If we could buy 1000 acres or more, who would join us?

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

I found the last two places I've lived through unitedcountry

http://www.unitedcountry.com/realestate/search-state/index.htm

I prefer to sort by "price ascending"


I'm 3 sides to state forest right now. Love my location.

That is an awesome website - thanks a bunch!

 

[WhistlinDave]

I live in California too and have been thinking about this a lot lately. I'm currently in between jobs and the job market is insane, trying to get something making what I used to make, so I can afford to live. Bare minimum I need to make at least $5,000. per month just to pay the bills and keep our heads above water!! It's ridiculous. Our house is in foreclosure and if I don't get this job I just interviewed for and work something out with the bank, we're going to have to move very soon. And all of it just makes me think "WTF am I doing? When the SHTF none of this is going to matter, not the house, not any job, not money, not any of it."

My kid is still in high school for one more year and the wife and I have discussed moving out of state many times, but we've decided to stay put here for at least one more year for him to finish school with his friends, not uproot. I just hope the big fan remains clean and sh*t-free for one more year. (i.e. I hope the dollar doesn't lose its status as the world's reserve currency for one more year. Because that is when it will really hit the fan, imho.)

Anyway Deb, if you end up starting up something of your own instead of going with something pre-existing, you can count me in. I don't have any real assets to bring to the table except some brains and muscle. I'm a workhorse and I'll work my ass off.

I would just need to make sure wherever we end up, it's friendly to atheists. The wife is atheist and while I'm not exactly atheist myself, I tend to share her disdain for people trying to shove their religion on everyone else. So that's a major requirement for wherever we end up, if we were to join a free living type of community. Gotta have freedom of religion.

 

[kahless]

You may already be familiar with this but if not, James Rawles runs survivalblog.com and is encouraging as a safe haven for survivalists, conservatives, Christians and Jews to move to a region he calls the "American Redoubt". Five low density states of Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, eastern Oregon, and eastern Washington. The concept was endorsed by former presidential candidate Chuck Baldwin who moved to Montana.

http://www.survivalblog.com/redoubt.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Redoubt
https://www.facebook.com/AmRedoubt

Survival blogs State Level Data and Rankings
http://www.survivalblog.com/retreatareas.html

 

[Tod]

I wonder if the FSP would be experiencing greater influence in NH if it had started out focusing on a single county in the state and, upon re-making life there, spilling out into neighboring counties?

 

[Czolgosz]

I wonder if the FSP would be experiencing greater influence in NH if it had started out focusing on a single county in the state and, upon re-making life there, spilling out into neighboring counties?

I think that would be the preferred method of serving liberty. Show a small town doing well, w/o the State.

 

[Deborah K]

I live in California too and have been thinking about this a lot lately. I'm currently in between jobs and the job market is insane, trying to get something making what I used to make, so I can afford to live. Bare minimum I need to make at least $5,000. per month just to pay the bills and keep our heads above water!! It's ridiculous. Our house is in foreclosure and if I don't get this job I just interviewed for and work something out with the bank, we're going to have to move very soon. And all of it just makes me think "WTF am I doing? When the SHTF none of this is going to matter, not the house, not any job, not money, not any of it."

My kid is still in high school for one more year and the wife and I have discussed moving out of state many times, but we've decided to stay put here for at least one more year for him to finish school with his friends, not uproot. I just hope the big fan remains clean and sh*t-free for one more year. (i.e. I hope the dollar doesn't lose its status as the world's reserve currency for one more year. Because that is when it will really hit the fan, imho.)

Anyway Deb, if you end up starting up something of your own instead of going with something pre-existing, you can count me in. I don't have any real assets to bring to the table except some brains and muscle. I'm a workhorse and I'll work my ass off.

I would just need to make sure wherever we end up, it's friendly to atheists. The wife is atheist and while I'm not exactly atheist myself, I tend to share her disdain for people trying to shove their religion on everyone else. So that's a major requirement for wherever we end up, if we were to join a free living type of community. Gotta have freedom of religion.

Dave, I'm a woman of very deep faith. But I too, share in your disdain for people trying to shove religion on others. I love anyone with a 'live and let live' philosophy.

