ignorant delegate... convertible?? or not convertible??

[WilliamC]

I hope you are planning to run for public office soon, WilliamC!!

I am unelectable due to my lack of religious beliefs.

Here in the South, if you aren't actively involved in a Church you are political nobody.

Oh people will be polite to you but no one would take you seriously if you decided to run for public office and didn't have a solid record of attending Church.

Best I can do is get involved in my County Republican Party, which I have, and try to influence people one-on-one to remind them of the ultimate reason to be Conservative.

The Constitution, and the limits it places on the Government.

Without that what is there to conserve?

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

I am unelectable due to my lack of religious beliefs.

Here in the South, if you aren't actively involved in a Church you are political nobody.

Oh people will be polite to you but no one would take you seriously if you decided to run for public office and didn't have a solid record of attending Church.

Best I can do is get involved in my County Republican Party, which I have, and try to influence people one-on-one to remind them of the ultimate reason to be Conservative.

The Constitution, and the limits it places on the Government.

Without that what is there to conserve?

For a long time I thought religion was a major cause of evil in society. Well I changed that idea, it's just humans who are pure evil, they are the only species fucked up enough to come up with religion. I applaud your unwillingness to compromise your values by going to church.

 

[bg1654]

Just tell them that you believe that the more personal and private religion is the closer to god you are. Tell them that the true house of god is in the hearts of man. They eat that shit up. You havent lied to them but you have told them something that is acceptable to them and in their mind you become one of them.

 

[WilliamC]

Just tell them that you believe that the more personal and private religion is the closer to god you are. Tell them that the true house of god is in the hearts of man. They eat that shit up. You havent lied to them but you have told them something that is acceptable to them and in their mind you become one of them.

Somehow I don't think that would pass muster here in Mississippi.

Besides I honestly don't believe I have a soul, and that tends to make most religious folks dismiss me out-of-hand if they know that.

 

[hawks4ronpaul]

The response:

David,

Thanks for your response, but under no circumstances would I consider
supporting Ron Paul.

I believe the central issue facing our country is the threat of Islamic
jihadistic terrorism, and that battle is being fought today in Iraq. We must
win there, or fight the battle here in a defensive and disadvantaged
posture.

Ron Paul simply wants us to pull out of Iraq, and that simply would not
work. It is unrealistic, and would lead to a blood bath of interests, and
the diminution of American security.

On this important issue, I agree with Senator McCain completely.

I will keep you posted on what the Romney delegates decide.

Thanks again.

Mike Leahy

He backs a policy that does the opposite of what he says he wants.

I left a comment with links to my http://hawks4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ site (which rebuts the usual arguments) on his blog.

He did not reply directly to me or my points but he did post the standard neocon position that is based on wishful thinking rather than evidence--and he got the president's oath/duty wrong.

h ttp://michaelpatrickleahy.blogspot.com/



http://hawks4ronpaul.blogspot.com/

 

[ziggrl]

RP would never pull the troops out and endanger the lives of our soldiers or the Iraqi people. As a physician, Dr. Paul has taken the oath to preserve life. RP would take a thoughtful and careful approach to troop withdrawl.

 

[aksmith]

This guy is SCARED. He is the typical doofus the Republican Party is able to dupe. Plain and simple, he is a dope and unwilling to look at what's really happening in the world any more than McCain and the used car salesman, Romney, were or are.

Anyone who wastes any more time on someone reading right from Fox's talking points is simply doing that . . . wasting time.

 

[kill the banks]

He backs a policy that does the opposite of what he says he wants.

I left a comment with links to my site (which rebuts the usual arguments) on his blog.

He did not reply directly to me or my points but he did post the standard neocon position that is based on wishful thinking rather than evidence--and he got the president's oath/duty wrong.

h ttp://michaelpatrickleahy.blogspot.com/



http://hawks4ronpaul.blogspot.com/

yes he is "neoconned" and has accepted the agenda ... he needs to understand who they are ... leave him a link to ron's address on this
i'm sure we would have bin laden long ago if ron paul was president and not with world war lll on terrorism , just with special forces to get the 'real' job done ... period !

does he want a constitutional republic and a constitution to protect him and family ...? because neocons want war and empire notwithstanding financial bankruptcy that will undermind our society and lead to more inequity as empires repeat themselves [ & the definition of insanity ]

kill the banks

 

[luke-gr]

I responded to his blog pending his approval. We'll see. Im not nearly the writer that many here are.....

