If we could buy 1000 acres or more, who would join us?

Carlybee said:
They do pretty well with Ruidoso and Taos...at least in years when they get plenty of snow but I guess they've probably been victims of the economy too.
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I always enjoyed my one night stop in the outskirts of Taos in the old days, food too spicy , the liquor nasty , got me re focused on business on my way back North the next day, LOL.
 
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oyarde said:
Well , the Big Bend would be better , but always still at risk , maybe 12 inches of rain a year or about half of the Hill Country....
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True...hill country would be ideal....but $$$$ and honestly they have had some gnarly droughts and wildfires there. The area around Bandera is nice but again..pricey. There are probably some decent parcels of land further in central Texas on the outskirts of the hill country ..maybe a bit north of there that would have good farming land. The areas around Brenham, Schulenburg which are between Houston and San Antonio have great farming land but not cheap either. You can get good deals on land north of Houston but it's pretty redneck. And by redneck I mean Aryan Brotherhood and meth house redneck.
 
oyarde said:
I always enjoyed my one night stop in the outskirts of Taos in the old days, food too spicy , the liquor nasty , got me re focused on business on my way back North thenext day, LOL.
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I haven't been there in years since my son was a toddler.
 
tangent4ronpaul said:
couple of other good posts:

I do not know how many people out there are still interested in land but I do want to warn you that buying land that was obtained through a tax sale can be iffy. If the person who purchased the land certificate didn't do all the lien reviews and leg work you could end up with a piece of property that has a prior lien and you will lose that land, no reimbursement for what you paid either unless you want to pay the lien holders.
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Would definitely need to use an agent
 
Carlybee said:
True...hill country would be ideal....but $$$$ and honestly they have had some gnarly droughts and wildfires there. The area around Bandera is nice but again..pricey. There are probably some decent parcels of land further in central Texas on the outskirts of the hill country ..maybe a bit north of there that would have good farming land. The areas around Brenham, Schulenburg which are between Houston and San Antonio have great farming land but not cheap either. You can get good deals on land north of Houston but it's pretty redneck. And by redneck I mean Aryan Brotherhood and meth house redneck.
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I imagine the areas of, north of Boerne, about Bandera, outside Fredricksburg etc would be pricey , but you can save cistern water and still grow food etc
 
In 2002 I did a research on property and wanted these things: clean air, clean water, moderate climate, no military bases, and no Superfund sites or toxic waste dumps. Those were the parameters I typed into the government database called Enviro-mapper. There were only four places that came up that met most of the demands. Southern New Mexico met all plus more (1 1/2 hours to an international airport, 15 minutes to town, and 15 minutes to an interstate, and a hospital too). So I bought land in an area called the Deming Ranchettes several years ago. A man named Dennis Mack sold it to me. He was a nice guy and reputable. He sold lots of property averaging about $3200 an acre, some had electrical access, some not. During this time the county was secretly re-writing the zoning so that all these new landowners could not use their properties. Six months after I received title the county changed their zoning and forbid anyone that owned less than 2 acres to drill a well. That affected about 90% of the properties purchased, including mine. A lawsuit followed but I lost my job and decided to stay put for awhile. I know some people were trying to combine their properties to share a well, etc. At some point I will check back in with the whole thing.

Ideally, I would have liked to gather several neighbors and form a cooperative type eco-village.

Now I am back online and looking to see what everyone else is doing around the country and to ask if anyone has successfully partnered with others to create small communities similar to the one I mentioned.

Make sure you do your homework before buying any land, you can get topographic maps from the USGS, that will show roads, elevations, whether the land is forested, etc. As for Craigs List, be very careful, most of the stuff on their is scams, with people just trying to get your money. I had friends that thought they were getting a fixer upper house, and they paid their money and moved in, imagine their surprise when the real owner showed up, wanting to know what they were doing, they lost all of their money and still dont have a place to live.For foreclosed properties, you can go to the county websites, they have listings for all the properties for sale, and with any back taxes due, or other lein information. People just make sure you check out everything you can, before you buy, and if you can make sure that you see the property, and do not send money up front. Most counties have property survey maps for the property, its always a good idea to check these out, gives you a better idea of where the land is.

I saw a property I was interested in recently only to find out that it was located within a home owners association even though it was in a rural area. The monthly fees were $341.00. There were many foreclosed homes in the same area.

A lot of people are asking this same question right now. I know there must be groups of homesteaders on the Internet. As far as cheap land goes, there is still acreage in Deming Ranchettes (Deming, New Mexico) available but the zoning and regulations have changed constantly. Nowadays you can't even run gas lines or electric lines to your property without a building permit.

I think the best thing to do is find people who have similar interests and values, pool your money and buy a large piece of land in an unicncoporated area, and divide it up between the partners. Only resell to the other partners first, and then only to people who will agree to abide by the common rules that you all come up with.

