If we could buy 1000 acres or more, who would join us?

Thanks man. I remember reading about this a few times. Originally a few years back I was going to move to NH. These days I'm thinking either Idaho or Montana since I want to either homestead on the cheap or maybe even go super cheap and just build a pithouse near a creek.

I'm young and still in my 'career' prime... as such I'm kinda chained to a 'big city.' It is my dream to have some land in a rural area like Idaho, Montana, Eastern Washington/Oregon... hell I'd even take western parts of Wyoming and the Dakotas.... That's my retirement plan, anyway. Go full prepper with house/land in an area that would survive TEOTWAWKI
 
I'm young and still in my 'career' prime... as such I'm kinda chained to a 'big city.' It is my dream to have some land in a rural area like Idaho, Montana, Eastern Washington/Oregon... hell I'd even take western parts of Wyoming and the Dakotas.... That's my retirement plan, anyway. Go full prepper with house/land in an area that would survive TEOTWAWKI

I've lived in both WA and OR. I love the places and miss them sorely at times, but politically they suck. They are now run by progressives and the laws are slowly but surely tightening. I would avoid those states.

ID is a beautiful place and very conservative, so that might be a good choice. Never been to MT, so cannot really comment save to say the winters can be very rough. ND, IIRC, is a political shit hole. SD is far better, but again the winters are a bear. I love WY, so yeah... another good possibility.

All bias aside, I think WV would have been far and away the superior choice for the FSP. Most people here would be on board with the spirit of it. The country is gorgeous, it is not TOO far from civilization, low population of 1.8MM, low RE prices and taxes, except in a few places like Morgantown and Charleston, each dens of liberal iniquity.

We are on a modest 30 acres and pay about $300 in property tax. I can do anything I want on the land and nobody gives a shit. Cannot get away with this everywhere, but who wants to live in a place like Charleston? We were on 100 acres in Summers county and I could have lit a tactical nuke in the holler and nobody would have so much as noticed, much less cared.

Other reasons for WV: it is drug-ridden and has the highest per capita welfare recipiency in the nation, meaning it is ripe for improvement in those areas. Serious crime is very low here, such as murder and bank robbery, but petty crime is high. A neighbor got a flat on his trailer, parked it by Richadson's, drove just a couple miles home for a spare and when he got back, the trailer was gone. :(

It is arguably the most gun-friendly state in the nation with Constitutional Carry, no home-rule, castle- and stand-your-ground laws, and IIRC the highest proportion of Class III ownership in America.

Generally, the people here are friendly, very polite, mostly Christian but open minded and respectful of others' choices. They tend to be helpful. But there is also a lot of fat trash here. Nothing's quite perfect. :)

Huntington is a nice college town (Marshall U), as is Morgantown. Fairmont has entities like NASA and FBI operating there, so there are definitely upscale locales. Then there are town like Hinton, where we used to live, Logan, and Princeton, which are different worlds altogether.

A free state initiative in WV might work more readily than it has in NH as there are fewer entrenched progressive dumbasses to fight.

Just a thought.
 
I've lived in both WA and OR. I love the places and miss them sorely at times, but politically they suck. They are now run by progressives and the laws are slowly but surely tightening. I would avoid those states.

ID is a beautiful place and very conservative, so that might be a good choice. Never been to MT, so cannot really comment save to say the winters can be very rough. ND, IIRC, is a political shit hole. SD is far better, but again the winters are a bear. I love WY, so yeah... another good possibility.

All bias aside, I think WV would have been far and away the superior choice for the FSP. Most people here would be on board with the spirit of it. The country is gorgeous, it is not TOO far from civilization, low population of 1.8MM, low RE prices and taxes, except in a few places like Morgantown and Charleston, each dens of liberal iniquity.

We are on a modest 30 acres and pay about $300 in property tax. I can do anything I want on the land and nobody gives a shit. Cannot get away with this everywhere, but who wants to live in a place like Charleston? We were on 100 acres in Summers county and I could have lit a tactical nuke in the holler and nobody would have so much as noticed, much less cared.

