Iranians are just like us

[A Son of Liberty]

I agree .Its like when Bob scheifer tried to make it appear that Ron was saying you and i are responsible for the 9/11 attacks,well no .The policies are government has in place encouraged them to happen.J

ust like the majority of Iranians arent consumed with a vengeful hatred towards Israel and the US.There just like you and me in that they dont care about what other countries do ,they just want to be left alone and enjoy there lives with there friends and families.

You mean they don't all sit around day-and-night dreaming of ways to kill, and to end Western Civilization?

You're not watching enough Beck, apparently.

The ones in power that make the rules are the monsters,just like here.

:thumbs:

I hate that *I* am lumped in with the terrorists in DC by folks around the world... I'm sure not going to make that mistake myself.

+rep to you!

 

[WilliamC]

It's only the amoral psychopath elites who tend to gravitate towards positions of power in all countries who are different from 'normal' people who just want to be left alone to concentrate on their families, jobs, and personal interests.

 

[oyarde]

It's only the amoral psychopath elites who tend to gravitate towards positions of power in all countries who are different from 'normal' people who just want to be left alone to concentrate on their families, jobs, and personal interests.

Looks that way .

 

[oyarde]

You're making the mistake of conflating their government with the people.

Maybe , and I try to take that into consideration . I do however , notice that the people accept these acts with little to say , which leads me to think , if THEY were the govt , things may remain the same ...

 

[PastaRocket848]

oh no no no. iranian citizens are just like american citizens, and want all of the same things. sure, some of them have a deep-seeded hatred for american foreign policy. wouldn't you if your kid needed medicine and american sanctions kept him from getting it? there is no doubt that their hatred of our POLICY is justified. we've been the aggressor in the region for decades.

you cannot, however, say "i disagree with their leadership and how they handle their own domestic issues, so each and every iranian citizen is 'not like me'". no. their government is not like you. if someone from europe were to suggest the same about us, they'd call you a warmonger. of course you are not, your government is.

no need to paint with such a wide brush.

 

[oyarde]

oh no no no. iranian citizens are just like american citizens, and want all of the same things. sure, some of them have a deep-seeded hatred for american foreign policy. wouldn't you if your kid needed medicine and american sanctions kept him from getting it? there is no doubt that their hatred of our POLICY is justified. we've been the aggressor in the region for decades.

you cannot, however, say "i disagree with their leadership and how they handle their own domestic issues, so each and every iranian citizen is 'not like me'". no. their government is not like you. if someone from europe were to suggest the same about us, they'd call you a warmonger. of course you are not, your government is.

no need to paint with such a wide brush.

I agree my govt are war mongers . I highly doubt , however , that where I live , any govt agency could bulldoze a cemetery of a peaceful religion and that would be tolerated by other citizens of any religion....

 

[Acala]

Try googling " Bahaa'i cemetery in Yazd , Iran " , somewhere , there should be a nice photo of one of the cemeteries that was bulldozed. You probably cannot find any lists though of the homes they ransack , the propert they seize and demolish . Mahmoud may claim to believe in God , but he is confused .

Thank God we live in a land where the government never ransacks peaceful people's homes, confiscates their property, or destroys it or, for that matter, kills them simply because they don't submit with sufficient alacrity. /bitter sarcasm off

 

[Acala]

Maybe , and I try to take that into consideration . I do however , notice that the people accept these acts with little to say , which leads me to think , if THEY were the govt , things may remain the same ...

When was the last time you stood in between DEA and someone's home? I guess that means you SUPPORT their tactics?

 

[Johnny Appleseed]

More chance of getting killed by someone down the block than by someone halfway around the world...

Iranians know how to "house party" ...public life is so restrictive they balance it out by letting loose at home I think.

We should as a goodwill mission in the name of the Good Dr have an open forum with some average Joe Iranians.

The pursuit of liberty is a human endeavor not just an American one...

 

[PastaRocket848]

I agree my govt are war mongers . I highly doubt , however , that where I live , any govt agency could bulldoze a cemetery of a peaceful religion and that would be tolerated by other citizens of any religion....

you have more faith than you should... remember the trail of tears? japanese internment camps? hiroshima? don't give them too much credit.

 

[Pericles]

It's only the amoral psychopath elites who tend to gravitate towards positions of power in all countries who are different from 'normal' people who just want to be left alone to concentrate on their families, jobs, and personal interests.

Yep - just like us.

 

[Philhelm]

I was under the impression that Asians didn't have souls. /s

 

[Savoyard]

I was under the impression that Asians didn't have souls. /s

Actual genetics show that Iranians are actually much closer to Europeans, then say Arabs or Asians.

 

[seapilot]

Yes , they are human beings , but , no , they are not like me . The judiciary there executes people for drugs. I consider that barbaric ...

More like Newt Gingrich eh>?

 

[oyarde]

The Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Iran , states in Article Two that , Leadership shall continue the revolution of Islam , whatever that means , Article Two goes on to say that oppression in any form is not acceptable . Article Three states that , Governance will end all forms of undesirable discrimination. I guess that means , desirable discrimination is ok to pursue ? I have no idea , moving on , The Islamic Scholars of Iran say they are not Communists .Chapter 4 , Articles 44 states that " all large scale and mother industries , foreign trade , major minerals , banking , insurance , power generation , dams , and large scale irrigation networks , radio and telivision , post , telegraph and telephone services , aviation , shipping , roads , railroads and the like" are entirely owned by the government.

 

[oyarde]

I figure " and the like " means whatever they wish it to be ...

 

[oyarde]

I imagine , it is possible to the devout Twelvers , that " continuing the revolution " means a worldwide caliphate where many more will be treated as the Baha'i . Anyway , I had no intention of disturbing or offending anyone , I made no statement other than , they are not the same as I .

 

[IBleedNavyAndOrange]

I figure " and the like " means whatever they wish it to be ...

And what about "general welfare" and "interstate commerce?"

I agree my govt are war mongers . I highly doubt , however , that where I live , any govt agency could bulldoze a cemetery of a peaceful religion and that would be tolerated by other citizens of any religion....

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-M...re-Expansion-Stalled-by-St-Johannes-Cemetery/

Google cemetary vandalism

 

[dannno]

I imagine , it is possible to the devout Twelvers , that " continuing the revolution " means a worldwide caliphate where many more will be treated as the Baha'i . Anyway , I had no intention of disturbing or offending anyone , I made no statement other than , they are not the same as I .

Actually a lot of Iranians, especially those in more urban settings really like American culture. They don't like our foreign policy.

Again like another poster said, I don't see you standing in the way of the DEA raiding sick people's homes for their medicine. I don't see you in the way of our military and sanctions killing millions of innocent people.

They are not different than us, period. I know this because I've known people personally from Iran. You can't blame the sadistic policies of government on the individual citizens no matter how sadistic they seem. Our government has done FAR worse than Iran.

 

[libertyjam]

I agree with the Op sentiments, I would just like to know where this figure of 30,000 nuclear weapons on Cuba came from? I seriously doubt Dr.P would be that far off, so is this a direct quote and where can I find it?