If you are thinking about giving up, read this NOW!!!!

[rockandrollsouls]

I don't see how this guy can like obama and paul...they are polar opposites. And he has the nerve to talk about "hurting the movement"? Tao is a fair weather supporter.

Now, to business. Delegates! Let's see what we can do!

 

[DealzOnWheelz]

I don't support any movement to go against the will of the people. If the people want McCain then they got what they deserve.

I don't want to go against the democratic process to get Ron Paul in. It's an extremely anti freedom anti democracy move to make.

Your obviously CLUELESS

THIS IS NOT A DEMOCRACY THE FOUNDERS WERE VISCIOUSLY AGAINST A DEMOCRACY

"Democracy is 2 wolves and 1 sheep deciding whats for dinner"- Ben Franklin

We are not going against the democratic process, we are following the rules

The rules state in order to become the GOP nominee you need to collect 1191 PLEDGED delegates; it says nothing about the will of the people.

and the Republican party is not a GOVERNMENT Entity so they are bound by no laws other than the ones they create for themselves;

They created the delegate process and we are using the delegate process


And if you want to talk about the will of the people then we should have pulled out of IRAQ a long time ago

 

[DealzOnWheelz]

By the way anyone who can like Ron Paul and Barrack Obama needs their head checked

They are polar opposites

Free market healthcare=Universal healthcare
2nd ammendmant rights=gun bans
sovereignty=open borders
Less taxes=More taxes


so besides the fact they are close in age what makes them similar???

 

[The Tao Of Bill]

By the way anyone who can like Ron Paul and Barrack Obama needs their head checked

They are polar opposites

Free market healthcare=Universal healthcare
2nd ammendmant rights=gun bans
sovereignty=open borders
Less taxes=More taxes


so besides the fact they are close in age what makes them similar???

I'm done explaining myself. I'm not here to talk about Obama. I go to Hillary forums to do that.

I'm here to talk about the future of the movement.

THIS IS NOT A DEMOCRACY THE FOUNDERS WERE VISCIOUSLY AGAINST A DEMOCRACY

"Democracy is 2 wolves and 1 sheep deciding whats for dinner"- Ben Franklin

We are not going against the democratic process, we are following the rules

The rules state in order to become the GOP nominee you need to collect 1191 PLEDGED delegates; it says nothing about the will of the people.

and the Republican party is not a GOVERNMENT Entity so they are bound by no laws other than the ones they create for themselves;

They created the delegate process and we are using the delegate process

Maybe... But I still find this method dishonest and against the will of the people and therefore I'm against it. I acknowledge it's not against the rules. I just don't like it and I won't support the method.

 

[jmag]

I just don't like it and I won't support the method.

I don't get this at all - this is how candidates win nominations, with delegates.

 

[orp]

I agree!

Will someone get this self admitted Obama supporter out of here???

I agree. I've seen many posts by this "Tao of Bill" that are counterproductive. He is spreading his negativity and dis-information all over this forum. We have a lot of hard work to do getting Ron Paul delegates and need to maintain our focus. He is quite unhelpful.

 

[Melissa]

I think Tao has no clue about this. I am a very honest person and thier is nothing we are doing but getting involved and if we get what we want out of it --it is because we are the ones that showed up


if the masses that you say we are trying cheat dont like what we are doing they are more then welcome to write in the name of the guy they wanted to be the president in November but I am betting most of them will be fine as long as the person has an R or a D by thier name,

but for you to suggest that by us showing up and being a part of what goes on in our states and our country is something dishonest really means that it is you who does not understand the rules.

 

[danberkeley]

We do not have the support yet to make a dent in the system if we decided to declare independence from the system. We need to educate the people. I'm don't feel we need to break any rules or break our principles. We just need to be patient and use our brains and try not to force our principles on other people. That's why we've been doing so bad. We have been way too aggressive trying to win. We aren't going to win anyone by forcing Ron Paul on the people. We're just going to get more people not trusting the movement and thinking we are a bunch of lunatics.

We need to have a principled reputation just like Ron Paul if we have any hope to succeed in the end. We don't have to solve the problems with America today.

Of course there is no need to force anything upon anybody at this time. Just like our founding fathers fought for their cause for years. What we need to do now is to help people see the light. We need to let them klnow there is a light. And that Obama is one of those energy-efficient light bulbs that contain murcury in them...

 

[Revolution9]

Ron Paul lost. I'm allowed to support who I want.

I've been involved in this movement since may last year. You have no right to tell me to leave just because you disagree with me.

