"I'm not going to die at Arby's tonight. I'm just not."

[amonasro]

The man just wanted more Arby's Sauce. The delicious combination of ketchup and barbecue sauce make people go mad.

 

[jay_dub]

Theres many reasons why Arbys fired her. First, she repeatedly violated their safety protocols despite being robbed many times. In that case, shes a huge liability. Surely, that was explained to her. Second, its a common practice that thiefs work with someone on the inside to get the job done. She was probably working with the thief.

Totally agree with you on the first point. The cost to Arby's had she been hurt or killed would have been tremendous. They have to have protocols in place to satisfy their insurance company.

I disagree on the second point. There is nothing to indicate she was working with the thief.

My wife is a store manager. There is a protocol for almost everything. The point someone made earlier about her having no choice in being alone due to the company not giving enough hours is shown to be false as another employee had just left. The protocol was likely that closing employees leave at the same time.

You would think that, after 23 years, this lady would have known better. Arby's did nothing wrong in firing her.

 

[VoluntaryAmerican]

Being alone in the restaurant is also a policy violation, actually.

And my experience with corps like CKE, BK, Wendy's, Darden, etc, is that write-ups may stay in the record, but they are generally only considered for repeat offenses within 12 month unless it is a much broader pattern.

My experience with this policy is that it's bullshit (same policy different corp.). Though this Arby's seems to be taking it seriously because they live in a bad neighborhood. But 23 years of work and she broke the rule 3 times, I've broken this policy nearly everyday I worked at a corporation and the store manager broke the rule too.

Often these corporations have rules that make it hard for anyone to get work done, especially when they cut back hours, and expect similar results.

 

[AGRP]

You would think that, after 23 years, this lady would have known better. Arby's did nothing wrong in firing her.

23 years of being aware of protocols. Of course I cant prove she was working with the thief (not financially worth it either for the restaurant) , but its a logical theory. It happens virtually everywhere. Banks, casinos, even at restaurants. Bottom line is shes a huge liability and either she is incredibly stupid by letting thieves in (was it a glass door? do back doors not have peep holes? is it not a big no no to open back doors at that hour?) or she knows them and plays the victim after the fact. A woman like her pushing a guy with a knife away, fleeing, and jumping out the drive through window (while suffering no injuries) seems like a far fetched scenario. Let me guess, the guy got the money before she ran away.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

My experience with this policy is that it's bullshit (same policy different corp.). Though this Arby's seems to be taking it seriously because they live in a bad neighborhood. But 23 years of work and she broke the rule 3 times, I've broken this policy nearly everyday I worked at a corporation and the store manager broke the rule too.

Often these corporations have rules that make it hard for anyone to get work done, especially when they cut back hours, and expect similar results.

Well, if a District manager has any leeway on enforcing policy, it would seem natural that security policy would be enforced more heavily in a more dangerous store location, and less heavily in a less dangerous location.

 

[jay_dub]

23 years of being aware of protocols. Of course I cant prove she was working with the thief (not financially worth it either for the restaurant) , but its a logical theory. It happens virtually everywhere. Banks, casinos, even at restaurants. Bottom line is shes a huge liability and either she is incredibly stupid by letting thieves in (was it a glass door? do back doors not have peep holes? is it not a big no no to open back doors at that hour?) or she knows them and plays the victim after the fact. A woman like her pushing a guy with a knife away, fleeing, and jumping out the drive through window (while suffering no injuries) seems like a far fetched scenario. Let me guess, the guy got the money before she ran away.

You could be right. She is a little chubby to imagine crawling out the drive-thru. It's just that my mind doesn't go there first. She doesn't 'look' to be the criminal type, but you never know.

Maybe we'll see a follow-up where she gets arrested. Stranger things have happened.

 

[AGRP]

Well, if a District manager has any leeway on enforcing policy, it would seem natural that security policy would be enforced more heavily in a more dangerous store location, and less heavily in a less dangerous location.

Not only that, but personally. Imagine your store is a known target and your life is on the line. I dont care who you are. You are going to follow those rules if you value your life. She didnt care.

 

[chudrockz]

I almost always carry a knife, and I have significantly longer reach than most folks. If I was faced with a would-be attacker armed with a knife, I'd stab him.

 

[Pericles]

I wish this was a story about a perp bringing a knife to a gun fight.

So do I, but we all know that armed (or any other) self defense is also a violation of company policy.

