whenever they demand a bailout, to stave off the catastrophic consequences of them failing. There is another word for this type of arrangement. It is called blackmail. When ordinary people practice it, they can go to jail. When big banks practice it, they go to Monte Carlo.

Literally. What is little noted is that, since the sub-prime crisis, big bank behavior in the “derivatives” market has been atrocious. The long and the short of derivatives is that they are bets, i.e. legalized gambling. But the stakes make Las Vegas look like penny ante poker.

Since the bank bailouts of 2008, the banks which most needed bailing out have only gotten bigger, and now account for approximately 67 percent of all assets in our financial system. That’s about 40% more than during the sub-prime crisis. According to Fortune magazine, by every measure, the biggest banks are now bigger than ever.

Not only have they gotten bigger, they are more at risk than ever of losing everything if the derivatives market goes south, and they lose all their bets. Of course when someone loses a bet, someone has to win, and gets paid. So who gets paid? Since the financial institutions themselves are the ones issuing these risky instruments, they pay themselves.

It’s beautiful. If I win I win, and if I lose I win. Who loses is the American taxpayer.

Forbes reports:

“...the total notional amount of derivatives held by U.S. commercial banks and savings associations, as of 12/31/12, was a staggering $223 trillion, while the four largest U.S. banks shown above hold 93% of these contracts.”

Translation: The four biggest “too big to fail” banks are now on the hook for about $200 trillion if their bets go bad, as they did in the 2008 sub-prime crisis. But the amounts make the sub-prime crisis pale in comparison. The gross national product of the U.S. is about $18 trillion.

What can be done as we teeter on the edge? First, what Bernie Sanders proposes. Break up the banks that got us into this predicament in the first place, who operated under the entitlement mentality that, no matter how risky their behavior, the taxpayer would always have no choice but to bail them out because they are “too big to fail.” Next, were they to fail, extend unemployment benefits to a year, possibly two, to protect workers whose jobs will be lost in the ensuing economic chaos. Pay off any affected depositors under the FDIC insurance rules, and let the market do its work, punishing badly run banks which will be acquired by better businessmen at pennies on the dollar.

Markets may be thrown into chaos, but that doesn’t mean people have to starve.

Alternatively, the Swedish model could be followed whereby the government takes shares from banks in exchange for bailouts, in essence buying out the bank. American knee-jerk reaction against such socialist-sounding measures might make this too politically unpalatable, so letting the banks go under while protecting millions of laid-off workers might be the better option.

The scenario absent forward thinkers like Sanders is the most worrisome. In this scenario, the banks know full well there is not enough money in the world to bail them out, so they will dictate what it will take for them to not go under. This will be an extraordinary number mandating the slashing of all social programs, all other national investment, reducing the country to a form of debt peonage in which workers toil to pay what the banks say they need. This will surely mean social unrest, but, since 9/11, many laws have been passed which will make this easier to deal with. Police forces have been militarized, and the Posse Comitatus strictures against using the US military in domestic law enforcement have been erased. Technology such as surveillance cameras and NSA eavesdropping are ubiquitous and turned inward. Everything is in place.

Sanders has done the country a service which few as yet may realize. Breaking the back of the big banks does not stop with the economic benefits. It is these same powers which have for so long contributed disproportionately to campaigns and candidates, and held our election system hostage. Restoring the Congress to the people means breaking the hold of money over the Congress. And, as Jefferson would have well understood, breaking the hold of the money power starts with breaking up the big banks.
 
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I'm figuring TJ only had problems Hamilton, the Bank of the USA AKA National Central Banks AKA Bank of England AKA Rothschild bank.

I'm betting Bernie truly loves the Fed AKA Rothschild bank.
 
I'm figuring TJ only had problems Hamilton, the Bank of the USA AKA National Central Banks AKA Bank of England AKA Rothschild bank.

I'm betting Bernie truly loves the Fed AKA Rothschild bank.

Is that why the Rothjschild media has been working overtime to sink his candidacy? A man is known by his enemies.
 
I wish Jefferson had said that quote, but according to snopes, that is not the case. We in the liberty movement really should stop mis-quoting him.

From: http://www.snopes.com/quotes/jefferson/banks.asp

I received this quote in an email and am trying to find out if is truly a quote by Thomas Jefferson:

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered."


Variations: Some versions of this quotation end with the following lines:

"We are completely saddled and bridled, and the bank is so firmly mounted on us that we must go where they ill guide. The dominion which the banking institutions have obtained over the minds of our citizens ... must be broken, or it will break us."

