IMPORTANT: OFFICIAL HURRICANE THREAD

[Anti Federalist]

Meanhwile, in NH.

(What? Too soon?)

 

[MozoVote]

I think it's fair to say this was a national event. The weather forecast for Madison WI mentions cooler temperatures due to the cirrus deck from Sandy. St. Louis MO mentions increased fire danger from the dry winds circling south. This is a thousand miles from landfall!

We've had big hurricanes before, but they usually only affect "a few" states.

 

[MelissaWV]

now i know how people from Cali feel when they see people from Maine freaking out over a Mag 3 earthquake.

You understand, I hope, that "Category" does not mean anywhere near as much as people love to think? A TS or even a TD can displace people easily, and your house being entirely underwater or a restaurant floating down the river past you is not going to go away just for saying "well but it wasn't a Cat 5!". No one is really talking about extensive wind damage. This is a huge flooding event. Boohoo it wasn't Katrina. Well Katrina wasn't that friggin' "powerful" when it made landfall, either, if you're going to stick to categories. But does that matter? Hmm.

Out of the top 30 costliest storms, 4 were Cat1... and 1 was even a TS. Only 3 were Category 5 when they struck. Katrina was a Category 3.

So when you have a good belly laugh at people waist deep in water before the storm surge even peaks, maybe you should consider how silly you sound?

 

[brandon]

Melissa, I mostly agree with you but a lot of people are talking about very extensive wind damage. There's already been two homes destroyed in my town from falling trees in the last couple hours. It won't be pretty by the morning in some areas.

 

[ghengis86]

Ground Zero

 

[MelissaWV]

Melissa, I mostly agree with you but a lot of people are talking about very extensive wind damage. There's already been two homes destroyed in my town from falling trees in the last couple hours. It won't be pretty by the morning in some areas.

There is always some. My point was that "category" leads people to think "oh it's a TS now; that won't do much... people are so overreacting." These are not 150 mph sustained winds, no, but it is a major weather event. I am the first to laugh at people in the NE when they freak out over a summer thunderstorm, but mocking this just seems dumb to me. There are several people on the boards literally trying to figure out if their homes are going to flood, fall apart, or what, and we STILL have to have a King Troll who has to say "pshhh drama queens."

 

[presence]

Flooding lower Manhatten tunnels amd subway stations. Imagine that will take awhile to pump out and clean up.

In terms of sanitation its probably the best thing that could have ever happened. A good saltwater wash.

"winds will continue to wind down gradually throught the rest of the week"

http://www.weather.com/news/weather-hurricanes/sandy-top-five-20121028

their emphasis.

Also, they're reporting appalachian blizzard conditions WV V NC. 10 inches down.

and darkness creeps in NYC:

 

[Keith and stuff]

I was just in Manhattan. Here is how it looked on Sunday, before the storm - there were even beautiful leaves on the trees.

 

[cindy25]

stock exchange and subway both gone

 

[V3n]

CNN just reported 3 feet of water on the Stock Exchange floor.

 

[Bruno]

This is mostly a flooding event, the constant sustained winds will be an issue but flooding by far will cause billions more in damage. And Melissa says it well as always, who gives a damn what category it is when tunnels amd neighborhoods are flooded.

Flooding causes more property damage and deaths than other natural disasters.

 

[Dr.3D]

stock exchange and subway both gone

That's salt water too. It will cause a lot of damage to the electrical systems.

 

[ronpaulfollower999]

Well...I can't say I'm too overly depressed over the news about the NYSE.

 

[opal]

where's FEMA? no really.. are they parked in Rochester or what?

 

[ghengis86]

That's salt water too. It will cause a lot of damage to the electrical systems.

Hopefully the colo'd algo's servers are trashed

 

[torchbearer]

You understand, I hope, that "Category" does not mean anywhere near as much as people love to think? A TS or even a TD can displace people easily, and your house being entirely underwater or a restaurant floating down the river past you is not going to go away just for saying "well but it wasn't a Cat 5!". No one is really talking about extensive wind damage. This is a huge flooding event. Boohoo it wasn't Katrina. Well Katrina wasn't that friggin' "powerful" when it made landfall, either, if you're going to stick to categories. But does that matter? Hmm.

Out of the top 30 costliest storms, 4 were Cat1... and 1 was even a TS. Only 3 were Category 5 when they struck. Katrina was a Category 3.

So when you have a good belly laugh at people waist deep in water before the storm surge even peaks, maybe you should consider how silly you sound?

media driven freak out is media driven freak out.
you should see from my perspective how silly all of this sounds.

now for your education:

The storm rapidly intensified after entering the Gulf, growing from a Category 3 hurricane to a Category 5 hurricane in just nine hours. This rapid growth was due to the storm's movement over the "unusually warm" waters of the Loop Current, which increased wind speeds.[SUP][10][/SUP] On Saturday, August 27, the storm reached Category 3 intensity on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale, becoming the third major hurricane of the season. An eyewall replacement cycle disrupted the intensification, but caused the storm to nearly double in size. Katrina again rapidly intensified, attaining Category 5 status on the morning of August 28 and reached its peak strength at 1800 UTC that day, with maximum sustained winds of 175 mph (280 km/h) and a minimum central pressure of 902 mbar (26.6 inHg). The pressure measurement made Katrina the fourth most intense Atlantic hurricane on record at the time, only to be surpassed by Hurricanes Rita and Wilma later in the season; it was also the strongest hurricane ever recorded in the Gulf of Mexico at the time. However, this record was later broken by Hurricane Rita.[SUP][3][/SUP]

what happened to sandy when she made landfall? she is now just a low pressure system. its something hurricane's do when they leave their water bed. they reduce in intensity. Sandy was a Cat 1, now she is just low pressure.
Katrina was Cat 5, but when hit land reduced to a 3. the surge winds were generated by a Cat 5.

 

[kathy88]

I'm watching the weather channel. They say no flooding at exchange. Bloom bergs gonna give a press conf now

 

[MelissaWV]

where's FEMA? no really.. are they parked in Rochester or what?

FEMA cannot swoop in until the storm has more or less passed and they can set up shop somewhere. While FEMA botches things up, this would be true of any other relief effort. There's no point in bringing in water and food if people can't really leave to get them yet.

 

[torchbearer]

Katrina: with maximum sustained winds of 175 mph

 

[MelissaWV]

I don't need education on hurricanes, thanks. You're an expert in Louisiana? Pffbt. Whatever.

Oh no it was a Cat 5 BEFORE IT HIT and then weakened to a Cat 3, which several of the other storms on the "costliest" list didn't do. They were STRONGER STORMS that caused LESS DAMAGE, blowing your little "category" theory out of the water. Katrina's damage total was caused almost entirely by stupidity.

Even if you want to laugh to yourself about this, don't you think it's just in a little bit of bad taste as fellow forum members are trying to salvage their homes? Or do you want so badly to feel superior that you don't care?