-t
 
tangent4ronpaul said:
In 2002 I did a research on property and wanted these things: clean air, clean water, moderate climate, no military bases, and no Superfund sites or toxic waste dumps. Those were the parameters I typed into the government database called Enviro-mapper. There were only four places that came up that met most of the demands. Southern New Mexico met all plus more (1 1/2 hours to an international airport, 15 minutes to town, and 15 minutes to an interstate, and a hospital too). So I bought land in an area called the Deming Ranchettes several years ago. A man named Dennis Mack sold it to me. He was a nice guy and reputable. He sold lots of property averaging about $3200 an acre, some had electrical access, some not. During this time the county was secretly re-writing the zoning so that all these new landowners could not use their properties. Six months after I received title the county changed their zoning and forbid anyone that owned less than 2 acres to drill a well. That affected about 90% of the properties purchased, including mine. A lawsuit followed but I lost my job and decided to stay put for awhile. I know some people were trying to combine their properties to share a well, etc. At some point I will check back in with the whole thing.

Ideally, I would have liked to gather several neighbors and form a cooperative type eco-village.

Now I am back online and looking to see what everyone else is doing around the country and to ask if anyone has successfully partnered with others to create small communities similar to the one I mentioned.

Make sure you do your homework before buying any land, you can get topographic maps from the USGS, that will show roads, elevations, whether the land is forested, etc. As for Craigs List, be very careful, most of the stuff on their is scams, with people just trying to get your money. I had friends that thought they were getting a fixer upper house, and they paid their money and moved in, imagine their surprise when the real owner showed up, wanting to know what they were doing, they lost all of their money and still dont have a place to live.For foreclosed properties, you can go to the county websites, they have listings for all the properties for sale, and with any back taxes due, or other lein information. People just make sure you check out everything you can, before you buy, and if you can make sure that you see the property, and do not send money up front. Most counties have property survey maps for the property, its always a good idea to check these out, gives you a better idea of where the land is.

I saw a property I was interested in recently only to find out that it was located within a home owners association even though it was in a rural area. The monthly fees were $341.00. There were many foreclosed homes in the same area.

A lot of people are asking this same question right now. I know there must be groups of homesteaders on the Internet. As far as cheap land goes, there is still acreage in Deming Ranchettes (Deming, New Mexico) available but the zoning and regulations have changed constantly. Nowadays you can't even run gas lines or electric lines to your property without a building permit.

I think the best thing to do is find people who have similar interests and values, pool your money and buy a large piece of land in an unicncoporated area, and divide it up between the partners. Only resell to the other partners first, and then only to people who will agree to abide by the common rules that you all come up with.

-t
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There's a site called the Hippie Forums...they have a lot of stuff on intentional communities there, eco-villages, etc. It's a pretty wild site.
 
Carlybee said:
This one would be perfect...wish it was more affordable. It's a beautiful area close to small towns and not that far from San Antonio. http://www.landsofamerica.com/texas/land-for-sale/1117-acres-in-Kendall-County-Texas/id/843985
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:) If you figure out how to get the price down , slice it into 20 acre squares , get enough buy in, I will still give you my best dove breast recipe, tell you which trees will fruit the best and tell you where the best diner is .I will not have to worry about you turning into a mummy in the desert ,lol
 
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What , 50 twenty acre squares 140k ea is 7 mill ? Yeah , would have to get it down ....
 
Considerations:

water
utilities
road access
climate
rainfall
good soil
What do you want to do with the land? Farm it?
Do you just want to get away from having neighbors?
How close to a city do you want to be?
Taxes, personal income
taxes, property
nearby possibilities for income
Quality of school districts
Proximity to medical care
hazardous waste dump?
near irritating industries ?
Local/state laws
Building codes
zoning – esp commercial, animals and residential
gun friendly?
Tax liens on property
mineral/water rights
Who else is in the neighborhood
culture and acceptance of strangers

-t
 
Do you guys have any experience with wwoofers? wwoofusa.org/farms I've considered having some wwoofers help me raise a small pole barn and letting them live in it for a season in exchange for a few days of branch totin' in the orchard each week. Maybe a couple. They'd have to be camping compliant (and preferably not crackheads). Just something I've been throwing around.
 
presence said:
Do you guys have any experience with wwoofers? wwoofusa.org/farms I've considered having some wwoofers help me raise a small pole barn and letting them live in it for a season in exchange for a few days of branch totin' in the orchard each week. Maybe a couple. They'd have to be camping compliant (and preferably not crackheads). Just something I've been throwing around.
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First I've heard of it. It sounds like a good idea though. Trade your labor for knowledge gained.
 
oyarde said:
:) If you figure out how to get the price down , slice it into 20 acre squares , get enough buy in, I will still give you my best dove breast recipe, tell you which trees will fruit the best and tell you where the best diner is .I will not have to worry about you turning into a mummy in the desert ,lol
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Pass on the dove breast!
 
The first consideration would need to be how many can realistically commit and afford it. As much as I really want to do it, it would be hard to get my husband on board but I could maybe swing a loan for an acre or two depending on cost and location, I am just not in position to leave my job for a while yet. I had already been thinking about some land whether he's on board with it or not. He doesn't buy into the shtf scenario and his parents live in Canada so he knows he has a place to go if he ever had to. He really doesn't get the concept of why I want to have my own land.
 
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