 

[amy31416]

I'm wishy-washy at the moment. I like the idea, but I want to see where it is and how things would work. I could potentially do it in the right circumstances.

ETA: I have come across a whole town for sale on Zillow before--might be something to keep an eye out for.

 

[Deborah K]

I think that would be the preferred method of serving liberty. Show a small town doing well, w/o the State.

We could be that small town....

 

[Tod]

What would be the best way to achieve this goal of an area of the country maximizing liberty? Look for a large plot of land to either divide among various libertarian owners or own in common? That would require coordination of time, effort, life circumstances, and finances among a group of people. If it could be done, a lot could happen in a short amount of time, but actually pulling the trigger would be difficult to coordinate. Alternatively, an approach like the FSP could happen, perhaps with a more focused geographical area (which could also pose difficulties as land might take longer to appear on the market).

I've been looking for land near me in this county of relatively low population density, mostly agricultural use. Sizable farms do not come on the market frequently here.

Currently, http://www.landwatch.com/Ohio_land_for_sale/Ashland_County lists

0-10 Acres (87 properties)
11-50 Acres (6 properties)
51-100 Acres (1 property)

Land in the northern part of the county is generally quite flat while in the southern part it can be too steep to till and is generally more wooded.

Remember, this is pretty fertile ground, so a person doesn't need to own as much ground as they would in dry western states.

 

[tod evans]

Anybody who hasn't read "Lights out" here's a free PDF;

http://www.frugalsquirrels.com/fiction/lightsout1-10.pdf

I really enjoyed it.

 

[WhistlinDave]

Dave, I'm a woman of very deep faith. But I too, share in your disdain for people trying to shove religion on others. I love anyone with a 'live and let live' philosophy.

That's good enough for me! And that's definitely my philosophy. Truth be told, I actually have very deep faith myself... My spiritual beliefs are just very different from the definitions and doctrines provided by the religion shared by most people in this country.

 

[Nobexliberty]

The midwest is a good place, dakotas should work. Very fertile land and low population so buying land should not be a problem.

 

[Lindsey]

I'm all for the town idea.

We are looking for a place to relocate. For us, we want a mild/moderate climate - preferably some place that doesn't freeze too often and doesn't stay over 90 and humid for too long. We were actually considering Northern CA, such as Humboldt and Trinity counties, but every time I see one of these threads on RPF, I start to question my sanity on even considering a move to CA.

Best of Luck in whatever direction you choose. I look forward to watching you develop a pro-liberty community somewhere If welcomed, and the situation was right for us, I would love to be a part of such a community.

 

[oyarde]

If you want alot of freedom, probably going to have a little "weather" .

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

Hi Deb,

You might pencil me in if you are considering anything east. Say within a gas tanks drive? We have ties here, but a bugout retreat/vacation spot would be perfect. Come up weekends or for a week or two at a time, depending on what's going on. Maybe summers, if we could get someone to take care of the house. Depending on cost and location, this sounds interesting. I've kind of been looking at OH, W.VA. and PA.

-t

 

[GunnyFreedom]

I'd be interested. East of the Mississippi one of the best areas is the Cumberland Plateau. Consider that if the S does HTF, geography will be more important than whatever government happened to fail around you. Out west, I like the MT/WY border, but that's a bit more northern than I like and hard to grow food.

 

[pcosmar]

I completely respect your stance. Moving somewhere remote with just our families and close friends remains an option.

No plans of moving again. I am here.
But, not knowing exactly where my feet will take me,, it would be nice to be welcomed if I visit.

I am hoping that there will be many pockets of liberty minded people. Scattered throughout the country.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

The midwest is a good place, dakotasshould work. Very fertile land and low population so buying land should not be a problem.

It would be fascinating if even a relatively small number of people moved into a quaint midwest town.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

My wife has property in Virginia in the Blue Ridge Mountains, and we've been thinking of moving there eventually. Would be great to have liberty minded people in the area. I've thought about buying more property there, also.

 

[tod evans]

My wife has property in Virginia in the Blue Ridge Mountains, and we've been thinking of moving there eventually. Would be great to have liberty minded people in the area. I've thought about buying more property there, also.

Holy shit!

+rep, Family dirt/mountains/game/et-al!