If the current CR continues Biden level spending, does that mean the BBB didn't cut spending?

[oyarde]

What study from MIT are you referring to?

Jul 16 2021 article from the hill , by Christian Spencer
sited 1970s MIT Ltg model ( 1972 if I recall) predicted fall of American society about 2040 . If I recall it was in 71 when Nixon instituted wage and price controls and dollars no longer could be exchanged for gold so even though paper currency had been out of control since civil war now it moved to purely a fiat currency . LTG meaning limit to growth .As you can see fron yr 2ooo to 2024 the 1.9 gdp avg isnt helping once combined with deficit spending even while raking in record tax revenue in an upward cycle for over past decade.

 

[nikcers]

No.

Can you believe it's still talking like Republicans spend less in 2025, after all the money Trump has given Pfizer, Israel and his new Space Force toy?

How much money did the Republicans give Pfizer, Israel, and space force toy?

Is it more or less than the over a trillion dollar package the inflation reduction act
( Green New Scam )

 

[oyarde]

71 also last yr no silver in a half dollar coin. If you wanted silver , had to get a Five mark West German coin, I was still able to get those in mid 80s for a little less than 2 FRNs , in country from circulation , about 3/8 oz.real money was hard to come by. South Africa had one oz gold Krugerrands ( started 67 I think) you could buy sovereigns in London.US mint didnt start making gold or silver eagles until 1986

 

[TheCount]

Seems like a radical claim. Source?

We spent more after it was passed than before.

 

[acptulsa]

How much money did the Republicans give Pfizer, Israel, and space force toy?

Is it more or less than the over a trillion dollar package the inflation reduction act
( Green New Scam )

Hate to burst your little artificial bubble, but the biggest spender ever was Trump and the Biden Autopen brought it partly back down since.

Republicans are good at blowing money, stupid bot.

 

[Invisible Man]

How much money did the Republicans give Pfizer, Israel, and space force toy?

Is it more or less than the over a trillion dollar package the inflation reduction act
( Green New Scam )

I agree with your assessment of the Inflation Reduction Act, which makes it all the more noteworthy that since Republicans have gained power, they have governed with such an extreme leftwing agenda that even after the Inflation Reduction Act, they told the Democrats to hold their beer and have continued to increase spending to even higher levels.

 

[nikcers]

I agree with your assessment of the Inflation Reduction Act, which makes it all the more noteworthy that since Republicans have gained power, they have governed with such an extreme leftwing agenda that even after the Inflation Reduction Act, they told the Democrats to hold their beer and have continued to increase spending to even higher levels.

No the cap to the Inflation Reduction Act were put on by the Republican controlled house.

They ended the climate change scam the democrats were doing.

That was the first thing the Republicans passed.

That bill guaranteed year over year spending increases.

 

[nikcers]

Hate to burst your little artificial bubble, but the biggest spender ever was Trump and the Biden Autopen brought it partly back down since.

Republicans are good at blowing money, stupid bot.

Republicans didn't do that spending in your chart.

The democrats took control over the Senate and the House in the mid terms and did that spending.

 

[Invisible Man]

No the cap to the Inflation Reduction Act were put on by the Republican controlled house.

They ended the climate change scam the democrats were doing.

That was the first thing the Republicans passed.

That bill guaranteed year over year spending increases.

Oh OK. And when will these changes take effect, so that we can see federal spending in year X+1 being less than it was in year X?

 

[nikcers]

Oh OK. And when will these changes take effect, so that we can see federal spending in year X+1 being less than it was in year X?

They take effect for the budget the Republicans passed.

For the next year governing calender year.

Since thats the way the congress years start. Congress doesn't start the calender year on Jan 1

Congress a long time ago started to use a different calender year for their budgets.

So the Republicans wrote the cuts into the bill into the next budgeting calender year for the government.

 

[Invisible Man]

They take effect for the budget the Republicans passed.

For the next year governing calender year.

Since thats the way the congress years start. Congress doesn't start the calender year on Jan 1

Congress a long time ago started to use a different calender year for their budgets.

So the Republicans wrote the cuts into the bill into the next budgeting calender year for the government.

So you're saying federal spending in 2026 will be lower than 2025?

Great. There's our test then to see if you're right. I trust that if it turns out the federal government spends more in 2026 than it did in 2025, you will change your verdict about the Republicans.

 

[nikcers]

So you're saying federal spending in 2026 will be lower than 2025?

Great. There's our test then to see if you're right. I trust that if it turns out the federal government spends more in 2026 than it did in 2025, you will change your verdict about the Republicans.

It depends on how many projects get built.

They capped it at July 4th.

Projects must have begun construction on or before July 4, 2026.

