Internet Rulers Screwing With The Revolution! Shuts Down Sabrin / Lew Rockwell?

[G-Wohl]

They're clearly using the term ISP. The caps really bring that out. Your explanation is just sideways covering for their incompetence.

Network Solutions can't 'shut down' Sabrin's website...

Their explanation is completely flawed at a technical level to the point that I have no idea what they're claiming actually happened.

Seconded. Internet Service Providers are specifically ISPs, and nothing more. Network Solutions is a domain registration and web hosting company. Anybody with any small amount of technical background (required to write this conspiracy theory) would know the difference, so clearly there's a lack of general technical knowledge in this theory.

 

[FreedomFighter8008]

Transfer Your Domains

I have VIP customer status with Network Solutions from when I had a Web development business. After hearing about this I transferred all of my domains to GoDaddy. I say boycott Network Solutions!

 

[FreedomFighter8008]

So does any technical savvy person actually know what happened? Did his host mess up, did the host's upstream provider get messed up, or maybe his name servers, or their upstream provider, or did his actual TLD record get messed up?

Basically what happened was they shut his web site down. Network Solution is not only a place where you can go and register a web site name; they also provide the machines where the files for your web site can be viewed by people when they type the web site name into their browser (hosting).

 

[JordanQ72]

Basically what happened was they shut his web site down. Network Solution is not only a place where you can go and register a web site name; they also provide the machines where the files for your web site can be viewed by people when they type the web site name into their browser (hosting).

While true, in this case, Network Solutions isn't the host of Mr Sabrin's websites though.

 

[Ron LOL]

I love Wikipedia in general, but I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE Wikipedia editors/admins. Oh-my-god, I couldn't possibly come up with a group of human beings I have a less favorable opinion of if I tried. And that includes 9/11 truthers and "neo-cons," both of which I intensely dislike.

 

[syborius]

Stopped reading right there.

I have no clue what happened, but I can guarantee whoever wrote that is completely clueless at the technical level required to answer that question as well.

You sir are SCUM!!! Many here realize you are scum, you've been exposed many times over as a disinformation agent/troll/scumbag, yet you still try and post here. #&$% you!!

 

[slamhead]

Go for it then. Prove me wrong. Explain how a TLD registrar can mess with a hosting company's servers.

Ah...by dropping or editing the TLD...thus eliminating any traffic going to the host. I suspect that Network Solutions go a bunch of spam complaints from Ron Paul contributors that have no idea who Sabrin is or why they were getting emails from him.

 

[the_bee]

Why Should I Choose Network Solutions Web Hosting

They're clearly using the term ISP. The caps really bring that out. Your explanation is just sideways covering for their incompetence.

Network Solutions can't 'shut down' Sabrin's website...

Their explanation is completely flawed at a technical level to the point that I have no idea what they're claiming actually happened.

This is from Network Solutions

"Why Should I Choose Network Solutions® Web Hosting
Our reliable Web Hosting services provide ample amounts of disk and e-mail storage, multiple FTP accounts, and the powerful tools you need to build and host Web sites."

Yes they do host and yes they can all they have to do is remove DNS from that website.

 

[jaybone]

Any website can be erased from existence by simply pulling it from DNS servers, which NS can easily do. Addresses are not really "www.whatever.com" they are numerical addresses such as 123.45.678 but DNS servers translate the language address to the numerical address so people do not have to remember 8 digits to get to google.
Mess with that DNS database and the site in question is easily disappeared.

 

[the_bee]

Thats what I said

Any website can be erased from existence by simply pulling it from DNS servers, which NS can easily do. Addresses are not really "www.whatever.com" they are numerical addresses such as 123.45.678 but DNS servers translate the language address to the numerical address so people do not have to remember 8 digits to get to google.
Mess with that DNS database and the site in question is easily disappeared.


[Quote:
Originally Posted by JordanQ72


They're clearly using the term ISP. The caps really bring that out. Your explanation is just sideways covering for their incompetence.

Network Solutions can't 'shut down' Sabrin's website...

Their explanation is completely flawed at a technical level to the point that I have no idea what they're claiming actually happened.



This is from Network Solutions

"Why Should I Choose Network Solutions® Web Hosting
Our reliable Web Hosting services provide ample amounts of disk and e-mail storage, multiple FTP accounts, and the powerful tools you need to build and host Web sites."

Yes they do host and yes they can all they have to do is remove DNS from that website./QUOTE]

 

[rpfan2008]

now this is too much

 

[Rhys]

I was just on his website. it's fine. this isn't true?

 

[kigol]

:ugh:

 

[Tdcci]

I was just on his website. it's fine. this isn't true?

