Into the Wolves Den I go for Christmas Eve Party...

[coastie]

The in-laws, all Fox news disciples. Wife is wearing her RP shirt, I will be wearing mine and my RP beanie, signs are loaded into the car already. Her dad has already been convined n=by me that he will be voting for Rp, just gotta work on the rest of them. "Their" candidate dropped out already(Cain).


Wish me luck, I'll need it.:o

 

[z9000]

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[coastie]

Good luck man, I know what it's like. I gave my neocon father a RP constitution yesterday and he said he was voting for RP for my sake.

Yep-my dad came to me and said he and his wife voting for him! 20 year AF 'Nam, First Gulf War, Bosnia/Kosovo vet...

In-laws are all 'Nam vets.


ETA: My dad is not someone who researches on his own or uses the internet for anything other than to buy guns and ammo, so he made this decision purely on what he had seen at the debates.

 

[jsem]

Good luck

 

[Dorfsmith]

Good luck. I had an early Christmas a couple weeks ago with my wife's family. Same kind of situation. Overall it went well. We gave them autographed Tom Woods books for Christmas.

 

[rockandrollsouls]

I honestly feel it's bad taste to make a Christmas party politically charged like that. If someone "ambushed" me like that I probably wouldn't support their guy.

 

[Travlyr]

I honestly feel it's bad taste to make a Christmas party politically charged like that. If someone "ambushed" me like that I probably wouldn't support their guy.

Beware of these Obama supporters: ProBlue33, newbitech, libertarian4321, Kade, Electronicmajji, SeanEdwards,

That's the problem today. Nobody wants to be honest.

BTW.. your signature line is dishonest, inappropriate, and against forum guidelines.

 

[Philosophy_of_Politics]

Honestly, go for it.

At this rate, we'll be lucky to celebrate Christmas next year. Unless of course, Ron Paul wins.

 

[InTradePro]

The in-laws, all Fox news disciples. Wife is wearing her RP shirt, I will be wearing mine and my RP beanie, signs are loaded into the car already. Her dad has already been convined n=by me that he will be voting for Rp, just gotta work on the rest of them. "Their" candidate dropped out already(Cain).


Wish me luck, I'll need it.:o

Good sign they where supporting Cain.
Wouldn't be to pushy, nice just to wear the shirt and see if it sparks conversation. No on likes to have anything pushed at them. So be friendly and humble like Dr Paul.

 

[rockandrollsouls]

It's my personal opinion Christmas is not the appropriate forum to engage in political debate.

Also, fuck yourself. All of those members dropped and supported Obama.

That's the problem today. Nobody wants to be honest.

BTW.. your signature line is dishonest, inappropriate, and against forum guidelines.

 

[specsaregood]

What a great idea. I'm gonna have to don my RP gear for tonights 7-fish dinner!

 

[mstrmac1]

Happens every year for me... Except this year I will have a little help.

 

[sailingaway]

Yeah, I have one of those to go to as well. I'll probably avoid politics, because it gets intense and gives bystanders indigestion, I suspect. They know where I stand, and we all know where my pro-Obama sister stands, regardless of facts.

 

[jcarcinogen]

Good sign they where supporting Cain.
So be friendly and humble like Dr Paul.

Good advice.

 

[rockandrollsouls]

Thank you. It's common decency and basic tact to make holidays with the family politics-free. No one's going to your Christmas party to argue about politics. Especially if you're walking into someone's house that isn't your own....it's disrespectful.

Yeah, I have one of those to go to as well. I'll probably avoid politics, because it gets intense and gives bystanders indigestion, I suspect. They know where I stand, and we all know where my pro-Obama sister stands, regardless of facts.

 

[coastie]

I honestly feel it's bad taste to make a Christmas party politically charged like that. If someone "ambushed" me like that I probably wouldn't support their guy.

Not ambushing anybody there, they are well aware of where I stand, and besides: I'll let them bring him up, someone always does when I wear the shirt.

Off I go now, I'll post back results later.

Especially if you're walking into someone's house that isn't your own....it's disrespectful.

Thanks for the advice on how to handle my own family.

 

[lx43]

Be brave my friend! lol

 

[surf]

politics and x-mas shouldn't really go together if there is any potential confrontation... but i plan on returning from mother's house with a few precinct caucus delegates for RP (perhaps as many as 6, and when you consider that each delegate can be the equivalent of 150 - 250 votes or more....) - and they all voted proudly for Obama - except for the one that voted for McWar.

merry christmas everyone.

 

[ghengis86]

The holidays are a great time to talk politics!! Just keep it light-hearted, smile and be humble and not condescending. Just drop mini truth bombs.

"I see your man Ron Paul is leading in Iowa. Too bad he's too old/will never win/has crazy foreign policy/etc."

"yeah, grandpa I saw that too. It's nice that conservatives have finally identified the one candidate that didn't support TARP/wants to bring our troops home to protect America's borders/wants to audit the fed/has been married 50+ years to the same women/is an Air Force veteran/gets the mist money from the military/etc/etc.

He's catching on, I'm telling ya!"

Just let the other people bring it up, they always do (at least with me). Keep it light and DO NOT try to argue; point out facts and leave it at that. It's great to see people trying to justify what they heard on Fox or from Rush when you point out the truth ("Iran wants to kill Jews? Then why do t they start with the 30,000 in their country, who can worship in synagogues, observe traditions and even get a seat in their version of parliament? Don't get me wrong, it ain't the holy land, but they aren't being massacred")

I just deflect and point out facts until the other person changes the subject. It usually only takes a few truth bombs before their mind enters Bad Command or File Name territory!

Good luck, keep it light, have fun and most of all remember that we're all on this planet together!

 

[Wickwire]

I ate dinner with the in-laws last night, both Fox News regurgitaters. I avoided the topic of politics for most of the meal, but, toward the end, my wife just couldn't help herself. She brought up Ron Paul, which triggered a stream of Fox News talking points from my father-in-law. First the newsletters, then "I like a lot of what he says, but shutting down all of our military bases and being an isolationist is just crazy", followed by, and this one was new to me, "he also has an enormous ego".

We were eating with them in order to reveal the name of our first child, so I didn't want to ruin the evening by schooling my father-in-law. However, I couldn't let the isolationist thing go. I said, "Based on Fox News' definition of isolationist, anyone who isn't bombing other countries and setting up military bases around the world is an isolationist nation. Ron Paul's policy is one of nonintervention.(you guys know the rest of that point...) Once I was finished, crickets... I followed up with, "Would you consider Canada to be isolationist? Switzerland?" There was a long pause and then, "Well, those newsletters really raise some questions." I set him straight on that as well. The "having a huge ego" line wasn't worth my time. If someone is so ill-informed that they think Ron Paul has a huge ego, then I've got better things to do.

The good news is that, as devoted as they are to their Fox News masters, both of my in-laws said that they would vote for Ron Paul if he won the Republican nomination. It bothers me though that the Fox News disciples seem more interested in being viewed as part of the "in crowd" than being informed. I thought that ended in high school, but my in-laws are 50+ years old. Now that they are supporting their 4th candidate in about as many months, you would think that they would start to question Fox News a little bit, but, sadly, they are as devoted as ever. Ron Paul definitely has more patience for people like this than I do.