Insiders think Ron Paul has a Chance

[pacelli]

oh FFS, are you pulling a ghemmy on us?


Very powerful insiders... they wouldn't happen to be aliased as "GoodSpirits" ....would they? These bastards will NOT affect the grassroots this season.

Cuz around this time during the last campaign this "insiders-support-RP" bullshit started. Then one of these individuals posted a message on the forums about billions, blah blah, and nothing happened. Got a lot of people's hopes up, and their hopes were deflated JUST as Ron posted his "the campaign is winding down" message.

Tell these insiders to NUT UP OR SHUT UP.

I hereby CHALLENGE them to prove their worthiness by donating $150,000 to revolutionpac by Friday, January 20.

How ya like them apples?

 

[jacmicwag]

Okay, check is in the mail.

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Then they're not a 'big-wig' to me. There are people out here in the trenches eatin' Ramen so they can buy a RP t-shirt. These people mean more to me than any millionaire sitting on their ass wondering speculating which way the wind will blow tomorrow.
Not jumpin' on your case man. Things like this piss me off more than they inspire.

Really. Pussies.

Sorry, but I can't really think of any other way to put it.

 

[tbone717]

Let me put a little perspective on this from personal experience. When I was in college 20+ years ago, I worked at a real exclusive country club outside of Philly. This was a big money club, the Annenbergs were members there (they have a school at the Univ of Penn named after the family) - so you get what I mean when I say big money club. The club was all limousine liberals - all voted Democrat, they had fundraisers at the club, etc.I worked in the clubhouse and would get the clubs and carts set up for the members and their guests. I also would work as a ranger and would be out and about on the course. Some of the members were very friendly with the staff, especially some of the younger guys.

Anyway, one of the members and I had a conversation one day about politics. He saw I was reading a book or paper or something (I can't remember how the conversation went) but he told me that there were a few closet Republicans at the club. He said they could never breath a word of it to their circle of friends and acquaintances, but he voted Republican all the time. Why couldn't he make that known? Because his entire business world was within that club - his suppliers, customers, lawyers, accountants, etc. He would pretty much be blackballed if he didn't show up at the Democrat fundraisers, press the flesh and write a check. Was he gutless? Maybe to a point but this guy (and others like him) had a business, a family, employees that relied on him.

So I am guessing that the closet Paul supporters are probably in the same boat. Maybe not to the degree that these club members were, but I am sure that some eyebrows might be raised if some of these folks pledge their allegiance to Paul. They are just possibly looking out for their own interests and the interests of others.

While we are intimately involved in this process, to most people it is only another election, and whether Paul wins or loses life will go on as normal for most. Most people, even those that support Paul, do not have the level of passion and desire for success that we share. Remember, we are the grassroots, the people that give up money and time to support the candidate. Most people do not share our level of commitment, nor should we expect them to. This is our sport, our hobby, our passion - not everyone's.

 

[Feelgood]

Tube, or it didnt happen.

 

[tmg19103]

Most people want to fit in and are image conscious. The rich supports he status quo in Washington because it benefits them, but no doubt some fell guilty and bad for the rest of us.

those are probably the ones being talked about here, but they can't "come out" or they will be shunned in their social circle of rich, elite types who benefit from the political system.

I at least give them credit for seeing what it awesome about RP. Most rich types are too selfish.

 

[BigByrd47119]

For some of these people to openly come out in support would ultimately render their endorsement useless as their affiliations quickly moved to shut them off redering their influence as nothing more than another Paul voter...

There may yet come a day when the tides change and to oppose Dr. Paul will become what supporting Paul is today.

 

[Txrose4ever]

There's another way to think about that. These people can INFLUENCE and may be able to do so better, at this point in time, behind the scenes. There will come a point, where others WILL stand up. It took courage for the 4 Senators in SC to stand with Dr. Paul. I am sure they will get some flak for that, but as the tide turns, I believe more and more people will step forward.

 

[alucard13mmfmj]

perhaps they can donate a the campaign and a few million to revpac? XD.... the future of the USA and these people of high influence is at stake! collapse of monetary/economy wont help the everyday rich, powerful families. lol what are they gonna buy with a tens of millions of dollars that is worth toilet paper.

