Illegal Drugs

But how do you convince people that drugs should be legal?

Ask them if they ever did any drugs, and when they say yes, ask them if they turned themselves into the police. Then ask why not, etc?

Ask them if they think that YOU should go to jail for doing drugs. If they say no, ask them why not?

Ask them if they can name ANYONE who they personally know who they think should go to jail for using drugs.

I remember a time when I was watching this kid talk about how drugs should not be legal cause its so bad for society, etc... AS HE WAS SMOKING POT! I asked him to turn himself in... that didnt go over so well.

In the end, I got him to concede that drug laws were bad and I referred him to htp://www.leap.cc which is a FANTASTIC site :)
 
Weed has been tested and studied ad infinitum and found to have few ill effects. The pharmaceutical giants, however, dislike it. Look at the market and the money in anti-depressants. God invented weed, so they can't patent it. So, we pay taxes, ruin the lives of depression sufferers and stick our cops out in harm's way so the pharma-giants can make more money on their patent medicines. And if a poor sufferer from depression isn't on health insurance? So sorry, Charlie.
 
First you can say how it discriminates against the poor and minorities.

Next, you can say that the pharm companies lobby congress to decide whats legal and not.

You can point to the increase in violent crime from having prohibition, just look at alcohol. Ask them if they would stop drinking if alcohol became illegal (which kills more people than drugs).

the list goes on
 
from leap.cc :

After nearly four decades of fueling the U.S. policy of a war on drugs with over a trillion tax dollars and 37 million arrests for nonviolent drug offenses, our confined population has quadrupled making building prisons the fastest growing industry in the United States. More than 2.2 million of our citizens are currently incarcerated and every year we arrest an additional 1.9 million more guaranteeing those prisons will be bursting at their seams. Every year we choose to continue this war will cost U.S. taxpayers another 69 billion dollars. Despite all the lives we have destroyed and all the money so ill spent, today illicit drugs are cheaper, more potent, and far easier to get than they were 35 years ago at the beginning of the war on drugs. Meanwhile, people continue dying in our streets while drug barons and terrorists continue to grow richer than ever before. We would suggest that this scenario must be the very definition of a failed public policy. This madness must cease!

The stated goals of current U.S.drug policy -- reducing crime, drug addiction, and juvenile drug use -- have not been achieved, even after nearly four decades of a policy of "war on drugs". This policy, fueled by over a trillion of our tax dollars has had little or no effect on the levels of drug addiction among our fellow citizens, but has instead resulted in a tremendous increase in crime and in the numbers of Americans in our prisons and jails. With 4.6% of the world's population, America today has 22.5% of the worlds prisoners. But, after all that time, after all the destroyed lives and after all the wasted resources, prohibited drugs today are cheaper, stronger, and easier to get than they were thirty-five years ago at the beginning of the so-called "war on drugs". With this in mind, we current and former members of law enforcement have created a drug-policy reform movement -- LEAP. We believe that to save lives and lower the rates of disease, crime and addiction. as well as to conserve tax dollars, we must end drug prohibition. LEAP believes that a system of regulation and control of production and distribution will be far more effective and ethical than one of prohibition. We do this in hopes that we in Law Enforcement can regain the public's respect and trust, which have been greatly diminished by our involvement in imposing drug prohibition. Please consider joining us. You don't have to be a cop to join LEAP! Find out more about us by reading some of the articles in our Publications section or by watching and listening to some of our multimedia clips,. You can also read about the men and women who speak for LEAP, and see what we have on the calendar for the near future.
 
The federal govt spends $6 billion a year on the war on drugs and the percentage of drug users and drugs in the country has not gone down at all.

If we legalized the industrial use of hemp it would create $7 billion in revenue. Hemp produces 3 times as much ethanol as corn and is 2 to 3 times easier to maintain and produce and actually grows more prevelantly in northern colder climates.


Also explain to them the racial issue with the war on drugs and how racist it is.

17% of african americans are involved with drug dealing or using yet 67% of inmates convicted of minor drug offenses are Minorities.

The jail time for a small amount of crack is approx. 5 years. You would need 16 times more powder cocaine to get the same time. 82% of powder cocaine users/dealers are white whereas 87% of crack user/dealers are black. The punsihment is generally harsher towards african americans and the courts usually throw the book at them.

Also Ron Paul will not make drugs legal but he will de-regulate it at the federal level. So the federal govt will not be able to arrest citizens in states like California and conneticut where marijuanna is legal for medicinal use.
 
I am very good at arguing Dr.Paul's views with others. I have converted many of my friends. But there is only one argument I can never win, and that is on the war on drugs. I know that governement should not be able to tell you what drugs you can and cannot use but I have a hard time getting others to believe that were better off without government intervention in this aspect. What can i say to make people understand?

Countries in Europe which really do not have a strict prohibition on drugs actually have a lower rate of drug use than the US. The Netherlands is an excellent example.
 
You can point out that 1,986,467,953,234,679 drugs are legal and about 10 are not. DRUGS ARE ALREADY LEGAL for the most part.

Watching a COPS episode this weekend. This guy is walking behind a store and cop comes up to him and ask the guy can he search him, for no reason, the guy consents. They find a crack pipe on him and he is already on probation. Cop tells the guy this means you are looking at at least 1.5 years in prison for breaking probation. F'ing wonderful, the taxpayers are now going to spend over 100k on this guy keeping him alive in prison because he happened to get stopped by the cops and was searched. WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY. This guy was bothering no one.

O! admitted to using cocaine but because he wasn't caught he may very well be the next president of the United States. Had he had the misfortune of running into a cop he could be in prison instead of running for president. Bush used cocaine and he wasn't caught either. It is incredibly unfair to poor people because they live in areas where the cops bother residents where as they don't spend much time doing searches without a warrant on people living in Martha's Vineyard.

My biggest problem with Reagan is that he declared war on the American people when he declared a war on drugs.
 
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why should drugs be illegal? The drugs that the medical industry creates can be just as harmful, yet they remain legal.
 
http://forums.mapletip.com/index.php?showtopic=115797

I was debating with this antidrug guy and I pretty much got him. I also debate at school in my psychology class regarding drugs and my teacher is pretty much for legalizing drugs.

1. People will always do drugs no matter what
2. Legalizing drugs kills the black market that will lower gang violence and drug lords
3. Rehab is better than labeling something illegal
4. Education is better than scaring people that it's illegal

Enjoy ;D
 
bottom line: drug use is a medical/health problem - exactly like alcoholism and tobacco addiction. It should be treated as such. We dont have laws forcing people to go on diets. These are health issues.
 
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