No.. We don't..but we can mock you mercilessly for supporting the ten plans of the communist manifesto and not the Ten Amendments to The Bill Of Rights. RP s the only platform encompassing all Ten Amendments and all the other candidates are trotting the ten planks of the communist manifesto out as their dog and pony show.

Randy

 

[Revolution9]

Maybe you should leave cleaner. Because you are hurting this movement by declareing yourself king of it with the capability of telling people to leave it. I plan on sticking with the movement for the rest of my life. So get used to me. I'm not the only Ron Paul supporter with Obama as a 2nd choice. Stop alienating people who want to support the movement. You have no right to tell anyone who can participate. No one made you king of the movement. I seem to recall several times Ron Paul sounded quite proud to attract democrat leaning independents like myself.

Obama as a second choice shows you out to be hoodwinked and blindered. Hie is a protege of the NWO kingpin and his financier is Skull and Bones, his wife CFR ad he flies a Che Guaverra flag in his office. Pure commie trash.

HTH
Randy

 

[Revolution9]

We don't have to solve the problems with America today.

Heck no.. Let's let them put the final nail in the coffin first and then arise to meet their challenge.. yer fucked up pal. You have an agenda and it ain't shiny and hopeful but seems to have elements of PTB think in it.

Randy

 

[Revolution9]

h and we MUST show we are willing to accept the democratic process if we are to be deemed the freedom movement.

This is a Republic and we are leveraging those principles. This is not a democracy and mob rule. We will rewrite the rules to our advantage and remove their advantage.

Randy

 

[Revolution9]

I'm done explaining myself. I'm not here to talk about Obama. I go to Hillary forums to do that.

I'm here to talk about the future of the movement.

We do not want to talk about the future of the commie Obamas movement. This is an RP forum dedicated to his winning the POTUS. Yer psoting yer crap to the wrong forums. We do not give a rats ass about this clown Obama,his vaccuous non-existent life nor his bitchy wife and her problems with being black. Furthermore Zbigniew can suck a stick of lit dynamite for all i care. Fucking Nazi operatives.

Randy

 

[The Tao Of Bill]

We do not want to talk about the future of the commie Obamas movement. This is an RP forum dedicated to his winning the POTUS. Yer psoting yer crap to the wrong forums. We do not give a rats ass about this clown Obama,his vaccuous non-existent life nor his bitchy wife and her problems with being black. Furthermore Zbigniew can suck a stick of lit dynamite for all i care. Fucking Nazi operatives.

Randy

Fuck off. That's all I'm going to say. I've done nothing but give to this movement. So just fuck off. I don't need this shit from you. I don't even know you.

 

[The Tao Of Bill]

This is a Republic and we are leveraging those principles. This is not a democracy and mob rule. We will rewrite the rules to our advantage and remove their advantage.

Randy

This is a representative democracy. meaning we elect people to represent us. Meaning it's wrong to go against the votes and force a representative on the people.

 

[IcyPeaceMaker]

We are talking about survival as a free nation. Rules and feeling be damned, we now may have to play by THEIR rules - win at any cost! Blood is thicker than water, my friends.

 

[The Tao Of Bill]

We are talking about survival as a free nation. Rules and feeling be damned, we now may have to play by THEIR rules - win at any cost! Blood is thicker than water, my friends.

America has survived through worse. There is no reason to get impatient and do anything drastic. We need to keep our head on our shoulders and win hearts and minds and be patient and positive and focus on what our platform can do not assume the majority of the nation agrees with us because right now that's simply not the case.

 

[Melissa]

America has survived through worse. There is no reason to get impatient and do anything drastic. We need to keep our head on our shoulders and win hearts and minds and be patient and positive and focus on what our platform can do not assume the majority of the nation agrees with us because right now that's simply not the case.

yes but you assume this majority knew about Ron Paul and just did not vote for him--maybe if that was the case you might and I mean might have a point --butttt these same people you are so worried about cheating somehow which those of us working on delegates know we are not the ones cheating but even so this majority does not even know who Ron Paul is so who again are we cheating

 

[LEK]

I must add - it is the system that is allowing us to put delegates in place.

It isn't unlawful.

Drastic times...

 

[LEK]

The founding fathers gave us tools to get rid of incompetent presidents. We should let our congressmen know we will not allow them to let another president get away with war crimes. Impeachment will not be off the table this time.

The congressmen are as corrupt as the president.
They won't push because then they are liable to be exposed as well.

And they DON'T listen to the people. They pat us on the head, send us a form letter and vote themselves raises.

You see what one good man is up against in Congress.

Things need to be changed.