If you can run for something and you aren't, you are failing the liberty movement.

chris41336

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If you can run for something and you aren't, you are letting them win.

This is heavy, but true: Dr. Paul won't be running again. He may not even be alive too much longer, as sad as it is. In many ways, he is a prophet and he is leaving the future of the movement that he started in our hands.

However, after months of this it is very clear that the only way this will happen is not by simply persuading most voting Americans to come to our side - there are people with WAY too much at stake in power to let that matter. The only way that we can really make this movement last is to us, ourselves, enter into those very positions that we sit here and deride for being "fradulent" so that we can KNOW that there is a liberty-loving (former) Paul supporter on the other end who would never let that happen.

I have posted many threads like this that have gone basically ignored, for the reason being (I think) that too many people are afraid to take that step into ACTUALLY doing something. Others simply cannot run for office, or aren't good public speakers, etc. That's fine.

But if you can run for political office, ANY political office, and you aren't doing it, then you are failing this movement and you are failing Dr. Paul. Dr. Paul keeps saying to us how excited he is the youth are getting into this message. There is a reason for that, To shift this country, you need those in power to shift as well. If none of the Paul supporters even come out to VOTE, let alone run for something, that can't happen.

I am running to be both a delegate as well as a County Committeeman for my County GOP in my home state this year. Inspired, of course, by Dr. Paul and his message. Committeemen meet three times a year, plus one meeting to help choose delegates. That is almost no time commitment, anyone can do it, AND you can run for/vote for County GOP chairman as a committeeman. These are all positions that are small, out of the public eye, yet significant and winnable.

I'm sorry for being harsh and using "failing", but frankly (and this doesn't go for all of you. You know who you are because there are alot of very politically active people on here) its time for many Paul supporters to stop simply being armchair revolutionaries and take their care for changing this country to the next level.

Then, when we control the state GOPs...then, we win.
 
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+rep for the thread.

And if someone cannot run for office, at the very least they should be actively involved & respected in their community so that they can have an influence over others. Why be only one vote, when if you are involved in your community you can personally deliver hundreds of votes?
 
Dr. Paul is not the movement.
Therefore no one is failing him ... But I get what you're saying, just the same.
 
IMO it's about failing yourself, if you are able to, but do not get involved.
 
IMO it's about failing yourself, if you are able to, but do not get involved.

Good point, I was going to edit my post but you said it well. This is not about Ron Paul, it is about the libertarian-conservative principles that he and many others espouse.
 
Good point, I was going to edit my post but you said it well. This is not about Ron Paul, it is about the libertarian-conservative principles that he and many others espouse.

I agree, which is why my OP started with "failing the liberty movement" and not Dr. Paul. However, this is "Ron Paul forums" so I had to include him in there lol.

Nonetheless, I sincerely hope that there are those who are heeding this call and get more involved in the politics of this country. Don't let the smarmy individuals who run it now remain there forever and just keep fighting against them. Take the helm ourselves. That is how we will win.
 
+rep for the thread.

And if someone cannot run for office, at the very least they should be actively involved & respected in their community so that they can have an influence over others. Why be only one vote, when if you are involved in your community you can personally deliver hundreds of votes?
And back at you, this is well worded, and insightful of how influental people can be, even if not running for office.

Kudos to you !!!
 
I agree, which is why my OP started with "failing the liberty movement" and not Dr. Paul. However, this is "Ron Paul forums" so I had to include him in there lol.

Nonetheless, I sincerely hope that there are those who are heeding this call and get more involved in the politics of this country. Don't let the smarmy individuals who run it now remain there forever and just keep fighting against them. Take the helm ourselves. That is how we will win.
If we were not each individually involved in our own way, we'd not be here ;)

Suggestion,
Rewrite the OP and get it in your local papers opinion section.
 
This is heavy, but true: Dr. Paul won't be running again. He may not even be alive too much longer, as sad as it is. In many ways, he is a prophet and he is leaving the future of the movement that he started in our hands.

However, after months of this it is very clear that the only way this will happen is not by simply persuading most voting Americans to come to our side - there are people with WAY too much at stake in power to let that matter. The only way that we can really make this movement last is to us, ourselves, enter into those very positions that we sit here and deride for being "fradulent" so that we can KNOW that there is a liberty-loving (former) Paul supporter on the other end who would never let that happen.

I have posted many threads like this that have gone basically ignored, for the reason being (I think) that too many people are afraid to take that step into ACTUALLY doing something. Others simply cannot run for office, or aren't good public speakers, etc. That's fine.

But if you can run for political office, ANY political office, and you aren't doing it, then you are failing this movement and you are failing Dr. Paul. Dr. Paul keeps saying to us how excited he is the youth are getting into this message. There is a reason for that, To shift this country, you need those in power to shift as well. If none of the Paul supporters even come out to VOTE, let alone run for something, that can't happen.

