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Man that's bush league... this is the first time i've voted so I wasn't aware but I'm not sure why it matters really if its open because the local elections (dominated by Dems) are way more important than anything else to the citizens of Chicago.

Which means we probably got fucked in crossover support.
 
Man that's bush league... this is the first time i've voted so I wasn't aware but I'm not sure why it matters really if its open because the local elections (dominated by Dems) are way more important than anything else to the citizens of Chicago.

Which means we probably got fucked in crossover support.

True. But this is not unique to Chicago or Illinois. In any area that is dominated by Democrats, the Democratic Primary is more important than the General Election (since the dems always win local elections like 80/20). People have a hard time giving up their right to vote for all the local elections just to vote for Paul.
 
Also, if you are near Champaign/Urbana, Bloomington/Normal or any other large University within the target districts, do not be afraid to literally go to the campus and walk around and get people to the polls for Ron Paul.

Oh, there's already an organized effort to do this. The campaign, and the grassroots, all Ron Paul supporters, already know that 18-29 men, especially, all like Ron Paul, but they don't always vote. So, because they know this, they're doing Extra GOTV to get our people (even if we haven't identified them beforehand) to the polls.

Just kidding. But, boy, wouldn't it be great if we did that, you know, things that make you win.

What are the precinct names for the big colleges. So that in a few hours I can express outrage that Ron Paul got some tiny fraction of the total number of students on campus. And someone else can say that we shouldn't "target" students because they "don't vote", and then I can say "we didn't spend money getting them to the polls, we spent money targeting with our phone from home supervoters who typically are older and don't like Ron Paul quite as much as the younguns do.

It's been a week since I've had this argument, so I'm needing my fix.
 
Yea, this is a big problem for Ron Paul in Illinois. There are lots of people who like Ron Paul but are just too embarrassed to vote on a Republican Ballot. I have literally encountered hundreds of such people in the past few months while promoting Paul.

Is "embarrassed" the right word? I would find it "icky" or "stomach turning" to vote D.
 
Oh, there's already an organized effort to do this. The campaign, and the grassroots, all Ron Paul supporters, already know that 18-29 men, especially, all like Ron Paul, but they don't always vote. So, because they know this, they're doing Extra GOTV to get our people (even if we haven't identified them beforehand) to the polls.

Just kidding. But, boy, wouldn't it be great if we did that, you know, things that make you win.

What are the precinct names for the big colleges. So that in a few hours I can express outrage that Ron Paul got some tiny fraction of the total number of students on campus. And someone else can say that we shouldn't "target" students because they "don't vote", and then I can say "we didn't spend money getting them to the polls, we spent money targeting with our phone from home supervoters who typically are older and don't like Ron Paul quite as much as the younguns do.

It's been a week since I've had this argument, so I'm needing my fix.
I know I know.
Be nice for now though. Some of us have spent 1000's of dollars and 1000's of hours working to get a little piece of this state.
 
I live in Chicago and they would not allow me to vote for Paul unless I took the Republican ballot.

In other words, anyone who was a Democrat (you couldn't even pick Indy or Green, you were forced to pick GOP or DEM) in my ward was unable to vote for Paul if they choose to pick the Democratic ballot.

As much as I pissed and moan they refused to acknowledge that Illinois was an open primary and forced anyone who wanted to vote for Paul to pick up the GOP ballot (meaning they couldn't vote in any of the local elections which is more important to most of the people going out), it also means, at least in 1 ward in Chicago, we probably lost a lot of crossover votes.

For the record, this had nothing to do with fraud, these people were just straight up ignorant that Illinois was an open primary.

I guess the upside is anyone who wanted to vote for the other 3 frauds was faced with the same dilemma, but it hurts us more because we get more crossover than anyone else.

What? Ron Paul is on the Republican ballot. He's a Republican. So, if you want to vote for a Republican, you take the Republican ballot.
 
Voted for Paul and for all of Paul's Delegates. Although we are hurting big time in Illinois, it felt great to cast my vote for RP.

NOBP
 
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