 

[virgil47]

ziggrl, I certainly hope you are correct. However we seem to be the only ones on this board that see a need for a measured and well thought out withdrawal of our troops. I'm sorry to say that if RP were to actually become president and then employed a sensible and well thought out removal of our troops from Iraq many if not most on these boards would turn on him in a heart beat. Sad but but obviously true based on the comments I've seen on the subject.

 

[IDefendThePlatform]

More advice:

Definitely mention that Dr. P gets more $$ from the troops than all the other Republicans combined.

 

[AustrianforRonPaul]

Hi,

you can send him these two links which might open a whole new horizon for him so it might let him change his opinion and vote for Dr. Ron Paul.

The speaker is the British MP George Galloway talking about islamophobia, Iraq, the Middle East conflict and the world terrorism and how to deal with it and end it.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5415030376104128398

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6067977638951704431&hl=de

Best Regards

Ok someone on here a few days ago posted an email to Mike Leahy who is apparently a delegate to the national convention... He was chosen to vote for Romney??? but is now wondering who he should vote for with Romney out.. Apparently came on the radio soliciting advice. Anyway i emailed him, and to my suprise he replied. I need help making a SHORT, CONCISE respone to get this guy thinking in the right direction. We don't need to school him totally in one email (would probably overwhelm), just something to get him started questioning the policy. Tell me what you think.

My first email to Mr. Leahy:

Mike,
> I hear that you are soliciting advice for who to
cast your vote for at the RNC. First I salute you for being a delegate, it
takes time and committment to serve your party. I checked out your website
you seem like a very intelligent man, so I challenge you to take
some time and investigate Ron Paul. I think you will find him to
be the most honest man running. He is a true conservative and will fight to
restore our constitution. Don't just read what his supporters say, go
and do a little research, i think you will be very suprised. If you can't
find any good sources or would like to debate the merits of the three
remaining GOP candidates just email me back.
> Sincerely,
> David Dees

The response:

David,

Thanks for your response, but under no circumstances would I consider
supporting Ron Paul.

I believe the central issue facing our country is the threat of Islamic
jihadistic terrorism, and that battle is being fought today in Iraq. We must
win there, or fight the battle here in a defensive and disadvantaged
posture.

Ron Paul simply wants us to pull out of Iraq, and that simply would not
work. It is unrealistic, and would lead to a blood bath of interests, and
the diminution of American security.

On this important issue, I agree with Senator McCain completely.

I will keep you posted on what the Romney delegates decide.

Thanks again.

Mike Leahy

If i understand correctly, this guy is going to national convention... We need to convert him. Maybe something like " I agree I am completely concerned with terrorist, that is why i think our current foreign policy is a mistake. We got attacked by a bunch of Saudi's on 9-11, and now we're in Iraq?...." also our policy is one that helps incite terrorism. Also, we used to be best friends with Osama. Also, we are bankrupting our nation. Also we have a REAL invasion going on in the Southwest as i type. Also, ron paul is honest!!!! I just don't know where to start with this. He also needs to see the importance of National Sovereignty and monetary policy in all this too. And if he could really see McCain and huck for what they are that would help too.

Give me an outline of what i should say to Mr. Leahy in my next email.
(I am going to sleep. I will check this after class tomorrow and hopefully email him back then.)

 

[nbhadja]

With people like this talk about our 59 trillion dollar debt and the cost of the war. Talk about the federal reserve. Show him the reports and interview of Osama that said our presense there is what drives them to attack us.

 

[Soccrmastr]

take all our fucking troops and hunt osama bin laden. wtf is iraq worth? worst investment in recent history

yup

 

[Carole]

Very good response.

 

[Carole]

Somhow you need to mention that Iraq is not responsible for 911 and that we are not protecting America by nationbuilding in the Mid East. The civil wars there have gone on for centuries and it is unconstitutional for us to be involved in them, both there and in Afghanistan.

 

[Carole]

Exactly and in addition Al Queda is thrilled that they are depleting our resources and draining our economy. They are dancing as our country destroys itself economically and are joyous that we are defeating ourselves as our dollar collapses.

 

[Carole]

Another great letter.

 

[Carole]

I am so frustrated I just wrote how I felt at the time:

"I am so sorry that you have bought into the politics of fear sold by our government.

I will not advise you how to vote as you have already made up your mind. You will not realize your mistake until it is too late.

I hope you have no children who will have to suffer for your lack of rationale and wisdom.

Good luck and sleep well. I know where my vote will go. I choose Liberty, peace, security, and sound government."

 

[luke-gr]

Someone please send him a link to this video just done on Fox. Fantastic interview with Michael Scheuer! http://factbeat.com/get_story.php?id=266 I see neither of my posts to his blog have been added yet.

EDIT: I sent it to him.