That was what the big fight over getting it signed was. They barely got even that passed. It was a party line vote at 50 votes and JD Vance had to be the tie breaker.

They didnt want to yank it away from people who were already invested.

 

[Invisible Man]

It depends on how many projects get built.

They capped it at July 4th.

Projects must have begun construction on or before July 4, 2026.

That was what the big fight over getting it signed was. They barely got even that passed. It was a party line vote at 50 votes and JD Vance had to be the tie breaker.

They didnt want to yank it away from people who were already invested.

It looks like you're all set with excuses for spending in 2026 being higher than 2025.

How about 2027. Will spending go down then? Or will it still keep going up?

 

[nikcers]

It looks like you're all set with excuses for spending in 2026 being higher than 2025.

How about 2027. Will spending go down then? Or will it still keep going up?

Well the democrats definitely wont vote to cap and end the green new deal subsidies.

Those programs are the ones that get them elected.

They would have kept it going forever.

If you just yank it away its no good though.

If people spend a bunch of money on getting loans and writing contracts and getting permits and you yank the money out of their hands they will lose a lot of money if they try to cancel those contracts.

People tend to not like you if you financially ruin them. Its not only just not nice.

I can definitely say when the caps take effect on July 4 the government will be spending less than if that program wasn't capped.

The war on fake climate change was one of the most expensive rackets the democrats have ever cooked up.

Not only did the Republicans end it but Europe is now paying for their own defense.

Germany just bought patriot missle defense systems from the USA and sent them to Ukraine.

When the democrats were in power we were paying for Europe's defense.

Ukraine gets more US-made air defense systems to counter deadly Russian attacks

Ukraine has received more U.S.-made Patriot air defense systems to counter Russia's attacks, according to President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

apnews.com

 

[Invisible Man]

Well the democrats definitely wont vote to cap and end the green new deal subsidies.

Those programs are the ones that get them elected.

They would have kept it going forever.

If you just yank it away its no good though.

If people spend a bunch of money on getting loans and writing contracts and getting permits and you yank the money out of their hands they will lose a lot of money if they try to cancel those contracts.

People tend to not like you if you financially ruin them. Its not only just not nice.

I can definitely say when the caps take effect on July 4 the government will be spending less than if that program wasn't capped.

The war on fake climate change was one of the most expensive rackets the democrats have ever cooked up.

Not only did the Republicans end it but Europe is now paying for their own defense.

Germany just bought patriot missle defense systems from the USA and sent them to Ukraine.

When the democrats were in power we were paying for Europe's defense.

Ukraine gets more US-made air defense systems to counter deadly Russian attacks

Ukraine has received more U.S.-made Patriot air defense systems to counter Russia's attacks, according to President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

apnews.com

OK, you already have all your excuses set for spending to keep going up every year as a result of Republicans having control of both houses of Congress and the White House.

In that case, I'm not sure what I've said that you disagree with.

 

[nikcers]

OK, you already have all your excuses set for spending to keep going up every year as a result of Republicans having control of both houses of Congress and the White House.

In that case, I'm not sure what I've said that you disagree with.

I too would prefer if the government would financially ruin my political enemies.

I am just going to have to settle for a government that won't bankrupt the country funding democrat scams.

Thats the point. If you want the democrat scams to continue then vote Democrat or don't vote republican so the democrats win. Thats your choice.

 

[Invisible Man]

I am just going to have to settle for a government that won't bankrupt the country funding democrat scams.

Based on your comments here, and your support for Trump and the Republican party continuing to increase spending every year even beyond the levels Biden attained, you are settling for a government that will bankrupt the country, not a government that won't.

 

[nikcers]

Based on your comments here, and your support for Trump and the Republican party continuing to increase spending every year even beyond the levels Biden attained, you are settling for a government that will bankrupt the country, not a government that won't.

No the Republican party ended the Democrat scam.

The one where they where the USA was subsidizing Europe's defense and the one where the USA was subsidizing Europe's energy costs and the one where the USA was subsidizing Europe's medical costs.

Under the Republicans with Trump Europe is paying for their own defense and Europe is paying for their own energy and Trump is also fighting against big pharma which subsidized Europe's medicine costs because the USA pays more for the same medicine which lowers the cost Europe pays for it.

He also is getting Korea and Japan to pay for their own defense.

We all know what happened with communism in Europe because with socialism you always run out of other people's money.

There's no such thing as a free lunch.

In our country the democrats just called it "systemic racism" and "climate change". They also set tax rates that sent jobs to other countries instead of ours.

 

[Invisible Man]

No the Republican party ended the Democrat scam.

Oh OK. Great! So what year will we see spending be less than the year before?

 

[oyarde]

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Oh OK. Great! So what year will we see spending be less than the year before?

the year after it collapses