IMPORTANT: OFFICIAL HURRICANE THREAD

[mad cow]

I think in most cases mandatory evacuations simply mean if you get into trouble 911 will not assist.

That is the way it is in Virginia,at least.I was under a mandatory evacuation for Isabel and I didn't leave.2 firemen did come by my house and said I was on my own,emergency wise.
I did not enjoy Isabel.If anything bigger is ever forecasted for here,I'm driving 100 miles inland,finding me a nice hotel and riding it out on a barstool.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Most of the "mandatory evacuation" orders have more to do with what people will do to help you than actually forcing you to leave your house.

It's one of those terms like "state of emergency" (declared sometimes a day or two ahead of actual damage) that has other meanings.

If they are doing it how a lot of places around me do, then people are not forcibly removed from their homes. If, however, something happens to that person and they dial 9-1-1 they are shit out of luck for most things. Tree fell on your leg? Caught in a flash flood? Please tell me why the EMS workers who warned you it might happen must now literally risk their lives to go help you out. It happens quite a bit, and then the rescuer gets injured or killed.

Please...cry me a river.

That's what they, and I used to, get paid for.

That's what they are they for.

If you freeze up and shut down right when you're needed most, then what's the point?

If that's the case, why are we spending billions of dollars on emergency response systems?

Might as well just shut it all down, and let private companies just come in and clean up the mess afterwards.

God, when did this nation turn into such a bunch of slack jawed fagg ots, scared and whimpering every time the wind blows?

 

[MelissaWV]

Please...cry me a river.

That's what they, and I used to, get paid for.

That's what they are they for.

If you freeze up and shut down right when you're needed most, then what's the point?

If that's the case, why are we spending billions of dollars on emergency response systems?

Might as well just shut it all down, and let let private companies just come in and clean up the mess afterwards.

God, when did this nation turn into such a bunch of slack jawed ******s, scared and whimpering every time the wind blows?

This isn't "every time the wind blows." They will also still respond to certain life-or-death situations, sadly enough, where some moron manages to have a heart attack because waves really are as high and destructive as predicted.

When did this nation turn into such a bunch of macho-man ignorant pricks that want to "ride it out" but then call 9-1-1 when they get showered with glass or the flood waters they were warned about actually materalize, and expect people to risk their lives to apply a bandage?

Save me Government!

 

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

 

[Nirvikalpa]

Please...cry me a river.

That's what they, and I used to, get paid for.

That's what they are they for.

If you freeze up and shut down right when you're needed most, then what's the point?

If that's the case, why are we spending billions of dollars on emergency response systems?

Might as well just shut it all down, and let let private companies just come in and clean up the mess afterwards.

God, when did this nation turn into such a bunch of slack jawed fagg ots, scared and whimpering every time the wind blows?

I work for a private EMS company. We're not going to save you if you are too foolish to get out. Not scared and whimpering, just smart. So things like this don't happen.

 

[Anti Federalist]

This isn't "every time the wind blows." They will also still respond to certain life-or-death situations, sadly enough, where some moron manages to have a heart attack because waves really are as high and destructive as predicted.

When did this nation turn into such a bunch of macho-man ignorant pricks that want to "ride it out" but then call 9-1-1 when they get showered with glass or the flood waters they were warned about actually materalize, and expect people to risk their lives to apply a bandage?

Save me Government!

"Morons" have heart attacks all the time and an EMT could just as easily get wrecked driving the ambulance to a heart attack victim on a bright sunny day.

That's what "emergency responders" are supposed to do, respond in emergencies, not run away when an emergency or bad conditions strike.

And I wasn't government funded, doing the emergency response I was doing.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I work for a private EMS company. We're not going to save you if you are too foolish to get out. Not scared and whimpering, just smart.

And I ran private rescue and salvage vessels.

It was my job to extricate people from dangerous jams that they gotten themselves into.

I dunno, maybe I'm being overly harsh, as a response to the spun up and out of control media on this issue.

 

[MelissaWV]

"Morons" have heart attacks all the time and an EMT could just as easily get wrecked driving the ambulance to a heart attack victim on a bright sunny day.

That's what "emergency responders" are supposed to do, respond in emergencies, not run away when an emergency or bad conditions strike.

And I wasn't government funded, doing the emergency response I was doing.

Just like if there's a powerline across a car... they are expected to lift it up and electrocute themselves, right? Or are there mitigating circumstances, the difference between the chance of a wreck and having to tie yourself off and wade through a flash flood in 50 mph winds to get to a pseudo-emergency?

 

[angelatc]

i bet when that happened ,the cop started shooting at the rain to try and bring it into submission.

Promptly issued a warrant for Poseidon.

 

[malkusm]

And I ran private rescue and salvage vessels.

It was my job to extricate people from dangerous jams that they gotten themselves into.

I dunno, maybe I'm being overly harsh, as a response to the spun up and out of control media on this issue.

It's one thing to get stuck in a jam....quite another to have literally days of advance notice to prepare or evacuate, and then to not do so, and ask someone else to bear the responsibility of your (in)actions.

