If you are thinking about giving up, read this NOW!!!!

[Patriot123]

Holy crap, I never would have thought I'd even come close to thinking this, but holy ****, we have a damn chance at this. We're still in this. Now more than ever with Huckleberry out.

 

[StarKissed]

Well, I wil remind you then, that this is a "Ron Paul" support fourm. If you vote O'Bama, or anyone else besides Paul, this forum is not for you.

Ron Paul lost. I'm allowed to support who I want.

I've been involved in this movement since may last year. You have no right to tell me to leave just because you disagree with me.

 

[StarKissed]

I just can't believe that some of people think that ANYONE can be the President of the US, by sitting passively in the background and waiting their turn.

Good Lord! How do you think the rest of the Presidents got there? By following the rules? HELL NO. Look, I'm all for being a trustworthy boyscout, but when you play with the pigs, you have to get down in the mud and roll with them, or get out!

When you think what will happen if McCain gets in there, all bets are off. Do you want to see WWIII in the near future? Do you want ALL your liberties taken from you? You have to fight FIRE with FIRE.

Someone has to take responsibility of saving this country, by whatever means. It's THAT important.

 

[The Tao Of Bill]

Well, I wil remind you then, that this is a "Ron Paul" support fourm. If you vote O'Bama, or anyone else besides Paul, this forum is not for you.

I'm here because after Ron Paul is done this will be a hub for how the movement will continue without him. So once again. I'm staying in this movement like it or not. Because the message has nothing to do with Ron Paul. The message has existed since before Ron Paul was even born. And it isn't going to go away just because he doesn't win the nomination.

 

[StarKissed]

Liberty Forest is the website for the movement. Bye!

I'm here because after Ron Paul is done this will be a hub for how the movement will continue without him. So once again. I'm staying in this movement like it or not. Because the message has nothing to do with Ron Paul. The message has existed since before Ron Paul was even born. And it isn't going to go away just because he doesn't win the nomination.

 

[Rlo]

You know me now. I am Grassroots hip and Forum Sargeabt at Arms. Yer a fucking shill and nothing else.Piss off Obama boy. Yer commie will sink this ship in accordance with his masters decree.

Randy

You know what I still support Ron Paul and want him to become president but you sir are a Jackass of epic proportions. Tao has been on here for ages fighting the good fight back when I started lurking about a year ago. He still believes in the candidates Ron Paul wants us to help get elected.

You are a miserable troll on the forums here sowing discontent within the ranks. Some people are not going to write in Ron Paul on election day and that is their choice. I am damn sure people like Tao will still be supporting the movement years after you get bored here insulting good people who gave their all because they don't share your exact view on how we are going to change this country.

There are alot of people like me who rarely ever speak up on the forums and concentrate our efforts in the real world canvassing and trying to do the legwork and you are insulting all of us when you act like this. Heck I am the only member of the my meet-up group who actually has an account on the forums here because everyone else in my group thinks people like you are one of the many reason this campaign is in so much trouble.

So why don't you sit back and re evaluate your action and maybe learn you get more flies with honey than vinegar.

I am sure you or someone else will make some lame post count insult now to try to make yourself feel better. Well think of this. For every post that you have over mine times that by at least two and maybe just maybe you will get close to the ammount of people I have talked to in a sane rational manner about Ron Paul and his dream for this country.

 

[IcyPeaceMaker]

Bill, you're either a troll or a defeatist, and the best thing you can do is to STFU.

We are in this to win it all, by whatever means necessary, we've been smeared, blacked out, told we were all nuts, and have blood, sweat and tears in this campaign, and if you think for one nanosecond that we won't take it to the wall, you are just stupid.

America doesn't know Ron Paul, how the hell can you believe they have spoken, fool!

It's this election or force of arms, read my signature, then either get aboard or haul ass.

 

[Pete]

Holy crap, I never would have thought I'd even come close to thinking this, but holy ****, we have a damn chance at this. We're still in this. Now more than ever with Huckleberry out.

A lot can happen in six months. RP has a book coming out, inflation is kicking in harder, the Surge will be a half year older, and who knows what will come out of McCain's mouth, or what Bush will do? If even 10% of the delegates at the convention are Ron Paul supporters and another half don't like McCain much, things could get very interesting. Maybe even crazier than 1860:

http://www.greatamericanhistory.net/nomination.htm

I only wish I'd had the presence of mind to run as a McCain delegate.

 

[Conza88]

I don't support any movement to go against the will of the people. If the people want McCain then they got what they deserve.

I don't want to go against the democratic process to get Ron Paul in. It's an extremely anti freedom anti democracy move to make.

