Im voting for Obama. Guess why?

You should probably shut up and stop flaming the guy, especially when you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. No one can see into the future, so to claim he's wrong (ultimately simply because you disagree with him) is ridiculous. It may well be that Obama's victory will help our movement. You don't know.

So once again, shut up, stop being arrogant and condescending, and leave the poor guy alone. It's his decision to do what he thinks is best.

How is that flaming? I am curious about the guy's age/naivete.

Sheesh. He can do whatever he wants. I didn't give him any advice nor, unlike your post to me, tell him what he should or should not do.

Good one.

ps. And how do you know I disagree with him? I didn't give my opinion one way or another.
 
Trust me, your 0.00...01% will look a lot bigger added to a third party candidate than added to B.O's total, and will make a bigger impact. A vote for barack sends the message that the people want more socialism. Let's send the right message -- people want more freedom.

Plus there's the whole doing the right thing bit, and voting for what you believe in, instead of being a calculating sneaky political shrew. That ranks pretty high for me, but to each his/her own.
 
What is this with the pro-Obama posts all the sudden?

Want to vote for Obama? They got their own websites and forums.
 
Because I want the Dems to win. Look at what they are inherting! Let them run amock. We dont have a choice anyway.

It makes sense to me. Why try to battle an republican incumbent? Let the Dems screw things up. It will make it easier for us in four more years. (less than that really)

In the next four our rights and finances will be worse off and maybe people will start looking for real solutions... maybe.

I would like to tow the Paul line and vote for Baldwin. The folks in my RP community are shocked. Truth of the matter is, I dont care for Baldwin much and I dont want McCain to win. I dont like McCain (although I do like Palin) and FUCK the GOP. We were treated like retards with STD's throughout this political cycle.

You know, I would have carried the party line had we been treated fairly.. or at least acknowledged. Ive been treated better while recieving wedgies.

So thats it. Im decided. I will support RP until my last breath. Strategically, I think its smarter for me to throw my vote behind the Dem Douchebag so we can build our candidate to win in 2012.


don't do it, parke... you've got to vote for the right reasons, not with the same fear, confusion and anger that has led many, many elections to result in the 'status quo' feeling confident that the 'status quo' was still being selected and was safe to continue... let them know it's not safe, for themselves or others.

Because you know it's not safe now - you know that McCain or Obama winning isn't going to 'change' anything or 'keep things safe.' Like Ron Paul said at the rally, once you know these things, you have an important responsibility to do everything you can to make a difference.

Voting for Obama or McCain doesn't make a difference - I know you feel hopeless, and I know you're probably burnt out... take a week off politics to clear your head and heart and get your strength back up. You might not even need an entire week... try a few days of 'defragging.'

After your system is cleared up a bit, the first things you should read up on are the text transcripts of Obama's speech in Israel about Iran... and then read up on his plans for mandated civil service. So that you know voting for him is actually not the 'lesser of two evils', ironically enough! Crappy a candidate as McCain is (based on his view of the role of government, not him personally), Obama is seriously the more dangerous (based on his views of the role of government, not him personally), and definitely the one the establishment would love to see win so they could force things right in as quick as they did those bailouts.

Please review Obama's choices for his administration to get an idea of where things head with him and how much more quickly they reach there - even if for only a short time, as both Obama and McCain have inherited an unsustainable mess that is actually in the final stages of complete collapse on numerous levels.

You don't want to look future generations in the eyes knowing you helped the establishment, be it with good intentions or with bad intentions, or both, maintain their reign over everyone for 'just a little longer.' In times like these, it's even more important to adhere to the wisdom of the principles this nation was founded upon, and it's even more important to rise up and defend your rights, and as corny as this might sound at first, it's vital that everything you do politically reflect the truth, the love, the logic, the compassion, and the real changes you'd like to live by, in harmony with your government.

That you'd like the inhabitants of this nation to be able to witness in action one day. You know the common sense of Ron Paul - he's been right on just about everything - and even when he had to vote alone, he did it because it was right. And he did it for decades. Your decades start now, and you don't and won't be voting alone on this, but vote every time as if you are, because what if Ron Paul had given up and never been that one, lone voice of reason in congress the many times he was? Where would we be had he not set the example and then explained why he voted the way he did? Read his congressional speech about Rosa Parks... the role of government has been horribly mangled, and they used our best attributes (love, honor) to manipulate us into doing things through government that created a path to EVERYTHING being done through government.


The principles have got to make a comeback first and foremost - and the biggest comeback they have to make is within each of us, individually, so that we can avoid prolonging the destruction of not only this nation, but the world.

Vote with compassion for those in government(s) who are seeking guidance from the population... they know that something is wrong, too! Give them hope, give them substance, give them your honest vote.

/end gigantic, way too wordy appeal
 
Because I want the Dems to win. Look at what they are inherting! Let them run amock. We dont have a choice anyway.

It makes sense to me. Why try to battle an republican incumbent? Let the Dems screw things up. It will make it easier for us in four more years. (less than that really)

In the next four our rights and finances will be worse off and maybe people will start looking for real solutions... maybe.

