I'm voting Trump for laughs

I don't see anyone here shilling for Hillary? They would receive the same excoriation. None of the others represent an improvement, but I don't see a concerted effort to promote them or the name of any other candidate in every other "new post."


For pity's sake - SHILLING? You think I'm shilling for Trump? You cannot be serious. He'd have to pay me. A lot... and I don't know what your standards are, but mine would be not a penny under $1K/hour... and I'd call that impossibly generous... on MY part.

Have I not been clear in my opinion that Trump is almost certainly the SOS? If it's not been clear to YOU, then be clear on it now: Donald is almost certainly not going to be good for America, just as will be the case with any of the others. Claro?

But something odd MIGHT (not word in caps) be up with Trump. I only suggested we let that play out just to see if anything notably different comes of it. We already know what we will get with the others.
 
But if you DO participate, Theye would simply say, "you DID participate, thereby making the voice of your pleasure heard loudly and clearly." And in this Theye are correct - by participating, you DO in fact promote greater currency and social credibility for Theire claims of legitimacy (whether you intended to or not). But by NOT particpating, you do NOT do so - regardless of what Theye claim ...

The answer to your "interesting question" is what Theye most and truly fear. Sufficiently massive non-participation would seriously degrade the currency and social credibility of Theire claims to legitimacy. That is why Theye fear it - and that, in turn, is why Theye must resort to (falsely) asserting co-option of non-participation (à la "if you don't vote, you have no right to complain," etc., etc.).

Campbell's Law also applies here: "You can't do just one thing."

If motivated by actual opposition rather than mere apathy, mass popular non-participation would be symptomized by much, much more than merely "not voting." You have already mentioned "mass civil disobedience." There would also be "mass active non-compliance," "mass vocal dissent & denunciation of Themme," etc., etc. (perhaps even including or culminating in openly violent resistance to Themme).

In other words, "not voting" is not sensibly to be understood as the cause of mass opposition to Themme, but rather as just one more effect or expression of such opposition. Participation is deleterious to the cause of opposition - it plays right into Theire hands, and it redounds to Theire benefit. This is why voting for or otherwise "supporting" Trump (or any other Clowne) in any way - even if only for "entertainment" purposes - is counterproductive. It allows Themme to claim legitimacy (whether that was intended by the participants or not) and it sluices opposition into "safe" channels (which may pose cosmetic challenges, but no fundamental dangers, to Themme).


Nice response. Kudos, as usual.

My question then is this: how bad would things have to become to drive numbers to these sorts of acts? Is there ANY level of degradation beyond which the mean American would finally hoist himself up and say, "ENOUGH!", and actually stand by it?
 
Are we not yet tried of the guarantee of the same old thing?

Honestly at this point I''m done wasting my cycles on the process at the national level. My new political philosophy isn't anarchism or libertarianism, it's chokemism. I won't vote for anyone that I can't drive down the road and the choke the shit out of 'em when they do or say something stupid... Or at least yell obscenities at them, spread vicious rumors about them or roll their lawn.
 
Honestly at this point I''m done wasting my cycles on the process at the national level. My new political philosophy isn't anarchism or libertarianism, it's chokemism. I won't vote for anyone that I can't drive down the road and the choke the shit out of 'em when they do or say something stupid... Or at least yell obscenities at them, spread vicious rumors about them or roll their lawn.

The problem i see is that by voting for the lesser evil, you're endorsing every bat shit crazy idea they've ever have had or will have. They don't see themselves as the lesser evil.
 
So now we are either on the side of the Bolsheviks or the Fascists. :rolleyes:

Well sure, because there is only two choices...ever. Bolsheviks or Fascists. Nationalists or Globalists. Right or Left. The boot size is the same.
 
OH please the bible thumper shows up talking about "life" when he calls for people to be executed because of who they sleep with. Then supports someone who wants to make the "sand glow" in the middle east. You don't give a shit about life, you just like to use it as an excuse for the government to seize more power.

Executing the guilty isn't anti-life. Admittedly "pro-life" is a slogan but we all know what it means.

I agree that making sand glow in the middle east is an evil thing to say. But I don't believe for a second that Trump would not do that as well. I'm also not "supporting" Ted Cruz. I've already been quite clear that I do not support ANY candidate. I happen to think Cruz would be less terrible than Trump. That's all I'm saying.

Magisterial authority has gotten way out of whack, I want them to have far less. Though admittedly still more than an ancap. If you support Trump I want more limited government than you :p
 
Honestly at this point I''m done wasting my cycles on the process at the national level. My new political philosophy isn't anarchism or libertarianism, it's chokemism. I won't vote for anyone that I can't drive down the road and the choke the shit out of 'em when they do or say something stupid... Or at least yell obscenities at them, spread vicious rumors about them or roll their lawn.

Meritorious.
 
So now we are either on the side of the Bolsheviks or the Fascists. :rolleyes:

Putting words into mouths that have not spoken them is not righteous. What mention did I make of either? The previous mention of Bolsheviks I took as a literary device meaning the bad men who hold no interest in you save that you obey them.

Perhaps we should all write-in Hitler? T'would make about as much sense as any of the others.
 
So now we are either on the side of the Bolsheviks or the Fascists. :rolleyes:
But we already have fascism. Eliminating 1 out of 2 is a start.

If you support Trump, then you are not eliminating one of the two; you are supporting one of the two.

So now we are either on the side of the Bolsheviks or the Fascists. :rolleyes:
Well sure, because there is only two choices...ever. Bolsheviks or Fascists. Nationalists or Globalists. Right or Left. The boot size is the same.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to phill4paul again.
 
Not infallible. Innocents will still be executed. And now you introduce the additional possibility that people falsely convicted of lying would be executed.

Yes they will....

Trump:

“I would be very, very firm with families,” he added. “Frankly, that will make people think, because they may not care much about their lives, but they do care, believe it or not, about their families’ lives.”
 
Paul ain't running. Pick your destroyer because the Bolsheviks are sure to pick one for you.
There's nothing stopping me (yet) from voting for Ron (or Rand) Paul. I think cycle's vote will go to Ron, since I didn't wake up until 2010. Man 2007/2008 must have been exciting as fuck. This way I can honestly tell people I voted for Ron Paul, twice. This "election" is fucking ridiculous.
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Fatuous twaddle like this is why Donald Trump is the system's Jack Kevorkian ...

Picking your destroyer is suicide. Someone else picking your destroyer is murder.

People don't fight against self-chosen suicide. They do against other-chosen murder.

And for some reason, AuH20 et al. want us to volunteer for our own euthanasia ...

Quoted for truth. Not much of a choice.
 
Yes they will....

Trump:

“I would be very, very firm with families,” he added. “Frankly, that will make people think, because they may not care much about their lives, but they do care, believe it or not, about their families’ lives.”

Of course I don't agree with Trump on this and many other issues (And besides, they're already killing terrorists' families - bombing entire wedding parties and funerals, indiscriminately killing everyone. You think that will stop with Hillary or any of the other puppets?), but I look at it this way:

America has cancer and Trump is the chemotherapy that will eliminate the tumors but destroy some healthy cells in the process. But do nothing and the patient dies.
 
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