Important SCOTUS ruling guts Due Process

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http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/12/supreme-court-guts-due-process-protection.html

The development? If the president or one of his subordinates declares someone to be an “enemy combatant” (the 21st century version of “enemy of the state”) he is denied any protection of the law. So any trouble-maker (which means anyone) can be whisked away, incarcerated, tortured, “disappeared,” you name it.

Full text at link. Not a good development at all and not a word from the MSM of course.
 
id like to see another link to this and not just a blog
 
Gandalf quoting from the Book of Mazarbul said:
They have taken the bridge and the second hall. We have barred the gates but cannot hold them for long. The ground shakes. Drums...drums in the deep. We cannot get out. A shadow lurks in the dark. We cannot get out...they are coming.

(No, RPF, this message is not too short.)
 
id like to see another link to this and not just a blog

Just follow the links.

The blog links to:
http://chris-floyd.com/component/co...ma-and-the-supremes-stand-up-for-slavery.html

which links to antiwar.com article:
http://original.antiwar.com/fisher/2009/12/15/us-guantanamo-prisoners-not-persons/

In the wake of the U.S. Supreme Court’s refusal Monday to review a lower court’s dismissal of a case brought by four British former Guantanamo prisoners against former defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld, the detainees’ lawyers charged Tuesday that the country’s highest court evidently believes that "torture and religious humiliation are permissible tools for a government to use."

The U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C., had ruled that government officials were immune from suit because at that time it was unclear whether abusing prisoners at Guantanamo was illegal.

Channeling their predecessors in the George W. Bush administration, Obama Justice Department lawyers argued in this case that there is no constitutional right not to be tortured or otherwise abused in a U.S. prison abroad.

The Obama administration had asked the court not to hear the case. By agreeing, the court let stand an earlier opinion by the D.C. Circuit Court, which found that the Religious Freedom Restoration Act – a statute that applies by its terms to all "persons" – did not apply to detainees at Guantanamo, effectively ruling that the detainees are not persons at all for purposes of U.S. law. (devil21: Also very concerning that SCOTUS is being asked by Obama to NOT hear a case! Hello! Separation of powers?)

The lower court also dismissed the detainees’ claims under the Alien Tort Statute and the Geneva Conventions, finding defendants immune on the basis that "torture is a foreseeable consequence of the military’s detention of suspected enemy combatants."

Finally, the circuit court found that, even if torture and religious abuse were illegal, defendants were immune under the Constitution because they could not have reasonably known that detainees at Guantanamo had any constitutional rights.

The circuit court ruled that "torture is a foreseeable consequence of the military’s detention of suspected enemy combatants."

That opinion was written by Judge Karen Lecraft Henderson, who was appointed to the federal circuit court by Ronald Reagan in 1986 and to the Appeals Court in 1990 by George H.W. Bush.

The British detainees spent more than two years in Guantanamo and were repatriated to Britain in 2004 with no charges ever having been filed against them.

Eric Lewis, lead attorney for the detainees, said, "It is an awful day for the rule of law and common decency when the Supreme Court lets stand such an inhuman decision. The final word on whether these men had a right not to be tortured or a right to practice their religion free from abuse is that they did not."

"The lower court found that torture is all in a days’ work for the secretary of defense and senior generals," he added. "That violates the president’s stated policy, our treaty obligations, and universal legal norms. Yet the Obama administration, in its rush to protect executive power, lost its moral compass and persuaded the Supreme Court to avoid a central moral challenge. Today our standing in the world has suffered a further great loss."

Center for Constitutional Rights Senior Attorney Shayana Kadidal, co-counsel on the case, told IPS, "In many ways the opinion the Supreme Court left standing today is worse when one gets past the bottom line – no accountability for torture and religious abuse – and digs into the legal reasoning."

"One set of claims are dismissed because torture is said to be a foreseeable consequence of military detention," he said. "How will the parents of our troops captured in future foreign wars react to that?"