 

[squarepusher]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-now/arby-manager-fired-escaping-armed-robbery-170812916.html

So many things wrong with that article. I say it smells lawsuit all over it.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

It was mentioned in the video. If someone just read the story, it might not be picked up. I guess Gunny and others do have a point. Maybe there should have been a camera aimed at the door if the person inside the store wasn't able to see who was on the other side of the door. I don't know how this store worked. There might have been a window or peep hole that she could have looked through.

There always is, as is my understanding. It's a serious safety concern to have doors where you have no idea who is on the other side. That's how it worked when I worked at Burger King. If it was a first offense, I could understand keeping her and trying to educate her a little more, but seeing as she failed at this a few times, she brought it on herself, cameras or no cameras.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Being alone in the restaurant is also a policy violation, actually.

And my experience with corps like CKE, BK, Wendy's, Darden, etc, is that write-ups may stay in the record, but they are generally only considered for repeat offenses within 12 month unless it is a much broader pattern.

Good point. The store had been robbed 2 times before that within a 6 month period. She was a manager. Managers should know this stuff. She should have known better than to open the door without looking.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Yes, but that is not why she was fired and had nothing to do with her previous violation. Again you are lazy with the facts and have the nerve to call this woman lazy who is lucky to be alive.

Actually, it is why she was fired. And yes, it does have something to do with her previous violation; namely, being alone in a store at night. They are very closely related policy matters.

You already said that the video did not say that. Now, after being corrected, you are changing your story.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Ricky, I completely disagree with you on this. I do agree with Aurave, though. Arby's should be legally allowed to fire this employee. I have been both a bottom level employee and someone is a supervisor position. I don't hold anything against this worker. I don't feel she is a bad worker. I'm glad that it is OK to fire her.

It is unfortunate that she let the robber in the place. It is unfortunate the she has a pattern of not following policy. It is unfortunate that she has a pattern of going against company policy. It is unfortunate that the store was robbed. I am glad that she is alive. I feel for everyone involved!

BTW, I am sorry that RickyJ went so low as to give me negative rep. I have not received negative rep since Sailingaway negative repped me for accurately predicting that Ron Paul would not win the popular vote in any state according to the official results. I was correct, though I was unfairly punished by Sailingaway. Now I am being punished by RickyJ. Why is he punishing me? I don't know. Maybe he hates freedom. Maybe he is clueless. Maybe he is a bad person. Maybe he just likes to cause trouble.

I ask that RickyJ both apologize and positive rep me. It is the right thing to do. It is the fair thing to do. It is human thing to do.

People saying this was wrong are just making an appeal to emotion like the liberals they are. Don't let anyone tell you any different. Unfortunate? Yes. Unjustified? Absolutely not. Policy is policy and corporate will do whatever they feel will make them the most money. Having a heart for victims who seem to be prone to danger isn't a very profitable policy.

 

[Dr.3D]

So do I, but we all know that armed (or any other) self defense is also a violation of company policy.

Yeah, company policy is for the person to get killed and for the thief to take the money and run.

Seems to me, that is why thieves like the idea of robbing those places so much. If they actually thought they could die doing it, they would probably think twice about robbing those places.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Yeah, company policy is for the person to get killed and for the thief to take the money and run.

Seems to me, that is why thieves like the idea of robbing those places so much. If they actually thought they could die doing it, they would probably think twice about robbing those places.

Uh, no. Policy is to not let the thief in.

 

[Dr.3D]

Uh, no. Policy is to not let the thief in.

Yeah, that works every time.

 

[Keith and stuff]

Yeah, that works every time.

I wasn't there so I don't know exactly what happened. Here is how I picture it in my head. The robber rings the doorbell. She opens the door. I agree that the robber might have been able to break in. However, in this case, it seems that he rung the doorbell and she let him in. I am glad that she is safe. I am sorry that she was fired. However, it seems she did nothing to try to protect Arby's at all. It seems she let a robber in the store and then left the store. On top of that, she violated company policy.

 

[Dr.3D]

I wasn't there so I don't know exactly what happened. Here is how I picture it in my head. The robber rings the doorbell. She opens the door. I agree that the robber might have been able to break in. However, in this case, it seems that he rung the doorbell and she let him in. I am glad that she is safe. I am sorry that she was fired. However, it seems she did nothing to try to protect Arby's at all. It seems she left a robber in the store and then left the store. On top of that, she violated company policy.

That's the difference between her and myself. I would have been fired for shooting the son of a bitch.

 

[alucard13mmfmj]

WoW 23 years at Arbys... Man.. That must kinda suck O_O.