Inflation Tax By Itself Is A Horrible Idea

[rebelforacause]

WE CAN"T STRESS ENOUGH HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS

I hear that the guy responsible for Nov 5th is for the inflation tax by itself and he does deserve enormous credit but isn't seeing this correctly.

Go ask anyone who has tried convincing the uninformed to listen to something they have never heard.

guess what?

They stop listening after 5 seconds as many are brainwashed

I should know as I have been guilty of NOT keeping it simple stupid

What will the guys that won't admit they are wrong about this do when proven wrong?

IT WILL BE TOO LATE AND ALL WE NEED IS ONE OTHER ISSUE next to it at least.

 

[max]

WE CAN"T STRESS ENOUGH HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS

I hear that the guy responsible for Nov 5th is for the inflation tax by itself and he does deserve enormous credit but isn't seeing this correctly.

Go ask anyone who has tried convincing the uninformed to listen to something they have never heard.

guess what?

They stop listening after 5 seconds as many are brainwashed

I should know as I have been guilty of NOT keeping it simple stupid

What will the guys that won't admit they are wrong about this do when proven wrong?

IT WILL BE TOO LATE AND ALL WE NEED IS ONE OTHER ISSUE next to it at least.

I've been saying this for days...

Tea party is already being talked about in major media. If they talk about it in the context of a backlash against taxes and the war....there's no telling how many people it can bring in from left and right and center...

If Tea party gets spun into an anti monetray policy thing....Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
It will still be HUGE...but the proper marketing (KISS...Keep It Simple Salesperson).. could mean the difference between a 10 Million Dollar bomb among us diehards....or a 25 Million dollar bomb with anti-war and anti-high tax people (almost everyone) joining in the fun....

Why dont we just make it a protest against the expansion of M3 money supply..or bond market yield curves...Zzzzzzzz

It seems to me that egos are at work here and that the success of 11/5 has gotten to people's heads..

TONS of liberals will donate to an anti-war cause (and war and taxes go hand in hand)...we are basically not inviting them.

Keep the inflation stuff in there as a side link...but I fear the decision has already been made...

 

[Joey Wahoo]

We are trying to win the REPUBLICAN nomination. Opposition to the income tax SELLS with Republicans. Returning to the gold standard does not.

The frank and blunt truth is that I have been told by several people who otherwise agree with Dr. Paul, that his desire to abolish the Fed makes him a kook.

I know that he is spot on right about the fed, but the nation is so brainwashed that the idea of competing currencies circulating with federal reserve notes is just too unorthodox for the great majority of voters to accept--yet.

I strongly join the plea to PLEASE emphasize opposition to the income tax, not the fiat currency. At least at this stage of the campaign

 

[LBT]

I started a poll on the Grassroots forum basically in agreement with this.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=35622

I hate to seem antagonistic with Trevor Lyman who is a hero to us all for what he has done, nor to the many great members here, but I agree that this would be a big marketing bungle for many reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that you can't tell a coherent story connecting inflation tax, or even lower taxes for that matter to the historical Boston Tea Party event.

A good story will attract millions of more views on the internet, and many millions more on the TV and it is crucial to moulding the minds of all who hear about teaparty07.

People love the Boston Tea Party because it reminds them of the Revolution. We ought to be teaching them more about it, sharing history with them, and showing that we understand and respect history.

 

[LBT]

I've been saying this for days...

Tea party is already being talked about in major media. If they talk about it in the context of a backlash against taxes and the war....there's no telling how many people it can bring in from left and right and center...

If Tea party gets spun into an anti monetray policy thing....Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
It will still be HUGE...but the proper marketing (KISS...Keep It Simple Salesperson).. could mean the difference between a 10 Million Dollar bomb among us diehards....or a 25 Million dollar bomb with anti-war and anti-high tax people (almost everyone) joining in the fun....

Why dont we just make it a protest against the expansion of M3 money supply..or bond market yield curves...Zzzzzzzz

It seems to me that egos are at work here and that the success of 11/5 has gotten to people's heads..

TONS of liberals will donate to an anti-war cause (and war and taxes go hand in hand)...we are basically not inviting them.

Keep the inflation stuff in there as a side link...but I fear the decision has already been made...

I'd love to have an event to link to the anti-war cause, but I can't see a good connection between the Boston Tea Party and anti-war sentiment. If anything it agitated a war. A rare just war.

 

[NewEnd]

The taxes were used to fund the British Empire, jsut like our taxes are beign used to fund an empire


I actually think, the inflation tax alone could offput many more leftist supporters, who support Ron for his opposition to the wars, and loss of civil libeterties, and only go along with the economic policies. It should not be removed, but it also should not be declared as the cause de celebre

 

[max]

I'd love to have an event to link to the anti-war cause, but I can't see a good connection between the Boston Tea Party and anti-war sentiment. If anything it agitated a war. A rare just war.

We are overtaxed because we have to maintain an empire....thats the connection...