I am running to be both a delegate as well as a County Committeeman for my County GOP in my home state this year. Inspired, of course, by Dr. Paul and his message. Committeemen meet three times a year, plus one meeting to help choose delegates. That is almost no time commitment, anyone can do it, AND you can run for/vote for County GOP chairman as a committeeman. These are all positions that are small, out of the public eye, yet significant and winnable.

I'm sorry for being harsh and using "failing", but frankly (and this doesn't go for all of you. You know who you are because there are alot of very politically active people on here) its time for many Paul supporters to stop simply being armchair revolutionaries and take their care for changing this country to the next level.

Then, when we control the state GOPs...then, we win.

A fucking Men brother...

If we devoted as much time as we do to Paul's campaign to the other liberty campaigns out there we could make a real difference.

The way we win in the long run is by taking back control of the GOP.

The POTUS is all well and good, but without a Senate and House to back a Republican-Libertarian President then they'd just obstruct him for four years, ruin the country, and give us a bad name.
 
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Problem is that we have resistance in supporting a "new ron paul" candidate that doesn't share 100% of the same views that we or Ron Paul has =P.
 
I'm considering running for District Supervisor in 2 years. Not sure how successful I'll be seeing how all the board members have families in the county back to the Gold Rush days (we live in the Mother Lode of the Sierra), but someone has to go up against the "Old Guard".
 
I am running to be both a delegate as well as a County Committeeman for my County GOP in my home state this year. Inspired, of course, by Dr. Paul and his message. Committeemen meet three times a year, plus one meeting to help choose delegates. That is almost no time commitment, anyone can do it, AND you can run for/vote for County GOP chairman as a committeeman. These are all positions that are small, out of the public eye, yet significant and winnable.

There are a lot of states where you can run as a Precinct Committeeman and we need all our supporters to do so if we ever plan on taking over the GOP. These are the easiest positions to win because a lot of the positions go vacant because no one files for the position.

Here are some states where you can run for the precinct position:

Arizona - Precinct Committeeman
California - Member of County Central Committee
Illinois - Precinct Committeeman
Indiana - Precinct Committeeman
Michigan - Precinct Delegate
Montana - Precinct Committeeman
Texas - Precinct Chairman
Washington - Precinct Committee Officer
Wyoming - Precinct Committeeman
 
A fucking Men brother...

If we devoted as much time as we do to Paul's campaign to the other liberty campaigns out there we could make a real difference.

The way we win in the long run is by taking back control of the GOP.

The POTUS is all well and good, but without a Senate and House to back a Republican-Libertarian President then they'd just obstruct him for four years, ruin the country, and give us a bad name.
IMO the way to win is to destroy the 2 party system of divisions.
Get rid of it's dominance over peoples thoughts.

All the,
Anyone but someone else, is a major problem ... Half the people (speculation) voted for Obama because they assumed the mantra of anyone but Bush, and in 2012, I speculate that half the voters will be voting for anyone but Obama.

The 2 party system creates and promotes these divisions.
 
IMO the way to win is to destroy the 2 party system of divisions.
Get rid of it's dominance over peoples thoughts.

All the,
Anyone but someone else, is a major problem ... Half the people (speculation) voted for Obama because they assumed the mantra of anyone but Bush, and in 2012, I speculate that half the voters will be voting for anyone but Obama.

The 2 party system creates and promotes these divisions.

Sadly, the only way to destroy the two party system is to infiltrate them. I have dreams of either myself or another Paul supporter one day becoming president as a Republican/Democrat and then once in office denouncing the party and running for re-election as an independent given how easily incumbent reelection rates are.
 
IMO the way to win is to destroy the 2 party system of divisions.
Get rid of it's dominance over peoples thoughts.

All the,
Anyone but someone else, is a major problem ... Half the people (speculation) voted for Obama because they assumed the mantra of anyone but Bush, and in 2012, I speculate that half the voters will be voting for anyone but Obama.

The 2 party system creates and promotes these divisions.

You're 100% correct, the problem is the only way to do this is to make another party and if we do that we give the Dems all the control.

Unfortunately taking back the GOP is best option we currently have...

Maybe once we take back the GOP and the POTUS we can amend the constitution to say that political parties will no longer exist. But trying to make a new party will get us nowhere fast...
 
I will gladly run for some sort of office once I move to my desired location (north California/ maybe new mexico). But I am currently working on getting my life together with school and don't particularly like the area currently live in. So, I see no need to establish a political base in my life at the moment. But I'm definitely looking forward to maybe running for senate in a few years.
 
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