Iran cuts off oil exports to France!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

I've been hearing that Israel is mere months away from bombing Iran for several years now. FUD, SSDD.


Except this time, I believe it's more than FUD. You starve a country enough and eventually they like a starving pet will attack. Iran and Israel are already making shadowy moves on each other with the assassination and the assassination attempts. This shit is like one big game of risk.
 
I agree with you in hoping for a Paul presidency, but will he be enough to stop the inevitable, Can he get elected before WW3 breaks out? Well, if anyone here reads the bible, the bible does say something along the lines of "When Damascus falls, the end of days will be here" -- No matter how we look at it, if we intervene in Syria and take out Damascus, it's going to throw the world into WW3 and if we invade Iran, it's going to throw the world into WW3. There is not stopping this, makes me wonder how long before they re-implement the draft.

Well there's one thing for certain - if the US invades Syria, they will need to deploy a lot of troops to protect Israel and potentially Saudi oil fields. They will be permanent deployments, so if the US is to invade Iran after invading Syria, they will NEED the draft.

Luckily that's the problem for the government though. They can't invade Iran without taking out Syria first, but they can't invade Iran after Syria without a draft, which is political suicide.

Dark times ahead without Dr. Paul.
 
The last thing Israel wants is self-destruction, and that's what they can expect if they go it alone.

If they attack Iran even with our help they are doomed. Iran will burn Tel-Aviv to the ground with fuel air bombs. The people pushing for this war either think Israel is invincible or know very well this will start WW3 and the total destruction of Israel. Israel is not invincible and will be wiped out if they attack Iran.
 
Will people in America support a war with Iran? I cant see any Obama supporters or even some neo-cons supporting it. Things are so backwards. A possibility of a draft. You got to be kidding
 
If they attack Iran even with our help they are doomed. Iran will burn Tel-Aviv to the ground with fuel air bombs. The people pushing for this war either think Israel is invincible or know very well this will start WW3 and the total destruction of Israel. Israel is not invincible and will be wiped out if they attack Iran.


Israel thinks it's invincible, because of the saying "they are god's people"
 
Will people in America support a war with Iran? I cant see any Obama supporters or even some neo-cons supporting it. Things are so backwards. A possibility of a draft. You got to be kidding


With enough fear mongering the idiots in America, would support a war with China. We supported war with Iraq because of fear mongering, it's going to happen again.
 
Except this time, I believe it's more than FUD. You starve a country enough and eventually they like a starving pet will attack. Iran and Israel are already making shadowy moves on each other with the assassination and the assassination attempts. This shit is like one big game of risk.

You believe the story that Iran was trying to assassinate some ambassador here in the US?
I sure don't. That story had so many holes in it that it was easy to see that it was a total BS. Iran doesn't want war and will not make the first hostile move, but the press will lie about it and say they did no matter what the truth of the matter is.
 
If they attack Iran even with our help they are doomed. Iran will burn Tel-Aviv to the ground with fuel air bombs. The people pushing for this war either think Israel is invincible or know very well this will start WW3 and the total destruction of Israel. Israel is not invincible and will be wiped out if they attack Iran.

Of course Israel will fall eventually. It never stood a chance. Israel will be more concerned about Syria and Egypt than Iran. Iran would not attack Israel if there were US troops stationed there. The US will undoubtedly deploy assets to Israel to help, at least until attacks become completely overwhelming.

The US is more concerned over China and Russia now. That's why I said that the US has a limit to how much it will support Israel. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the relationship between Israel and the west completely breaks down over its continued hostile actions towards Iran.
 
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Will people in America support a war with Iran? I cant see any Obama supporters or even some neo-cons supporting it. Things are so backwards. A possibility of a draft. You got to be kidding

Just wait until a few of our carriers are sunk in the Persian Gulf. Every last idiot in this country will be chomping at the bit to start another war, 'liberals' included.
 
Great analysis here... http://www.zerohedge.com/news/iran-stops-oil-sales-british-french-companies

The geopolitical game theory escalates once again, as Iran, which four days ago halted exports to peripheral European countries took it up a notch, and has as of this morning halted sales to British and French companies. Reuters reports:"Iran has stopped selling crude to British and French companies, the oil ministry said on Sunday, in a retaliatory measure against fresh EU sanctions on the Islamic state's lifeblood, oil. "Exporting crude to British and French companies has been stopped ... we will sell our oil to new customers," spokesman Alireza Nikzad was quoted as saying by the ministry of petroleum website." Here is the actual statement from MOP.ir. As a reminder, on January 27 we said how Iran was about to "Turn Embargo Tables: To Pass Law Halting All Crude Exports To Europe."And so it has - now, the relentless media campaign about China isolating Iran in response to American demands has to be respun: recall that in early February Reuters told us that " China will halve its crude oil imports from Iran in March compared to average monthly purchases a year ago, as a dispute over payments and prices stretches into a third month, oil industry sources involved in the deals said on Monday." Apparently that may not have been the case, as there is no way Iran would have escalated as far as it has unless it had replacement buyers of one third of its crude. Incidentally, this is just as we predicted in "A Very Different Take On The "Iran Barters Gold For Food" Story."

The end result of this senseless gambit by the west: Europe has less oil, the Saudi fable that it has endless excess suplies is about the be seriously tested, China has just expanded a key crude supply route, and Russia is grinning through it all as Brent prices are about to spike. Iran didn't invent chess for nothing.