I like the slogan..

"No taxation for foreign occupation"..

Ties war and taxes in nicely and can motivate left-right-and center

 

[hawkeyenick]

Toss on the weakening dollar because of guys like Bernake, and the funding of the Iraq war.

 

[cero]

I have to agree

I have to agree the 5th of november guy did an awesome job on the 5th, but please, listen to what the rest of us are trying to tell you!

 

[lbadragan]

I couldn't agree more emphatically with the sentiment on this thread. If you insist on having "inflation tax" in there, add to it.

People identify with the heavy income tax. They identify with the idea of being overtaxed. They do NOT identify with inflation generally.

When you sell, it's infinitely easier to sell to someone who already recognizes the need for what you're selling instead of trying first to convince him he needs what you're selling.

Please reconsider.

 

[jrich4rpaul]

I just think we need a little more added. No long explanations of everything Paul stands for, but at least more than just opposition to the inflation tax. He has much more going for him than just that.

Mentioning his anti-war policy among other things would help attract more people. If people are seeing teaparty07 before knowing who Ron Paul is, theyre going to need something that draws them to learn more. Simply saying we're going against the inflation tax won't do it.

 

[rebelforacause]

even these issues work from another poster

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Actually, its the economy, not the war. CNN has been saying that all day.

Push the antiwar without the noninterventionist policy and other policies, and you turn off the "I don't agree with the war, but what else are we going to do?" crowd. And 50+ years of history and a foreign policy lesson are pretty hard to fit in a soundbite.


guys they have to change it so email him - although he doesn't get back to you
Is the owner of the site already too important now?

 

[ronpaulyourmom]

Just get off taxes all-together, its too limiting and not even all that relevent historically.

 

[Wayne Hammond]

I just don't understand why you guys don't get it? Leave the reference to the inflation tax as-is. THE INFLATION ISSUE is HUGE and will become ENORMOUS in months to come; larger than any other issue in this campaign. Just wait until next month around this time when the inflation numbers come out.

The decision has been made, and these stupid polls show that it's basically 50-50 on this, and Trevor has made a decision in order to break the gridlock here.

Putting up post after post after post protesting Trevor's decision is just plain stupid and it's getting annoying.

For goodness sake, Trevor's efforts helped to raise over $4 million in one day... the press is already hailing him as a fundraising genius... and he has made numerous changes to the web site based on our suggestions, but we can't seem to give him the benefit of the doubt here?

Whoever made the comment that "Is the owner of the site already too important now?" - you make me sick to my stomach. Both Trevor and Nathaniel have been TOTALLY selfless in all of this.

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[max]

THE INFLATION ISSUE is HUGE and will become ENORMOUS in months to come; larger than any other issue in this campaign.

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It's "huge" only among us in-the-know.....but go talk to 100 people in the street and ask them what they feel are biggest issues....i guarantee you dont get one who says 'The Consumer Price Index"

This is a marketing fiasco....MILLIONS of potential anti-war donors and we're bypassing them because egos want to "educate"..

RP will educate the masses AFTER he gets as much money as possible..

taxation and foreign occupation go hand in hand...and this should be the dual theme.....other stuff can be added as links...but not as the MAIN theme

 

[Alabama Supporter]

Decisions can be changed if there is an outcry. Im not a particular fan of creating new threads on the topic, but I agree the marketing message could be tweaked in favor of including more pressure points on the electorate.

 

[Wayne Hammond]

It's "huge" only among us in-the-know.....but go talk to 100 people in the street and ask them what they feel are biggest issues....i guarantee you dont get one who says 'The Consumer Price Index"

This is a marketing fiasco....MILLIONS of potential anti-war donors and we're bypassing them because egos want to "educate"..

Just wait. The "people on the street" will be complaining loudly about INFLATION shortly. People understand their POCKETBOOK. They understand that gas has gone up 30 cents a gallon, milk by 50 cents, bread by 40 cents...

It is not a "marketing fiasco" - it is marketing genius - it's tapping into the PRIMARY issue people will be concerned about in the very near future.

If you study history of Presidential election campaigns - in election cycles where the economy is headed down fast, people make the ECONOMY their number one issue. "It's the ECONOMY, stupid" (as one recent Presidential campaign put it - and they WON using that as their slogan)

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[Alabama Supporter]

The inflation numbers are cooked Wayne. They will not show much difference next month.

 

[NewEnd]

The inflation numbers are cooked Wayne. They will not show much difference next month.

its true

and we need as broad of support as possible. Iraq war, and civil liberties are enoguh to get all the liberals on baord... you got the conservatives on board with the inflation tax, now add osmething to get the liberals on board, and viola.... huge day.

 

[rebelforacause]

absolutely alabama

wayne you are a moron
I was refering to nathan based on experience but you don't listen to facts
whoever said 50-50 is spinning this.

one issue on the first screen that people don't understand

I tested this tonight at the grocery store and it was confirmed

AND YOU?