 

[muh_roads]

Sounds like Kristol nearly had a nervous breakdown and is now challenging Paul to debate. So I have no reason to doubt the OP.

Keep donating and phoning from home everyone. Push hard and make the neocons poop themselves.

 

[Korey Kaczynski]

This isn't a 'secret millionaire' post is it?

Spoken like a true 07'er!

 

[pappy]

These are the times that try mens souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman---Thomas Paine

If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, — go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!--Samuel Adams

Two of my favorites that sum up how I feel about those with their finger to the wind and waiting to jump on the bandwagon only if it comes along!

pappy

 

[Voluntary Man]

no, I'm not one to speculate, this isn't me saying there some secret twist, just a few people sentiments, but sentiments of people who know the system VERY well. Many political bigwigs are cheering on Ron Paul even though they can't do it publically.

"Can't" because of a medical condition? Are they testicularly challenged....like DeMint?

 

[thoughtomator]

Samuel Adams said:

If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.

 

[JJ2]

no, I'm not one to speculate, this isn't me saying there some secret twist, just a few people sentiments, but sentiments of people who know the system VERY well. Many political bigwigs are cheering on Ron Paul even though they can't do it publically.

But can't they privately donate to the Super PACs?

 

[J_White]

I think the GOP should understand, that without the independents and the energy of the youth voters, they cannot win. Romney does not have it, while Dr. Paul does.
the thing is who is above the Parties and what do they want ?
If the party wants to win, it can make Dr. Paul the nominee, but if the special interests want more bailouts and more wars, then they wont mind Romney being the nominee, because in that case Obama will win and things will continue as usual.

 

[J_White]

enlighten me please , i am a noob !
whats this gotta do with 2007 ?
was there some people hoping some millionaire would suddenly give Paul a lot of money and then he would be able to have a better campaign ?

This isn't a 'secret millionaire' post is it?

 

[cindy25]

this is a strange year; and it will get stranger

events outside the campaign might have a huge influence; watch SOPA, Iran, any big bank failures and/or bailouts; even a major national disaster could have an effect, as could a terrorist attack.

for many Ron is a 2nd choice (DeMint prefers Ron over Romney, as does Palin; even Beck prefers Ron over Newt) so who the final 2 are also has an impact

 

[wsc321]

the whole thing could shift very quickly....

I also believe this. Some in the media must be in denial, because the standing Ron Paul has right now in the race wasn't that hard to see coming prior to NH. It was just a matter of relatively simple comparative analysis.

With the "other three" fighting with one another it looks like the potential perfect storm. Gingrich and Santorum get knocked out, leaving Ron Paul and Romney - then something like the Tax Return issue with Romney could shake confidence in the GOP. Meanwhile, national polls show Ron Paul can beat Obama.

The Mainstream Media HAS overplayed their hand... they've been negative on Paul for so long that they risk having their viewer abandon their influence as irrelevant in a moment. Lots of folks, unfortunately, just want to be "on the bandwagon", and they could get behind Dr. Paul faster than anyone thinks.

I genuinely believe Ron Paul could beat Obama: he'd take the independents, a bunch of Democrats, and nearly all the Republican voters (except for those employed by Fox News or the Federal Government).

 

[deputydon]

Except right now all the polls show in a 2 way race Romney wins easily against Paul - about 60 to 25.

Yeah, right now it. Give Paul some 1v1 debates with Romney and see how that shifts. Mix in the whole Romney Tax issue. If Romney isn't willing to show his taxes before the republican primary ends, how the hell can people even begin to trust him? I still think an audience member needs ask during a debate, "Romney, congressman Paul has said that if he were president he would cut his salary to just under 40k a year. If you became president, would you be willing to cut your salary to that amount as well? If not, then why? And if so, can we hold you to that if you win the presidency?"

He wouldn't know how to respond. He would beat around the bush and take years to answer it. I know it doesn't really sound that big, but I think it could potentially turn out in Paul's favor. Especially if he said no, then the audience member followed up with something like, "You're telling me that you want to raise taxes on the middle class by around 5% but you won't take a pay cut as president in order to restore America to it's former self?"