This is what we cautioned in early February:

we humbly submit that instead of taking the Reuters article at face value, and one may certainly do that, what may instead be happening as Iran migrates to a non-dollar based international trade system is the testing of the waters of a non-USD regime, more importantly, one quietly encourage by China, who is a very complicit participant in the transition to a world in which the US Dollar suddenly finds itself irrelevant. Whether replaced by gold, or a currency backed by a basket of hard assets (the CNY?) we don't know. However, we know one thing: China needs Iran's crude, which at last check was among the world's top 5 oil producers, and had the world's third largest proven oil reserves after Saudi Arabia and Canada, and despite media reports that it is actively looking for crude import alternatives, we would allege that this is nothing but purposeful disinformation. After all why would China comply with US demands for an enhanced Iranian embargo? The whole point of China's foreign policy to date has been to counteract US pushes and provocations abroad without fail. Why should it make an exception now. Frankly, we don't buy it.

Sure enough, ten days later neither does the world.

More from Reuters:

Industry sources told Reuters on Feb. 16 that Iran's top oil buyers in Europe were making substantial cuts in supply months in advance of European Union sanctions, reducing flows to the continent in March by more than a third - or over 300,000 barrels daily.

France's Total has already stopped buying Iran's crude, which is subject to fresh EU embargoes. Market sources said Royal Dutch Shell has scaled back sharply.

Among European nations, debt-ridden Greece is most exposed to Iranian oil disruption.

Motor Oil Hellas of Greece was thought to have cut out Iranian crude altogether and compatriot Hellenic Petroleum along with Spain's Cepsa and Repsol were curbing imports from Iran.

As we tweeted a few days ago, "Greece may be broke buit at least it has no oil." Win-win. Er... wait.

Needless to say, it is now time for Saudi Arabia to step up or shut up. And if many are correct, stripping away all the posturing about Saudi's near infinite excess supplies, may reveal a very ugly picture. And a $10 spike in brent in short order.

Saudi Arabia says it is prepared to supply extra oil either by topping up existing term contracts or by making rare spot market sales. Iran has criticised Riyadh for the offer.

Finally, here is why it is quite obvious that China has stepped up:

Iran said the cut will have no impact on its crude sales, warning that any sanctions on its oil will raise international crude prices.

Brent crude oil prices were up $1 a barrel to $118.35 shortly after Iran's state media announced last week that Tehran had cut oil exports to six European states. The report was denied shortly afterwards by Iranian officials.

"We have our own customers ... The replacements for these companies have been considered by Iran," Nikzad said.

Surely, when it comes to shooting itself in the foot, Europe truly has no equal.
 
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EU: "Iran, if you don't stop your nuclear program, all of Europe will stop buying your oil"
Iran: "Fine, I'll just stop selling you my oil"
EU: "WTF!!!! THIS IS AN ACT OF WAR!"

The hypocrisy being:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4713398.stm
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FRANCE
Working nuclear reactors 59
Reactors decommissioned/out of use 11
New reactors planned/under construction 1
Electricity generated (net billion kiloWatt hours (kWh)) 419
Proportion of electricity from nuclear power 77%

France has been Europe's most enthusiastic devotee of nuclear power, constructing dozens of reactors since the 1970s oil crises spurred on its desire for energy independence. It has become the world's biggest net exporter of electricity, and is also a major exporter of nuclear technology.

France began a public debate in 2003 on future energy policy, in response to a "strong demand from the French people". Two years later, the state power company EDF approved plans for the construction of a new European Pressurised Reactor (EPR), or improved third-generation plant, at Flamanville in Normandy. The project, which is intended as a prototype for up to 40 others of similar design, is expected to be completed in late 2012.

In 2006, the government also announced the start of the design process for a prototype fourth-generation, sodium-cooled fast reactor, with the aim of having the technology ready for industrial deployment and export after 2035-40.
 
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/p...ors_call_for_no_containment_strategy_for_iran

Lieberman emphasized that he doesn't want to foreclose diplomatic options, but said that if Obama decided to attack Iran's nuclear facilities, he would have strong bipartisan support in Congress.

"I know that containment might have been viable for the Soviet Union during the Cold War, but it's not going to work with the current fanatical Islamist regime in Tehran," said Lieberman, referring to Iran's sponsorship of international terrorism, its record of proliferation, and its statements calling for the destruction of Israel. He called containment of a nuclear Iran a "dangerous and deadly illusion."

"but"-- presents a contrast or exception.

*sigh*

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"This is a deadly serious moment," said Coons. "We hope for a peaceful, diplomatic resolution, but we are determined to stop Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapons capability."

"but" can also sometimes be replaced with "on the contrary"... "we hope for a peaceful, diplomatic resolution, on the contrary, we are determined to stop Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapons capability." <-- this change is a imho moment of clarity.
 
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If they attack Iran even with our help they are doomed. Iran will burn Tel-Aviv to the ground with fuel air bombs. The people pushing for this war either think Israel is invincible or know very well this will start WW3 and the total destruction of Israel. Israel is not invincible and will be wiped out if they attack Iran.
Would it be strange to believe certain Christians want this to occur? Their support for Israel only exists so that it can be destroyed?
 
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