I wasn't told to evacuate, although I feel there is a reasonable flood risk at my residence; but I will deal with the consequences of that decision if and when they present themselves.

 

[angelatc]

Please...cry me a river.

That's what they, and I used to, get paid for.

That's what they are they for.

If you freeze up and shut down right when you're needed most, then what's the point?

If that's the case, why are we spending billions of dollars on emergency response systems?

I tend to agree. If the First Responders don't want to respond because they might get hurt, that's ok. I get that. But that means they don't get to call themselves heroes just by nature of their paycheck. They get seriously put out when people, being people, don't always follow the state's directions.

I can only assume that when Obamacare kicks in full force, the doctors and nurses will adopt the same attitude. Don't follow my instructions? Fine - die. Serves you right.

And it's even worse, IMHO. Not only will they refuse to go in and rescue the mundane "idiots" they so disdain, they physically restrain any common folk who genuinely wants to help.

 

[Anti Federalist]

It's one thing to get stuck in a jam....quite another to have literally days of advance notice to prepare or evacuate, and then to not do so, and ask someone else to bear the responsibility of your (in)actions.

I wasn't told to evacuate, although I feel there is a reasonable flood risk at my residence; but I will deal with the consequences of that decision if and when they present themselves.

Which is all well and good, and I commend you for that.

Doesn't it irritate you just a little bit to know that the multi billion emergency response system that NYC has in place, will leave you twisting in the wind, literally, if you needed them in this emergency?

Especially after paying, jeez, I can only imagine how much in taxes you pay, every year?

It's like buying insurance and then being told that the company is not going to pay out on a valid claim.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I tend to agree. If the First Responders don't want to respond because they might get hurt, that's ok. I get that. But that means they don't get to call themselves heroes just by nature of their paycheck.

And it's even worse, IMHO. Not only will they refuse to go in and rescue the mundane "idiots" they so disdain, they physically restrain any common folk who genuinely wants to help.

Ex-actly!

 

[Nirvikalpa]

And I ran private rescue and salvage vessels.

It was my job to extricate people from dangerous jams that they gotten themselves into.

I dunno, maybe I'm being overly harsh, as a response to the spun up and out of control media on this issue.

And you went through training for it, I assume? Usually EMS/first responders who respond to "dangerous jams" are trained for it, like water rescues. They are not the average fireman or EMT.

 

[MelissaWV]

Which is all well and good, and I commend you for that.

Doesn't it irritate you just a little bit to know that the multi billion emergency response system that NYC has in place, will leave you twisting in the wind, literally, if you needed them in this emergency?

Especially after paying, jeez, I can only imagine how much in taxes you pay, every year?

It's like buying insurance and then being told that the company is not going to pay out on a valid claim.

No, it is like buying insurance and them coming out, repeatedly, and telling you that your roof is not up to par and will not stand up to high winds, so it is excluded. And when you put in a claim for wind damage to your roof, they don't cover it.

That multi-billion dollar system WILL be responding to people who are NOT in the totally-underwater mess of the evacuation zones.

 

[AuH20]

Winds gusting even more now. No rain yet. Will be getting up very early tomorrow morning. 6AM mandatory evacuation in coastal areas of S. Eastern NY. I finally got everything packed in the car except the cooler which I'll take care of tomorrw. This is really starting to get to me. It's one thing if it's a natural disaster but if there's a hidden agenda to take advantage of the situation - THAT's what's beginning to freak me out. Check out the video. I'm having visions of Katrina. Don't want to think so negatively but after months of reading about an "October Surprise," I'm getting very nervous. VERY NERVOUS. I don't recall this EVER happening in my area before. Signing out for the night. My thoughts and prayers to you all. STAY SAFE!

206th Military Police Company Deployed in Response to Hurricane Sandy

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(I also heard that areas where people had to evacuate from their communities, will be heavily patrolled by the police who will also use surveilence to protect property).

This ain't nothing. Wait until Dec. 21st. If there is some type of pole shift, god help all of us.

 

[malkusm]

Which is all well and good, and I commend you for that.

Doesn't it irritate you just a little bit to know that the multi billion emergency response system that NYC has in place, will leave you twisting in the wind, literally, if you needed them in this emergency?

Especially after paying, jeez, I can only imagine how much in taxes you pay, every year?

It's like buying insurance and then being told that the company is not going to pay out on a valid claim.

No more than it would for me to pay car insurance year after year, then to not get paid on a claim where I do something stupid such as causing a fire because I clearly violated posted warnings:

 

[MozoVote]

From the Wunderground blog, worth sharing this sight of the season:

 

[MelissaWV]

Okay that is awesome.

 

[Anti Federalist]

No more than it would for me to pay car insurance year after year, then to not get paid on a claim where I do something stupid such as causing a fire because I clearly violated posted warnings:

So, if you, after years and years and years of faithfully paying insurance premiums, have a wreck and the cloud of surveillance that surrounds us indicates that you were going 1 MPH over the posted speed limit at the time of said wreck, they should be able to deny your claim?