It was taken down at the date of the moneybomb. It went up a day later. As a result, many people couldn't contribute.

 

[JordanQ72]

You sir are SCUM!!! Many here realize you are scum, you've been exposed many times over as a disinformation agent/troll/scumbag, yet you still try and post here. #&$% you!!

Well, good job responding against my argument. Oh wait, you're just bitter that I pointed out a hole in this theory so big you could drive a semi truck through it sideways...

Ah...by dropping or editing the TLD...thus eliminating any traffic going to the host.

Except neither of these happened. The TLD record was perfectly fine. His own host's NS servers screwed up.

Yes they do host

You CAN use them as a host, Mr. Sabrin wasn't. He was using Hostway.

So much stupidity and cluelessness, so little time.

I mean seriously. Some dipshit network admin who doesn't understand how CNAME record TTL propagation time works gets turned into some vast nutty democrat jew cfr conspiracy. Great job guys, always making us look sane and sensible as usual.

 

[sidster]

I have VIP customer status with Network Solutions from when I had a Web development business. After hearing about this I transferred all of my domains to GoDaddy. I say boycott Network Solutions!

Obviously you haven't read/heard about the godaddy's
shenanigans (clicky) ... more if you ask Google

 

[sidster]

btw... for those of you who don't get how Network Solutions or
Godaddy type companies (registrars) can "shutdown" their customers'
sites, here is a basic overview of how web-site names and IP addresses
work:

The registrar is a company where you register a domain name as yours.
They keep a database where they map a domain name to a set of DNS
servers. DNS here stands for Domain Name Server. A DNS server does
a name translation from a web-site name to an IP address. IP address is
a unique number that is given to each computer on a network (or the
internet).

So, for example, when you want to visit Ron Paul's presidential web-site
you type into your browsers address/URL field "ronpaul2008.com". The
browser will need to translate that name to an IP address. To do this the
browser will need to find out the DNS servers responsible for ronpaul2008.com
site. To do this it performs a query on the TLDs (Top Level Domain) servers.
This query will return the DNS servers for "ronpaul2008.com"

Example: This is query for Name Server (ns) for ronpaul2008.com

host -t ns ronpaul2008.com
ronpaul2008.com name server ns1.p03.dynect.net.
ronpaul2008.com name server ns2.p03.dynect.net.
ronpaul2008.com name server ns3.p03.dynect.net.
ronpaul2008.com name server ns4.p03.dynect.net.

So the above servers ns1 through ns3.p03.dynect.net are responsible
for ronpaul2008.com domain name. Now you can ask any one of these
servers what IP does ronpaul2008.com reside in:

$ host ronpaul2008.com ns3.p03.dynect.net
Using domain server:
Name: ns3.p03.dynect.net
Address: 208.78.71.3#53
Aliases: 

ronpaul2008.com has address 74.205.85.12
ronpaul2008.com mail is handled by 10 2008vaexc1.2008va-rpcamp.com.

So as you can see the IP address for ronpaul2008.com is 74.205.85.12.
Now your web-browser can access the Ron Paul Presidential web-page
and display the page to you.

So as you can see, the TLD has complete control over this "look-up"
process. So if Network Solutions was responsible for registering a
particular domain name, and they wanted to shut off any traffic to
that particular domain for whatever reason, all they would need to
do is remove from their database the entry for the domain's DNS
servers. After this, all queries for the domain's DNS servers would
return no value and so your web-browser wouldn't be able to proceed
to ask the DNS servers what the IP address is for the domain.


I hope this helps clarify things.

 

[JDouglasFisher]

There will be more news forthcoming from the campaign about this, I assure you...

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

my question is, why not just donate NOW instead of complaining about the site being shut down? Does the DATE itself really matter or is it those who donate that matter?

Network Solutions is a shady server from the beginning anyways. Of course someone who OWNS a company will try and mess with a possible competitor. Was this backsourced back to network solutions? As in they actually wrote about this and that OR was this from reported "internet news" with no real source backing.

All I saw so far was a possible site flopping on itself due to possibly too much activity that then got turned into a blatant trick to make sure and ruin this money bomb.

I try my best not to feed into these conspiracy theories or at least ALL OF THEM and try and sort the close to truth from the close to bullshit.

I just dont know what to think on this one unless it gets major news media which it should if this is true. This would be blatant sabotage to mess with a political drive that the owner him or herself was against and used his or her company to wait for the date THEN shut it down on that specific date.

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

It was taken down at the date of the moneybomb. It went up a day later. As a result, many people couldn't contribute.

once again, what was stopping them from donating the next day then? I still dont get the date issue and why 24 hours stops a person from donating?