I'm a Romney Supporter and I Have a Message for All of You

Dan Chisholm

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Hello everyone,

I have been coming to this site on and off with different login names for a couple years now. I am a huge political junkie and I try to stay informed about what all of the potential candidate's supporters are doing. That said, I am an avid Romney supporter and certainly one of the most influential Romney grassroots supporters.

I have a couple of messages for all of you in regards to a few things.

1. In regards to the NPR March Madness poll, I want to congratulate all of you on winning the battle in such a convincing manner. We knew we couldn't beat all of you in a wide-open war, so we lulled you to sleep and gambled as to when the poll would end. If it had ended at midnight on the 29th, we would've won, but alas our gamble didn't pay off and you all took the day. We do have more support than you give us credit for, and though my various accounts on Facebook, I was able to send out thousands of messages about the poll.

2. As far as who started the cheating, my fellow Romney supporters and I were convinced that ya'll started the botting first, and I guess we'll never know, but there was a time during the early part of the poll where Romney had been winning legitimately and then Ron Paul shot up very fast. Speaking for myself, I never even knew how to spam polls (but I was always curious), and I came on this forum to see if I could somehow learn how it is done. I found a few posts telling different ways to do it and I couldn't help but try to see if it really worked since I had been wondering for years. I admit I got a bit carried away with it, and I apologize for that.

3. There are no hard feelings about the poll itself since both sides thought they were retaliating to cheating and ultimately, you all won. Also, we admire your grassroots machine and we wish we had even half of the organization as you. I tried to put together a mass fundraising day last year and was able to raise a grand total of just over $100,000 but that is dwarfed in comparison to your huge money bombs. My major problem is that I don't know how to harvest E-Mails and I'm not very good at making websites or YouTube videos.

4. There are a few common attacks that Ron Paulites make about Mitt Romney that I want to address. First, as one of the largest Mitt Romney grassroots supporters on the net, I don't like it when people claim that I or any of my fellow supporters are being paid to support Mitt. I definitely don't get a dime for any of the countless hours of work I do for Mitt. Next, I was at CPAC this year and there was nothing shady whatsoever with the straw poll. There were no "buses of mormons" coming from Utah for the vote or anything else like that. Also, Mitt's speech was the mist highly attended and it was very apparent he had the most support of anyone on the ballot there (I went to Ron Paul's campaign for liberty event as well). Also, during one of the debates, a lot was made about Romney having an earpiece and getting answers to questions that way. That could not be true because if a microphone was able to pick up the audio coming from an earpiece, Mitt Romney's eardrum would have exploded so it was have come from one of the moderators or candidates on stage. Finally, I am not Mormon or a neo-con. Most supporters of Mitt that I know are neither. We don't view Mitt as anything near to McCain when it comes to wanting to fight wars. I don't believe Mitt would've sent us to war with Iraq if he had been president instead of Bush, but I obviously have no proof for that.

5. I also like a lot of Ron Paul's ideas, but when I was looking for a candidate during the spring of 2007, I heard Ron Paul say he didn't plan on winning and wasn't really even trying to. I also could see from the type of campaign Huckabee was running that he wasn't putting together the appropriate groundwork to signify how serious he was. Therefore, I liked having them in the debates, but I couldn't throw my support behind them because I view there as being a huge difference between a candidate like Mitt Romney and a Obama. I know a lot of you do not agree, but if Mitt can do for the entire country what he did in Mass. we will all be in such better shape than we are. Graduating valedictorian of his class at Harvard is insane, and the amount of money he was able to make by creating his own company at Bain is astounding. Mitt wasn't able to do that because of his daddy or anything either. Mitt is a self-made man to be sure which is another ridiculous charge made against Mitt.

6. Finally, I hope you all can agree that this last poll was the most interesting and competitive online poll you've been in. I hope that you all had as much fun as we did, and I am completely earnest and sincere when I say that there are many issues that our two camps can agree on and I would be honored to fight along side with you in the many battles we will fight together in the future.

P.S. if you are wondering what some of those battles are, I support many of the candidates like Rand Paul and Peter Schiff that I know you all support in 2010. I also would love to see Ron Paul as governor of Texas. Anyway, please feel free at anytime to let me know how my fellow Mittheads and I can assist you all. We are in some very dark days right now, but if we focus on where we agree, together, we can make America's future brighter.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1260660082 is my facebook account and probably the easiest way to contact me.
 
As a Romney supporter, we knew that would only respect "strength" not words, so this praise from you for our great victory comes as no surprise.

Romney made a habit of mocking Dr Paul during the debates, which he needs to apologize for.

Also, Mitt might actually get more respect from us if he decided to follow the Constitution and call for the end of the federal war on drugs, as well as renouncing global warmongering. Get back to us when he changes his views to reflect the US Constitution and to respect the wishes of the Founding Fathers.

Thanks.
 
That was a respectful and nice message, Dan.

I agree with you that some of the supporters probably agree on a lot. But, to be honest with you, I don't think Mitt holds the principles that you seem to believe he does.
 
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but if Mitt can do for the entire country what he did in Mass. we will all be in such better shape than we are

What did Mitt do for Mass? Institute a mandatory health-insurance scheme? Put in place additional, unavoidable government "fees" and close tax "loopholes"? He certainly didn't cut state spending; in fact he raised it by over $5 billion annually. Romney might not be as "bad" as Obama but he's in the same league.
 
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Thank you for your kind words, Mr. Chisolm. Yes, we will never know who fired the first bot, so to speak. Good contest.

