Investing with Euro Pacific / Peter Schiff

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Does anybody have any actual experience with Euro Pacific? Do they have 401k instruments? What's the quality of the average advisor? What's their cut?

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Since no-one has replied to you I'll give you my two cents. I have not invested with him. I nearly did and have talked to his employee stockbrokers. I'll doubt you speak to Peter unless your investing a hell of a lot of money.

If your looking to invest in Peter by following his economic beliefs I don't think it's worth paying is quite expensive fees. Just buy silver, gold, some foreign currency, hard assets sugar, rice

But if you don't know what your doing or need help picking stocks and whatnot then yeah I think he'd be perfect for that, give the europac guys a call.

But I definitely would like to see some portfolio results from anyone here who's invested with him...
 
I've got a couple 401ks that I'm going to have to deal with in a year or so, and I'm trying to decide if I'm going to do all that myself or rely on an expert for some assistance. There are a number of financial considerations I need schooling in before I decide to handle it alone. It's more funds than I want to put into hard assets, in any case.
 
I'm a pretty annoyed Europac customer right now. You can see the story of why I'm annoyed here:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=263560

To follow up on that thread, they never responded to the message sent through their comments form that claims they'll get back to you shortly. Peter responded when I emailed him, but he never offered to remedy anything or showed any concern about the damages caused by their mistakes. I didn't follow up with him either, so it is possible I could have done more. Also, despite this enormous change in policy, I have not received any written (or emailed) information on the new policy of Europac. Nothing at all. It is a huge policy change that negatively impacts a large number of their customers, so that they don't contact their customers in any formalized way is a big concern of mine. Had the policy been in place when I signed up, I probably would not have opened an account with them.

I think their fees are very high. Their fees made sense when they were helping you manage your portfolio and making recommendations of what to buy and when to sell, but that has changed. They have set a threshold (I think around 100k, but I'm not sure) where they will no longer help you with those things, so the fees don't make as much sense. Instead they try to force the smaller folks into their mutual funds where the fees are even higher and you have to pay annual fees on your holdings, whereas before there were no such fees.

Despite all this if I compare the total amount of cash I put in since I opened the account (about 20 months ago, I think) it works out to being worth about 30% more now. That is 30% with all fees being taken out, except the fees that would be imposed for selling and removing cash. I like their strategy, and I like their picks. I am very worried and bothered by the nonsense I've gone through with forced sales and the scraping of a big chunk of my account away in unneeded fees that in no way benefited me. I am even more bothered by their lack of concern or reaction. I feel like their response has been very unprofessional.

Personally, I am keeping my account open for the time being. I expect the financial turbulence to cause it to gain worth. I'm hesitant to add any more money. As for whether or not you should use them, I'd advise you to talk to a broker. If you have a substantial amount of money so that they would be willing to advise you on individual picks, it may be worth their fees. With smaller amounts it still may be worth it, but it may be more cost effective to do things on your own. You probably wouldn't be able to get as diversified on foreign markets as their funds, but you wouldn't have to pay the fees either. You have to decide what is better. I'd say call a broker up. Talk to them. Don't agree to anything. Take some time to think about it and then decide. I'll also add that prior to my little incident with them I had nothing but good things to say. They were always very good to deal with, easy to get in touch with, friendly, etc. The performance of their picks always has been decent (at least so far.) I'm not sure if the incident I've gone through should be interpreted as a fluke or as a warning sign.

I hope that more Europac customers will post their experiences here as well. I'd be very interested to hear.

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Does anybody have any actual experience with Euro Pacific? Do they have 401k instruments? What's the quality of the average advisor? What's their cut?

Forgot to answer your questions:

I'm pretty sure they offer 401k and IRA type things. I don't have that style of account. Call them up and they could answer those questions pretty easily.

I've had two different brokers in my time there. They've both been friendly and helpful and very willing to talk about any concerns.

Their cut varies based on amounts. If you call them up they'll give you the exact rates. The mutual funds have their own rates, so definitely remember to take that into account if you go that route.
 
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they have high fees. no point in using them unless you have a ton of money and don't want to worry about your investments.
 
yea like everyone said, they do have high fees. he uses the cover of "regulations" but really to charge of an insane fee, even the other small guys don't charge that much. so if your worried like most of us, just listen to his radio show, and just invest yourself.
 
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To be fair a more prudent firm must charge more fees since they are not playing in the high speculation field the kinda commissions and revenue a small firm would achieve from churning apple in your account won't offset smaller fees.

A better bank and broker will make sense that it'll charge more, but unless you have a bit of money to put in then it might be better to open a etrade/scottrade account and just put it into etfs till ou have the capital to benefit from an Investment Advisor like EuroPac although i don't think they take small customers anymore anyways

I've talked about how deposit insurance and other regs make it impossible to runa prudent firm, since all the riskier firms can much easier take the risk in the market to undercut you especially since you won't pay attention to such behavior cause of deposit insurance.
 
that link is not right this is the right link http://thewinterprofit.com/?ref=eejiro12

Nice sneaking a referral URL in there. That site looks like a scam. I can't say for sure what it is since they provide no real details. They claim that you gain 8% a day on your investments. They have a maximum investment of $5000. They tell you nothing about what they invest in. They claim to have a team of investment experts, but they don't name a single one. And on top of that a guy with 6 posts (no offense) is coming to the forums here and posting sleazy referral URLs to this sleazy looking site. I would stay far away from that.
 
OK, I heard of THX 1138.

But what is the meaning behind thx1149?
 
Does anybody have any actual experience with Euro Pacific? Do they have 401k instruments? What's the quality of the average advisor? What's their cut?

etc.

etc.

etc.

I have a fairly small account with them, divided between their China and Emerging Markets mutual funds. Their fees are a bit high but I like Peter's style and investing philosophy.
 
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