You fucken ignorant idiot.

The United States of America - is NOT a democracy..

IT"S NEVER MENTIONED IN THE CONSTITUTION, NOT ONCE!!!!!

You lose douchbag. The fact you have no idea about what freedom actually is, means you're a troll. HAHAHA WE"RE GONNA WIN CONVENTION!

 

[The Tao Of Bill]

A republic is a type of democracy. We are a democracy. Not a direct democracy. But still a democracy. We vote in people to represent us. The votes of the people matter very much in this nation.

And please stop calling me names like an immature child. You really show the kind of person you are when you act like that toward another human being.

 

[acptulsa]

Bill, your concerns are noted. We appreciate whatever efforts you put forward to get candidates of libertarian ideals into whatever office we can take. Nonetheless, most of the Republicans in this nation either split their votes between Romney, Huckabee, Paul and Thompson, crossed over to jack with the Democrats or stayed home. McCain in no way represents the majority of the G.O.P. faithful. Furthermore, after a season of enduring people who like Dr. Paul and his positions but were brainwashed by the media into believing that he couldn't win, I don't see how anyone can argue that a McCain nomination in any way represents the wishes of American conservatism.

There will be machinations at the convention. There is nothing to be said or done to stop the attempt. Sorry.

 

[The Tao Of Bill]

Bill, your concerns are noted. We appreciate whatever efforts you put forward to get candidates of libertarian ideals into whatever office we can take. Nonetheless, most of the Republicans in this nation either split their votes between Romney, Huckabee, Paul and Thompson, crossed over to jack with the Democrats or stayed home. McCain in no way represents the majority of the G.O.P. faithful. Furthermore, after a season of enduring people who like Dr. Paul and his positions but were brainwashed by the media into believing that he couldn't win, I don't see how anyone can argue that a McCain nomination in any way represents the wishes of American conservatism.

There will be machinations at the convention. There is nothing to be said or done to stop the attempt. Sorry.

Well thanks for at least treating me with respect. Seriously this forum is frustrating me. I can't debate without being called names here. I don't expect to halt the plan here I just disagree with it. I don't think we're doing any favors to the movement as a whole.

 

[acptulsa]

Well thanks for at least treating me with respect. Seriously this forum is frustrating me. I can't debate without being called names here. I don't expect to halt the plan here I just disagree with it. I don't think we're doing any favors to the movement as a whole.

My pleasure, sir. I believe this should be a forum of respectful discourse. I want us to be united, if not in every detail, at least in our love for liberty. United we stand, and will do more to attract others to stand with us.

This seperates the patriots from the trolls more than any one issue. Are we pushing forward on many fronts, or are we just sowing division in the ranks?

 

[thuja]

Ron Paul lost. I'm allowed to support who I want.

I've been involved in this movement since may last year. You have no right to tell me to leave just because you disagree with me.

what, exactly, are you doing FOR this movement?
go away.

 

[The Tao Of Bill]

what, exactly, are you doing FOR this movement?
go away.

I've been fighting to convince people we aren't all crazy loons and our message is actually quite sensible. But it's kinda hard to do when there are so many people who get angry and call even Ron Paul supporters like me names and tell them to go away.

How do you expect to expand the movement when you tell moderates like me to go away? How am I hurting the movement when I'm trying to bring people in and you're trying to kick people out?

Learn some freaken respect. The way you guys have treated me when I have done nothing but support Ron Paul and support the movement and given my two sense for where the movement should go is absolutely despicable and it shows just how much in shambles this movement is.

If you can't even respect me how do you expect to convince people who are not Ron Paul supporters.

I have yet to call someone a name. Even while I've been flamed to hell in this thread alone. So why is it that everyone feels the need to flame me instead of actually debating me like acptulsa has. Are you really that scared of an actual debate? Are you really that insecure about your thoughts that you have to resort to name calling and telling me to go away?

Absolutely pathetic. And you think you're helping the movement more than I am? Grow up. This isn't a contest.

 

[TastyWheat]

If we can't get the nomination by playing fair I say screw the system.

 

[ARealConservative]

once you wake up, you have insomnia for life.

It is our job to wake up more people and we will win eventually.

 

[janeuner]

The Tao Of Bill
Banned

Hey admins: Can someone ban me too? Thanks in advance.

 

[acptulsa]

The Tao Of Bill
Banned

Seems a mite harsh, even if he was overly repetitive. Liked him better than abe, myself. Not that that's saying much...

 

[entropy]

Can I get my donations back.? RP is sitting on a boatload of cash and the race is over. Seems fair.