"Another set of claims are dismissed because Guantanamo detainees are not ‘persons’ within the scope of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act – an argument that was too close to Dred Scott v. Sanford for one of the judges on the court of appeals to swallow," he added.

The Dred Scott case was a decision by the United States Supreme Court in 1857. It ruled that people of African descent imported into the United States and held as slaves, or their descendants — whether or not they were slaves — were not protected by the Constitution and could never be citizens of the United States.

"The way the case was defended is in some ways emblematic of the Obama administration’s waffling on national security issues," Kadidal noted. "On the one hand they recognize that torture is reprehensible, doesn’t work, and is universally condemned; on the other they don’t want to prosecute people who ordered, facilitated, or carried it out, and are actively seeking to eliminate other mechanisms for accountability like this case – anything that might lead to a court saying crimes were committed and innocent people were brutally abused."

The four former detainees – Shafiq Rasul, Asif Iqbal, Rhuhel Ahmed, and Jamal Al-Harith – filed their case in 2004 seeking damages from former secretary of defense Donald Rumsfeld and senior U.S. military officers for violations of their constitutional rights and of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which prohibits infringement of religion by the U.S. government against any person.

Their claims were dismissed in 2008 by the Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit when that court held that detainees have no rights under the Constitution and do not count as "persons" for purposes of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. Last year, the Supreme Court granted the men’s first petition, vacated the Court of Appeals decision and ordered the D.C. Circuit to reconsider its ruling in light of the Supreme Court’s historic decision in Boumediene v. Bush, which held that Guantánamo is de facto U.S. territory and that detainees have a constitutional right to habeas corpus.

On remand, the D.C. Circuit reiterated its view that the Constitution does not prohibit torture of detainees at Guantánamo and that detainees still are not "persons" protected from religious abuse. Finally, the Court of Appeals held that, in any event, the government officials involved are immune from liability because the right not to be tortured was not clearly established.

A second petition filed with the Court in August 2009 pointed out that the Court of Appeals decision stands in conflict with all of the Supreme Court’s recent precedent on Guantánamo and attacked the notion that the prohibitions against torture and religious abuse were not clearly established in 2002 when the petitioners were imprisoned.

(Inter Press Service)
 
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This should be posted under general politics where more people can see it.
 
more than just a little misleading

The SCOTUS did not "side" with the government, they denied the writ of certiorari. There is a huge difference there.

Remember your civics 101 folks before you go blasting around that there's a conspiracy in the air. The SCOTUS is not supposed to (and in fact does not) decide guilt or innocence (non-guilt), it resolves questions of ambiguous constitutionality.

You cannot get a SCOTUS hearing just because you appeal because you believe you are innocent. You only get a SCOTUS hearing if the case brought before it relies upon a section of the constitution that, in the Justices' opinion, has not already been set down by the Supreme court, or that has been set down but needs to be overturned.

If the supreme court rules that the first amendment to the bill of rights is incorporated to the states and an appeal reaches them wherein the result of the case is dependent upon whether or not the first amendment applies to states as well as federal government, the SCOTUS will deny the writ of certiorari because the issue at hand, incorporation of the bill of rights, has already been decided. They are not denying certiorari because they believe the defendent is a sack of shit and they are siding with the governments encroachment upon your liberties.

There is enough horrible stuff going on right now without linking to trumped up sites (seriously, the story changes with every link).

btw: I recently removed Yves' blog (Naked Capitalism) from my followed feeds.. Becoming entirely to dependent upon her preferred govt intervention. While the site espoused free-marked ideals when I first started reading it ~1 year ago, it has morphed over time to become almost indistinguishable from most of the articles that find themselves in The Economist.
 
A denial *is* a ruling. It is a ruling that the previous Appeals Courts ruling is accurate and therefore has the weight of case law and precedence. In other words, SCOTUS upheld the gutting of Due Process by refusing to hear the case and rule otherwise.

I understand what you're saying but it's kinda semantic differences.
 
hardly semantic

A denial *is* a ruling.

I understand what you're saying but it's kinda semantic differences.