Other reasons for WV: it is drug-ridden and has the highest per capita welfare recipiency in the nation, meaning it is ripe for improvement in those areas. Serious crime is very low here, such as murder and bank robbery, but petty crime is high. A neighbor got a flat on his trailer, parked it by Richadson's, drove just a couple miles home for a spare and when he got back, the trailer was gone. :(

It is arguably the most gun-friendly state in the nation with Constitutional Carry, no home-rule, castle- and stand-your-ground laws, and IIRC the highest proportion of Class III ownership in America.

Generally, the people here are friendly, very polite, mostly Christian but open minded and respectful of others' choices. They tend to be helpful. But there is also a lot of fat trash here. Nothing's quite perfect. :)

Huntington is a nice college town (Marshall U), as is Morgantown. Fairmont has entities like NASA and FBI operating there, so there are definitely upscale locales. Then there are town like Hinton, where we used to live, Logan, and Princeton, which are different worlds altogether.

A free state initiative in WV might work more readily than it has in NH as there are fewer entrenched progressive dumbasses to fight.

Just a thought.

once again I will never understand the logic behind choosing New Hampshire for the FSP.... just doesn't make sense. West Virginia would be beautiful. Idaho is on my list for later in life. Hell I might buy some property/land up there in the meantime just to have it in case of.....
 
I did some minor searches for land in Idaho and Montana last night. Some can be bought for only $1,000-2000 an acre. That's what I'm looking for, but it has to have a creek and I'd like to be able to hunt game. Be as self sufficient as possible and use as little money as possible. So no property taxes would be a huge bonus.
 
I did some minor searches for land in Idaho and Montana last night. Some can be bought for only $1,000-2000 an acre. That's what I'm looking for, but it has to have a creek and I'd like to be able to hunt game. Be as self sufficient as possible and use as little money as possible. So no property taxes would be a huge bonus.

Let me know when you get it ready , the Mrs is nagging about a vacation .
 
‘Alien-infested’ ranch on the market for $5 million

An Arizona man has put his ranch up for sale — because he says he’s been harassed for years by aliens who even tried to abduct his wife, reports said.

John Edmonds, owner of the Stardust Ranch in Rainbow Valley, about an hour west of Phoenix, is a popular figure in the alien believers community and has publicized his purported encounters with extraterrestrials on Facebook, claiming it’s the reason he wants to sell his ranch, 12News TV reported.

“They actually levitated [my wife] out of the bed in the master chamber and carried her into the parking lot and tried to draw her up into the craft,” he said, according to the outlet. “This is why I want to move!”

He said that in the past 20 years, he has experienced many “strange events” involving aliens and claims to have killed more than a dozen extraterrestrials on his sprawling ranch.

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http://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/2017/10/28/alien-infested-ranch-on-market-for-5-million.html
 

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If I had 5 million laying around, I'd snap that place up in a minute. I always wanted to live somewhere that was haunted or weird in some way. At the very least, I want a secret passage.

I'm real big on that secret passage/room stuff too
 
I did some minor searches for land in Idaho and Montana last night. Some can be bought for only $1,000-2000 an acre. That's what I'm looking for, but it has to have a creek and I'd like to be able to hunt game. Be as self sufficient as possible and use as little money as possible. So no property taxes would be a huge bonus.

Shoot, I bought the 15 acres behind us for $333/acre.
 
I completely respect your stance. Moving somewhere remote with just our families and close friends remains an option.

This is pretty much my plan if sh8t really gets bad. A small family group of people doesn't need 1000 acres and I already have family with ~200 acres of forest in a remote part of Kentucky with everything we need to survive: stocked pond, year-round grow house, and multiple shelters. My grandfather was a agriculture major in college, and he's been building his paradise for 30+ years there.
 
I'm going to remain in Kentucky. I may move further in towards the hills, but there is a lot of country here if you don't stick to the populated areas.

Home of rand paul and massie, the amish and their communities do well here too and are overlooked. Also it turns out my great x grandfather's revolution era farm isn't too far away.
 
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When i first read this I didnt realize the original post was so many years ago... anyone still in CA want to try to spread freedom message?
 
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