I'm voting Trump for laughs

[invisible]

Nationalism acts a natural bulwark against global integration. There will never be a libertarian revolution because daily life doesn't afford one the necessary time to find this hidden path. Hamsters literally can't get off their personal wheels to appraise the situation.

Libertarians want to stick their heads in the sand while this menacing shadow has almost swept across the land. We need to do something. Nationalism brings in incredible numbers to this critical fight that are we incapable of swaying over by logical means. It's either nationalism as a short term measure or it's global technocracy. Pick your poison.

And how is that any different than what was being said in post-WWI Germany?

 

[AuH20]

I would rather avoid poison.

But I will watch your Nazi State.. and I will testify before the final judge exactly what i see.

I am an observer. and I am a witness.

So all countries that reject globalism will automatically turn into a Nazi state? Well, if watchful individuals like myself don't keep the insidious elements in check, then possibly your conclusion may be correct. But while all the easy marks have their eyes on those burgeoning 'Nazis', the Bolsheviks already run your PTA meeting and formulate your county budgets.

 

[AuH20]

And how is that any different than what was being said in post-WWI Germany?

And we don't have that lesson fresh in our minds? Rejecting globalism with nationalist means does not equal to the reformation of the Third Reich.

 

[invisible]

Since we don't have that lesson fresh in our minds? Rejecting globalism with nationalist means does not equal the formation of the Third Reich.

When a candidate comes along spouting exactly this sort of rhetoric, and people are dumb enough to elected that candidate, why would you expect the result to be any different?

 

[thatpeculiarcat]

Oh for fuck's sake. What in the fuck happened to this forum?

 

[AuH20]

When a candidate comes along spouting exactly this sort of rhetoric, and people are dumb enough to elected that candidate, why would you expect the result to be any different?

Maybe because we haven't been railroaded with the indigence of the Treaty of Versailles or suffered through hyperinflation? We have all these fools pushing the Nazi angle for fear purposes when America has been placed on a completely different path than the Germans.

 

[invisible]

Maybe because we haven't been railroaded with the indigence of the Treaty of Versailles or suffered through hyperinflation? We have all these fools pushing the Nazi angle for fear purposes when America has been placed on a completely different path than the Germans.

For the US, the treaties we're on the losing end of are trade-based, with the same result. You don't think we've had much inflation? You must believe the official economic stats, then. For most people in this country, the economy is in a shambles. Your entire appeal in post #58 is based on fear. When someone runs on a nationalist facist platform, why would you be surprised that people would compare that candidate to hitler?

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Oh for fuck's sake. What in the fuck happened to this forum?

Election season.

 

[AuH20]

For the US, the treaties we're on the losing end of are trade-based, with the same result. You don't think we've had much inflation? You must believe the official economic stats, then. For most people in this country, the economy is in a shambles. Your entire appeal in post #58 is based on fear. When someone runs on a nationalist facist platform, why would you be surprised that people would compare that candidate to hitler?

No wheel barrows have been dispensed to make purchases of bread. Germany was brought down to it's knees, before it ever embraced Hitler. Our first world problems consist of spotty Wi-Fi areas.

 

[Rad]

My conscience and my hands are clean. Why would I want to dirty them with dirt I can't get off just for a laugh?

 

[AuH20]

 

[Occam's Banana]

Raises an interesting question: what if we massively refused to participate? My immediate impulse is to conclude that Theye would then do whatever the hell they wanted, any complaint to be met with "you didn't participate, thereby making the voice of your pleasure heard loudly and clearly."

But if you DO participate, Theye would simply say, "you DID participate, thereby making the voice of your pleasure heard loudly and clearly." And in this Theye are correct - by participating, you DO in fact promote greater currency and social credibility for Theire claims of legitimacy (whether you intended to or not). But by NOT particpating, you do NOT do so - regardless of what Theye claim ...

The answer to your "interesting question" is what Theye most and truly fear. Sufficiently massive non-participation would seriously degrade the currency and social credibility of Theire claims to legitimacy. That is why Theye fear it - and that, in turn, is why Theye must resort to (falsely) asserting co-option of non-participation (à la "if you don't vote, you have no right to complain," etc., etc.).

Campbell's Law also applies here: "You can't do just one thing."

If motivated by actual opposition rather than mere apathy, mass popular non-participation would be symptomized by much, much more than merely "not voting." You have already mentioned "mass civil disobedience." There would also be "mass active non-compliance," "mass vocal dissent & denunciation of Themme," etc., etc. (perhaps even including or culminating in openly violent resistance to Themme).

In other words, "not voting" is not sensibly to be understood as the cause of mass opposition to Themme, but rather as just one more effect or expression of such opposition. Participation is deleterious to the cause of opposition - it plays right into Theire hands, and it redounds to Theire benefit. This is why voting for or otherwise "supporting" Trump (or any other Clowne) in any way - even if only for "entertainment" purposes - is counterproductive. It allows Themme to claim legitimacy (whether that was intended by the participants or not) and it sluices opposition into "safe" channels (which may pose cosmetic challenges, but no fundamental dangers, to Themme).

 

[Danke]

They had him killed

 

[AuH20]

They had him killed

He was going to come back to the U.S. and possibly run for POTUS, with all the disturbing information he had gleaned.

 

[Libertas Aut Mortis]

I know that Churchill had a similar position. Could you direct me to a text or source that may further discuss their views? It is definitely not a subject taught in school.

 

[AuH20]

I know that Churchill had a similar position. Could you direct me to a text or source that may further discuss their views? It is definitely not a subject taught in school.

But Churchill was the one who threw Rudolph Hess, the deputy Fuhrer, into the tower of London for fear that he would reveal the unfathomable to the world. That of course was the revelation that Germany wished to broker peace while relinquishing all of France and parts of Poland. The near suicidal mission of Rudolph Hess across the English Channel refutes the notion that the Germans were driven to conquer the world.

 

[AuH20]

I know that Churchill had a similar position. Could you direct me to a text or source that may further discuss their views? It is definitely not a subject taught in school.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...sm-of-allied-war-leaders-claims-new-book.html

His book, "Target Patton", contains interviews with Mr Bazata, who died in 1999, and extracts from his diaries, detailing how he staged the car crash by getting a troop truck to plough into Patton's Cadillac and then shot the general with a low-velocity projectile, which broke his neck while his fellow passengers escaped without a scratch.

Mr Bazata also suggested that when Patton began to recover from his injuries, US officials turned a blind eye as agents of the NKVD, the forerunner of the KGB, poisoned the general.

Mr Wilcox told The Sunday Telegraph that when he spoke to Mr Bazata: "He was struggling with himself, all these killings he had done. He confessed to me that he had caused the accident, that he was ordered to do so by Wild Bill Donovan.

"Donovan told him: 'We've got a terrible situation with this great patriot, he's out of control and we must save him from himself and from ruining everything the allies have done.' I believe Douglas Bazata. He's a sterling guy."

 

[pcosmar]

So all countries that reject globalism will automatically turn into a Nazi state? ]

I never said that. nor in any way inferred it.
Did you erect this straw-man to burn down or to accuse me of?

Globalism is coming. Period.. a foregone reality at this point.

fucking the US up further by embracing National Socialism will not help at all.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Vermin Supreme is the only principled choice.

Thread winnar.

 

[invisible]

No wheel barrows have been dispensed to make purchases of bread. Germany was brought down to it's knees, before it ever embraced Hitler. Our first world problems consist of spotty Wi-Fi areas.

Do you seriously feel that is the extent of our country's problems, and that serious economic problems don't exist here?