I would like to tow the Paul line and vote for Baldwin. The folks in my RP community are shocked. Truth of the matter is, I dont care for Baldwin much and I dont want McCain to win. I dont like McCain (although I do like Palin) and FUCK the GOP. We were treated like retards with STD's throughout this political cycle.

You know, I would have carried the party line had we been treated fairly.. or at least acknowledged. Ive been treated better while recieving wedgies.

So thats it. Im decided. I will support RP until my last breath. Strategically, I think its smarter for me to throw my vote behind the Dem Douchebag so we can build our candidate to win in 2012.

Are you thinking that everything stems on the Presidential race and everything else is inconsequential? Because there are a heck of a lot of other positions we could fill, besides President and many of those will come up way before 2012.

Please stop thinking that the only thing going is the Presidential race.
 
I don't see the point of Ron Paul supporters voting for either McCain or Obama at this point, unless for some reason you are actually for them. It's a done deal. If the current polls showing Obama far ahead hold or widen by late October, just vote third party. I don't think this is going to be another razor thin election that's decided by one or two states or a handful of votes. Throwing votes into an Obama landslide or wasting them on McCain in some vain hope that he would win is not worth it.
 
Parke,

I'm not going to flame you - definitely going to advise you to vote for your beliefs and how you want this country to be run.

Neither of the main party candidates are acting in the best interests of the American public, the bailout vote showed that - they don't deserve your vote. The Democrats are in the pocket of big business and Wall Street as much as the Republicans are, if not more.

If you don't like Baldwin or McCain, write in RP - then spend the next 4 years doing what you can for real liberty and prosperity in America, encouraging voter awareness, civic responsibility and discussion of actual issues rather than talking points. Trust me, your conscience will have a better time of it in the long run.
 
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Dr. Paul encourages everyone to vote 3rd party. Therefore, I'm voting third party because I fully support Dr. Paul.

I refuse to have a moral stake in the actions of the next republican or democrat president.
 
Because I want the Dems to win. Look at what they are inherting! Let them run amock. We dont have a choice anyway.

It makes sense to me. Why try to battle an republican incumbent? Let the Dems screw things up. It will make it easier for us in four more years. (less than that really)

In the next four our rights and finances will be worse off and maybe people will start looking for real solutions... maybe.

I would like to tow the Paul line and vote for Baldwin. The folks in my RP community are shocked. Truth of the matter is, I dont care for Baldwin much and I dont want McCain to win. I dont like McCain (although I do like Palin) and FUCK the GOP. We were treated like retards with STD's throughout this political cycle.

You know, I would have carried the party line had we been treated fairly.. or at least acknowledged. Ive been treated better while recieving wedgies.

So thats it. Im decided. I will support RP until my last breath. Strategically, I think its smarter for me to throw my vote behind the Dem Douchebag so we can build our candidate to win in 2012.

Guess Why? Hmmmmm you're an idiot. Could that be?
 
The folks in here who are voting for Obama are probably in college livin at mama and daddy's house. Obama became the trend for the youth after Ron Paul didn't do so well in the primaries. My hope is these college kids who tout OBAMAAA...will get drunk before election day and be too hung over to go to the polls. That's pretty typical. Now, I would say there are plenty of closet Obama supporters right here on this forum...but they don't DARE actually admit it for fear of blowback..lol it just ain't cooollll mann. Tones , on the other hand, has supported McCain/Palin at the risk of being ostracised because I'm honest and I gave it a lot of thought. If Ron Paul had really wanted me to vote 3rd party...he would have run on the Independent ticket. Obama is a communist...if you want to lose what little bit of freedom we have left..vote Obama or 3rd party..so it waters down the GOP. You must understand, the grassroots GOP is where our movement will spring from...those who still honor the Founders, Liberty and the Constitution and Bill of Rights. The communist left wants to get RID of the Constitution and have the governmetn control everything. I don't understand why you don't get this concept. tones
 
Funny, I've been on this forum a long time and I don't see an Obama supporter under every rock and lilly pad. I see a bunch of people here who don't like either of those Constitution-hating socialists one bit.
 
I'll say it again. The GOP GRASSROOTS is where our movement will grow. The communist secular progressives dispise the Founding fathers ...and the minorities do too. They see them as rich white men ...you know , the blue eyed devils , who loved slavery and wanted to oppress them. Can't you figure this out? Elect Obama and forget this Liberty movement. Our hope to restore liberty and hold onto our Constitution rests with the grassroots republicans. Tones
 
I've seen this liberty movement survive Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. TPTB wishes Obama could kill it. But as we all know, wishes are neither horses nor fishes...

I think you're crying wolf.
 
NO WAY...Obama is the epitomy of communism...look at his associates! Bill Ayers and more. Straight out of the communist party. Obama has effectively used the race card to further his career..and I don't like that. The Constitution will protect EVERYONE..but that is NOT what is being put forth by the communist secular progressives..and the communist party has ALWAYS used minorities and oppression of them to further their agenda. Please...go to Freedom Force..g Edward Griffin's website and look for the videos. There is a very effective video of him lecturing all the way back in 1969 about the agenda and techniques used by the communist party to take down our Republic. Using the black people's struggle is a huge way they did it. The Black Panthers were all members of the communist party. This is CRUEL and UNJUST to USE people like that! Tones
 
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