I have to disagree, the difference is much more than semantic. The SCOTUS, in denying certiorari, is simply stating that there is no question of constitutionality of the case.


TITLE 28 > PART IV > CHAPTER 81 > § 1257
State courts; certiorari
(a) Final judgments or decrees rendered by the highest court of a State in which a decision could be had, may be reviewed by the Supreme Court by writ of certiorari where the validity of a treaty or statute of the United States is drawn in question or where the validity of a statute of any State is drawn in question on the ground of its being repugnant to the Constitution, treaties, or laws of the United States, or where any title, right, privilege, or immunity is specially set up or claimed under the Constitution or the treaties or statutes of, or any commission held or authority exercised under, the United States.
By the SCOTUS rules:
Rule 10. Considerations Governing Review on Writ of Certiorari

Review on a writ of certiorari is not a matter of right, but of judicial discretion. A petition for a writ of certiorari will be granted only for compelling reasons. The following, although neither controlling nor fully measuring the Court's discretion, indicate the character of the reasons the Court considers:

* (a) a United States court of appeals has entered a decision in conflict with the decision of another United States court of appeals on the same important matter; has decided an important federal question in a way that conflicts with a decision by a state court of last resort; or has so far departed from the accepted and usual course of judicial proceedings, or sanctioned such a departure by a lower court, as to call for an exercise of this Court's supervisory power;
* (b) a state court of last resort has decided an important federal question in a way that conflicts with the decision of another state court of last resort or of a United States court of appeals;
* (c) a state court or a United States court of appeals has decided an important question of federal law that has not been, but should be, settled by this Court, or has decided an important federal question in a way that conflicts with relevant decisions of this Court.

A petition for a writ of certiorari is rarely granted when the asserted error consists of erroneous factual findings or the misapplication of a properly stated rule of law.

simply put - even if the SCOTUS believes that a statute was applied improperly in this case, causing a verdict to rule against a plaintiff rather than for, they will not hear the case under most conditions because the statute itself is not in question and has been clearly defined.

I understand the desire to believe that there is a supreme body that decides in favor of justice, but that simply does not exist in these united states. SCOTUS simply clarifies ambiguous portions of the Constitution.


Supreme Court Rules
Cornell US Code Collection
General Info from Wikipedia
 
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btw, Here's the case[pdf link] (an appeals court decision regarding these same plaintiffs) that you should be upset about:
from page 3

qualified immunity shields the defendants because the asserted rights were not clearly established at the time of plaintiffs’ detention.

the problem is that people are allowing the government to decide what their rights are and seem to be happy with this. If rights are determined by government, and only exist when government says they do and not before that time, then it follows that rights cease to exist when government says they no longer apply.

Don't get worked up over a specific case or president or court of justices when the problem is the government at large.

Barack Obama isn't the problem, the office of the president of the united states having the power it does is our problem.

SCOTUS denying writ of certiorari isn't the problem, the problem is the people allowing the government to define rights to begin with.
 
The supreme court has become more and more lazy over the years taking less and less court cases.

Let me quote from my American Government book, which is rather good by the way.
"A denial is not a decision on the merits of a case, nor does it indicate agreement with the lower court's opinion. (The judgment of the lower court remains in force, however.) Therefore, denial of the writ has no value as precedent. The Court will not issue a writ unless at least four justices approve of it. This is called the rule of four."

The denial for a writ of certiorari does not mean the supreme court endorses the lower courts ruling nor does it change any precedent the SCOTUS made.
 
I have to disagree, the difference is much more than semantic. The SCOTUS, in denying certiorari, is simply stating that there is no question of constitutionality of the case.

Not so fast. The supreme court can't handle every case put in front of it. Many cases are denied because the the justices view of importance on the case. No justices ever reveal what their criteria is. 4 justices must vote to grant a petition for review if the case is to be put in front of the court.

The supreme court does accept cases that they have set precedents for already if the lower courts differ in their ruling from the precedent. Thus so the supreme court can make a resolution on the case.
 
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