Many will disagree with some of your statements, of course. I don't think their health care system or the Big Dig much encourage us to want the nation as a whole to look like Massachusetts, for example. And while Mitt has undoubtedly worked hard and been anything but a spoiled layabout, I doubt that he could have gotten quite as far as he has without the springboard his father gave him in a society which is increasingly developing economic strata. But, again, I can no more prove that than you can prove your war theory. I am pleased we disagree respectfully, and I hope everyone who responds to this thread will remain in respectful mode. If they do not, I apologize.

We would love to work with y'all to end the current abuses, or at least I would. Thanks again for dropping by!
 
BTW, why isn't Mitt doing something useful with his time now? Doesn't GM need a new CEO...?
 
Do not forget his lotto scheme

What did Mitt do for Mass? Institute a mandatory health-insurance scheme? Raise unavoidable government "fees" and close tax "loopholes"? He certainly didn't cut state spending; in fact he raised it by over 5 billion annually. Romney might not be as "bad" as Obama but he's in the same league.

10 and 20 dollar tickets that still have not paid off. Free loans to the government til evey last ticket is sold, its been years.
 
As a Romney supporter, we knew that would only respect "strength" not words, so this praise from you for our great victory comes as no surprise.

Romney made a habit of mocking Dr Paul during the debates, which he needs to apologize for.

Also, Mitt might actually get more respect from us if he decided to follow the Constitution and call for the end of the federal war on drugs, as well as renouncing global warmongering. Get back to us when he changes his views to reflect the US Constitution and to respect the wishes of the Founding Fathers.

Thanks.

1. Mitt never said he likes mandates. I think you are getting confused with "I like vetoes". The mandates in his health care package were the result of the democratically controlled congress in his state and not part of his plan.

2. I believe that Mitt is closer to Ron Paul on some things that you all realize, but he doesn't focus on them because they are not politically smart moves to make (yet), but that is why I hope Ron Paul's ideas continue to gain momentum so politics can be more about ideas than attacks.

3. I agree Mitt shouldn't have laughed at Ron Paul at one of the debates because I actually agreed with Ron Paul on that and was surprised to see Mitt laugh like that. However, after thinking about it, I realized that Mitt does so much work to prepare for the debates, that I think the laughter was his way of reacting to a question he hadn't prepared for. I think it was more of a nervous reaction/unconscious stall tactic than an attempt to belittle Ron Paul. In fact, here in Michigan, when questioned off-the-air by a Ron Paul supporter at an event I was at, Mitt expressed a lot of fondness for Ron Paul as someone who has no ulterior motives and just wants his ideas heard.
 
BTW, why isn't Mitt doing something useful with his time now? Doesn't GM need a new CEO...?

Just because his father ran AMC doesn't mean he knows anything about cars...

People, we didn't want Dr. Paul held responsible for some of our excesses in the past, and we shouldn't hold Mr. Romney's supporters responsible for some of his excesses...

Can we be as respectful as Mr. Chisolm is to us?
 
I agree Mitt shouldn't have laughed at Ron Paul at one of the debates because I actually agreed with Ron Paul on that and was surprised to see Mitt laugh like that. However, after thinking about it, I realized that Mitt does so much work to prepare for the debates, that I think the laughter was his way of reacting to a question he hadn't prepared for. I think it was more of a nervous reaction/unconscious stall tactic than an attempt to belittle Ron Paul. In fact, here in Michigan, when questioned off-the-air by a Ron Paul supporter at an event I was at, Mitt expressed a lot of fondness for Ron Paul as someone who has no ulterior motives and just wants his ideas heard.

I can guarantee you one thing: if Mitt apologized to Dr Paul, it would go a long way. Also, he should sit down with Dr Paul for lunch to talk economics and the Constitution. Why don't you suggest those things to him?
 
Dan no hard feelings. Romney has serious credibility issues though...I mean come on Romney care in Mass., doesn't know whether he's pro-life or pro-choice, and consulting lawyers about going to war. I mean the man just smells of opportunistic politician who couldn't give a damn about principles.
 
Just because his father ran AMC doesn't mean he knows anything about cars...

What are you talking about? Romney is an expert on turning around failing companies. It's how he got rich. I am quite serious about the GM thing. That was a compliment to Romney, not a swipe. God knows he would be better than whomever Obama is going to try to put into that CEO role.
 
I was constantly amused with the press and Mitt claiming that he was experienced in the auto industry. Mitt's daddy was the head of American Motors. I don't think that qualifies as legitimate experience.
 
BTW, why isn't Mitt doing something useful with his time now? Doesn't GM need a new CEO...?

As a Romney supporter, we knew that would only respect "strength" not words, so this praise from you for our great victory comes as no surprise.

Romney made a habit of mocking Dr Paul during the debates, which he needs to apologize for.

Also, Mitt might actually get more respect from us if he decided to follow the Constitution and call for the end of the federal war on drugs, as well as renouncing global warmongering. Get back to us when he changes his views to reflect the US Constitution and to respect the wishes of the Founding Fathers.

Thanks.

Can you lighten up on the antagonism a bit? Good grief.

Dan --- Dialogue is always a good thing, and I'm happy to see others opinions on the boards. We are certainly far apart on how our candidates interpret the constitution it appears, but that is a gap I feel we can close.

RP folks are very principles-based, as I am sure many Romney supporters are, so we're a tough group to budge in any direction that is anti-freedom or pro-big government.

Welcome to the board.
 
The thought of having to listen to another year of 2011-12 debates with Romney on stage spewing "jihadism" buzzwords and pandering is enough to make me sick. Romney do us a favor and don't do it.
 
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