If you are a Ron Paul delegate DO NOT sign up for Americans Elect (Video)

[Massachusetts]

Hat tip to cutmemick for sharing this video.

In short: It is a conflict of interest for you to be signed up with Americans Elect AND be a delegate. It is apparently against the rules and your position as a delegate will be discredited if you are participating in this.

However, if you are not a Ron Paul delegate than you are encouraged to sign up and support him on Americans Elect.

 

[sailingaway]

ALSO it lets them know who supports who. I did just think of that. It clearly is pushing for corporatist mushy middle types and why there is a mechanical way around that by picking one from the right and one from the left, people of that mindset do not have our interests at heart. Other than delegates, it is anyone's choice, of course, but I agree if you are a delegate, or might become one, it is probably best to avoid this.

 

[rb3b3]

ok i will not sign up for it then!! wouldnt even know how to, but thanks for pointing it out, i will not sign up!! if ron paul wins my county, im a delegate going straight to tampa!

 

[rockandrollsouls]

Conspiracy theories. It's legit, and has been validated by three independent security agencies.

Where

ALSO it lets them know who supports who. I did just think of that. It clearly is pushing for corporatist mushy middle types and why there is a mechanical way around that by picking one from the right and one from the left, people of that mindset do not have our interests at heart. Other than delegates, it is anyone's choice, of course, but I agree if you are a delegate, or might become one, it is probably best to avoid this.

 

[RonRules]

Weren't these America Elect pushing for Internet voting?

They're certainly doing candidate selection through the internet.

Just say NO!

 

[farmboynate]

already signed up for the stupid site

So I already signed up for the stupid site it looks like you just go vote there wouldn't see how it would affect you being a delegate or anything like that............ but because I am working to be a Utah Presidential delegate I went to the site withdrew my votes and deleted my account just to be safe If I am already screwed and cant be one now let me know so I don't waste my time doing all the work it takes to be one

 

[Massachusetts]

^^ No, you're okay I'm guessing. It's just that in politics they like to dig into everything and find any reason they can to kick out RP delegates IMO.

 

[69360]

It will depend on your state. If your state has an open primary (don't need to be registered GOP to vote in the primary) you should be ok being a delegate and participating Americans elect. If you are in a closed primary state, they can rightfully remove you as a delegate, it's the same as belonging to an opposing party.

 

[libertylastchance]

You should make sure that you are still registered as a Republican...
Depending on what state you are in.. depends on if that state required that they be registered as a PARTY.. NV is one that required this message..

 

[libertylastchance]

As of March 2012, Americans Elect has gained ballot status in 18 states: Alaska,[26] Arizona,[26] Arkansas,[27] California,[28][29] Colorado,[30] Florida,[31] Kansas,[26] Maine,[32] Michigan,[31] Mississippi,[33] Nevada,[26] Ohio,[34] Rhode Island,[35] Utah,[36] Vermont[37] New Mexico[38] Montana[39] and Wyoming.[40]

As of February 2012, certification is pending in Hawaii.[41]

As of December 2011, signatures for fifteen other states were being collected.[29]

Americans Elect is in the process of securing a line on the ballot in all 50 states for a ticket to be named directly by the people through the first-ever online nominating convention. Any registered voter can sign up to participate as a Delegate at AmericansElect.org.[42] The organization is attempting the process of being accredited in every US state, allowing it to place candidates on presidential ballots nationwide.[7]

In order to obtain ballot access nationwide, some states' guidelines require Americans Elect to register as a political party,[10] even though federal courts have ruled[5] they are not a traditional political party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_Elect#Ballot_status

There is not enough clarification .... if your state requires that be a registered Republican to vote in the primaries.. do not change parties until after your primary.. Delegates cannot change parties and be a Republican delegate.

 

[Travlyr]

Weren't these America Elect pushing for Internet voting?

They're certainly doing candidate selection through the internet.

Just say NO!

Yes, just say no. American's Elect is unverifiable Internet voting. Talk about your vote not counting for anything...

 

[libertylastchance]

You have to be a Republican to be a delegate for the Republican Party.. Why would they allow a Democrat to have a say in who their nominee is? I don't believe that in open primaries the rules for delegates is the same as the voters..

 

[libertylastchance]

He clearly states not to join unless your primary/caucus is over... that is everyone.

 

[UMULAS]

1.) Get a mod to look at this

2.) Get a mod to sticky this

3.) Get a mod to post this on the front page website
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[Salvial]

Yes, just say no. American's Elect is unverifiable Internet voting...

run by a certain Lady Rothschild.

 

[J_White]

delegate or not, i would NOT associate with this !

 

[kah13176]

America's Elect is run by the Rothschild family.
America's Elect is run by the Rothschild family.
America's Elect is run by the Rothschild family.
America's Elect is run by the Rothschild family.


How many times must we say it?? Do NOT associate with them.

 

[Aratus]

the conflict of interest angle is a priority and a good reason to sticky this thread.

 

[libertylastchance]

How to OPT OUT!
The e-mail address is [email protected]. People need to put "Terminate account immediately!" (or something similar) in the subject field, so it won't get buried.



I simply told them that it had come to my attention that participation on their website could jeopardize someone's ability to become a delegate for a GOP candidate, and I do not want to create a conflict of interest.



I asked them to delete my account and all of my information immediately.



My guess is they aren't going to be too thrilled about it, because they use an "outside" firm to gather information. I'm guessing a place like Intellius or something, because they did already know a lot about me.



I'm sure that isn't free to them.



However, a person that has the option to sign up, must always have the option to opt out.



YOU NEED TO PRINT OUT THE E-MAIL YOU SENT..

You also need to then opt out of the acct on line and close it..

*response is that your information will be retained for legal purpose!

save & print where you cancelled your acct.


If you log onto your AE account, beside your name on the upper left-hand corner is "My Account". Click on that. Over to the right you will see "Delete my account." A pop-up comes up saying your account will be deleted and all information will be erased, then click on "Delete my Account." Whew. Problem solved. I honestly did not see this yesterday, and I was looking hard, so maybe they realized a lot of people would be opting out over the newfound info.

 

[libertylastchance]

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