Origins: One of the "Rules of Misquotation" outlined by Ralph Keyes in his 1992 book on that subject is that axiom that "Famous dead people make excellent commentators on current events." Given the fear and uncertainty engendered by the current economic situation, and the disgruntlement expressed by many Americans at the thought of providing taxpayer-funded government bailouts to financial institutions and other large corporate entities (such as the auto industry), it was only a matter of time until someone trotted out a quotation (apocryphal or otherwise) from a respected, long-dead figure demonstrating that this whole economic mess was both predictable and inevitable. And one could hardly find a more hallowed figure in U.S. history than Thomas Jefferson to deliver this message, warning us from across the centuries that predatory banks and corporations would eventually impoverish us all.

Although Jefferson certainly expressed disdain and mistrust of banking institutions and paper currency on many occasions, this particular quotation bears all the hallmarks of being a retroquote — "words placed posthumously in the mouth of a well-known dead person":

No documentation ties it to its putative originator.

Its earliest known reference did not appear until long after the death of its supposed originator.

Multiple sources are claimed for its origins.

Contextual information indicates the words are of more recent origin than claimed.

According to the Jefferson Encyclopedia, the earliest printed reference to this quotation found so far appeared in a 1937 Congressional subcommittee report, which means there is no known record of these words having been attached to Jefferson's name until well more than a century after his death (1826). And even
though this quotation has bedeviled historians for several decades now, no one has yet turned up any Jeffersonian speeches or writings or other documentation demonstrating that Thomas Jefferson ever uttered or wrote these words.

This quotation is commonly cited as originating with one of several sources, primarily an 1802 letter to Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin, an 1809 publication entitled The Debate Over the Recharter of the Bank Bill, and a 1 January 1815 letter to James Monroe. However, no such words appear in any extant correspondence between Jefferson and Albert Gallatin, no publication entitled The Debate Over the Recharter of the Bank Bill has yet been found, and Jefferson's 1 January 1815 letter to James Monroe, although it touches on the subject of banks and paper money in its second paragraph, does not include anything resembling the quotation in question.

In addition to the lack of documentation, an entry in Respectfully Quoted: A Dictionary of Quotations labels this quotation as "obviously spurious" for contextual reasons, noting that the Oxford English Dictionary's (OED) earliest citation for the word "deflation" (as related to currency) dates only to 1920. (The OED's earliest citation for the word "inflation" used in a financial sense dates to 1838, which means that usage might have been known during Jefferson's lifetime.)

A couple of similar statements have likewise been attributed to Jefferson and sometimes appended to the quotation in question: "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies" and "The issuing power [of money] should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs." Although these statements likewise lack documentation establishing them as authentically Jeffersonian, the former is a reasonably close paraphrase of the closing sentence in Jefferson's 28 May 1816 letter to John Taylor:

And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale.


The latter statement is both undocumented and not in accordance what Jefferson wrote in a 24 June 1813 letter to John Wayles Eppes:

But while this is going on, another measure should be pressed, to recover ultimately our fight to the circulation. The States should be applied to, to transfer the right of issuing circulating paper to Congress exclusively, in perpetuum, if possible, but during the war at least, with a saving of charter rights. I believe that every State west and South of Connecticut river, except Delaware, would immediately do it.
 
I read an interview somewhere and he was asked, "where would his authority come from.". His answer was the," Federal Reserve.".

Yeah. He is a real TJ. :rolleyes:
 
danda writes: I wish Jefferson had said that quote, but according to snopes, that is not the case. We in the liberty movement really should stop mis-quoting him.


...people have been passing around wrongly-attributed 'money quotes' (like this 'jefferson quote') for a long time!...btw, the people in 'the liberty movement' continue to get 'the [stinking] money thing' wrong...'the liberty
:rolleyes: movement' is just as bad or worse than the stinking 'liberals' at whom they hiss as to monetary ignorance..monetary ignoramuses all.. :o

...btw, many of these 'money quotes' portray some truth..yet this is thoroughly tarnished by false attributions of authorship...any guesses as to who might benefit by this 'pollution of $cholarship?' ;)
 
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Bernie would socialize the bank. Not a free market solution.

:cool:

...i'd rather having 'a socialist bank' (controlling monetary creation/issuance) than the stinking 'fascist bank' the rest of the stinking republicrats apparently favor...EVERY STINKING ONE OF THEM!.... :mad:

"...the right to coin money and issue money is a function of government. We believe it. We believe it is a part of sovereignty and can no more with safety be delegated to private individuals than can the power to make penal statutes or levy laws for taxation." (attributed to william jennings bryan)
 
In my opinion, the proposed changes are attacking a symptom, not the cause. The problem of these banks is not that they exist, it's their connections to and influence with government.
 
"The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the people versus the banks." -- Lord Acton
 
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