If someone is a Christian, it is a contradiction to be a democrat!

[Zippyjuan]

The Bible says that to reach the Kingdom you must feed the hungry, clothe the naked. Democrats are more likely to favor programs that help the poor but neither party has any totally or exclusively moral position.

Then the King will tell those on his right hand, 'Come, blessed of my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; 35 for I was hungry, and you gave me food to eat. I was thirsty, and you gave me drink. I was a stranger, and you took me in. 36 I was naked, and you clothed me. I was sick, and you visited me. I was in prison, and you came to me.' 37 "Then the righteous will answer him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry, and feed you; or thirsty, and give you a drink? 38 When did we see you as a stranger, and take you in; or naked, and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick, or in prison, and come to you?' 40 "The King will answer them, 'Most certainly I tell you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.'

41 Then he will say also to those on the left hand, 'Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels; 42 for I was hungry, and you didn't give me food to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me no drink; 43 I was a stranger, and you didn't take me in; naked, and you didn't clothe me; sick, and in prison, and you didn't visit me.' 44 "Then they will also answer, saying, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and didn't help you?' 45 "Then he will answer them, saying, 'Most certainly I tell you, inasmuch as you didn't do it to one of the least of these, you didn't do it to me.' 46 These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."

Jesus did not lilke politics. "Give unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar's and give unto God that which is God's." I don't think he would have a favorite party.

A candidate who claims to speak for a religious group would make me less likely to vote for him- even if I agreed with them on other issues.
One of my older favorite quotes: "The Moral Majority Is Neither".
I also do not like the term "Religious Right"
I equally distrust those who try to wrap themselves too tightly in the flag or the cross.

 

[Kade]

Preemptive war is not something Bush, Christians, or the Republicans invented.

Turn around for a second, you will find your precious glass home shattered in a million pieces.

You don't know my home, nor should you pretend to act like you do.

 

[familydog]

What's with all this "us vs. them" crap? YOU CHRISTIANS!! YOU ATHEISTS!! Maybe someday the world will become enlightened and not lump people togather in groups. The irony is all over. Some people here say they hate identity politics, but have no problem using it when it suits their needs.

 

[jmdrake]

If someone is a Christian, it is a contradiction to be a democrat!

Democrats are pro-choice, Jesus does not support Murdering babies!!

THOU SHALT NOT MURDER!
1 of the 10 commandments!

Thus if someone is a Christian, it is a contradiction to be a democrat!

Oh yeah, and GOD says Homosexuality is a "ABOMINATION" and democrats support Gay rights.... i.e.... Adoption, marriage, ect...

Thus if someone is a Christian, it is a contradiction to be a democrat!

Jesus also didn't support pre-emptive wars based on lies. Both sides of the RepubliCrat / DemoPublican party are morally bankrupt and unworthy of support. Yet Ron Paul has chosen to work from within the Republican party. Some people who love freedom have chosen to work from within the democratic party. (Yes there are pro life democrats). I have nothing against anyone who puts principle over party and neither does Dr. Paul.

Regards,

John M. Drake

 

[Kade]

What's with all this "us vs. them" crap? YOU CHRISTIANS!! YOU ATHEISTS!! Maybe someday the world will become enlightened and not lump people togather in groups. The irony is all over. Some people here say they hate identity politics, but have no problem using it when it suits their needs.

To be perfectly honest, you were one of the ones who made me feel specifically out of place when I originally tried to bring some unity to the issue. No offense, but you are one of the worst people I've ever had to deal with online, since I got my first computer and IRC, in 1989. I don't want to be associated with anything you stand for, ever. If there is a divide, it is people like you and Theocrat, and what you stand for, and abomination of a theocratic government, and the destruction of all righteous principles that guide decent folk.

But by all means, take the high horse this time.

 

[familydog]

To be perfectly honest, you were one of the ones who made me feel specifically out of place when I originally tried to bring some unity to the issue. No offense, but you are one of the worst people I've ever had to deal with online, since I got my first computer and IRC, in 1989. I don't want to be associated with anything you stand for, ever. If there is a divide, it is people like you and Theocrat, and what you stand for, and abomination of a theocratic government, and the destruction of all righteous principles that guide decent folk.

But by all means, take the high horse this time.

What do I stand for that you don't like? Please, enlighten me. Being vague plays into your innocent routine.

By the way. I've never called you out personally and attacked you like you have done to me. So, as you say, by all means take the high road.

 

[LibertyEagle]

and if you choose to worship him, and follow him, you have to follow what he says..... Murdering babies is not something he condones, neither is being gay. infact, it's a sin.

The Word of God says that people that are lookwarm will be spit out of his mouth.

There are a whole lot of things that are sins.

Here is one of my favorite passages from the Bible....

1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

 

[Kade]

By the way. I've never called you out personally and attacked you like you have done to me. So, as you say, by all means take the high road.

Not all non-believers are idiots, but a bunch of them are

Make sure the priest doesn't say his masses in Latin though

The court decided that atheism is a religion and must be protected.

I happen to find those, within the few minutes it took to find them, offensive. But that's me...

 

[jmdrake]

The entire premise of this thread is retarded. Each party has been taken over by people who don't share the ideals it was founded on. For example the democrats were the original "states rights" party. I don't find John McCain any more "Christian" than Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama. I was also surprised to find out that the head of the John Birch Society that got killed when the Russians shot down that Korean airliner years ago was a democrat. If you think one party is better than the other than you've missed the point of the rEVOLution. Ron Paul is great because he's willing to stick to principle even when it means going against party.

Regards,

John M. Drake

 

[familydog]

I happen to find those, within the few minutes it took to find them, offensive. But that's me...

Erm, how does that prove anything? I wasn't calling anyone out personally attacking them. So, what do I stand for that you find so repugnant? I'm asking again, enlighten me.

In fact, that last statement is a fact. It wasn't interpretation. It's no different than saying "Thomas Jefferson was the main author of the Delcaration of Independence." I was saying exaclty what the court found.

 

[familydog]

The entire premise of this thread is retarded. Each party has been taken over by people who don't share the ideals it was founded on. For example the democrats were the original "states rights" party. I don't find John McCain any more "Christian" than Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama. I was also surprised to find out that the head of the John Birch Society that got killed when the Russians shot down that Korean airliner years ago was a democrat. If you think one party is better than the other than you've missed the point of the rEVOLution. Ron Paul is great because he's willing to stick to principle even when it means going against party.

Regards,

John M. Drake

I agree

 

[ARealConservative]

You don't know my home, nor should you pretend to act like you do.

You have proven yourself to be a dipshit time and time again. Your hypocrisy is getting pretty old.

You obviously wish to pursue the red state versus blue state mentality because that is all your limited intellect can grasp. Congrats, you are the perfect useless tool.

 

[LittleLightShining]

Is this necessary? Some people agree. Some people disagree. Some who disagree agree to disagree. Some who disagree choose to fight. This need to spiral down into name calling and being offended and WHATEVER in just about every thread with the words Christian and atheist in it is what's really retarded. There's no point to it. You handful of arguers just get all ruffled and give each other more reasons to argue. It's a waste of time and energy. Grow up.

 

[Dr.3D]

Is this necessary? Some people agree. Some people disagree. Some who disagree agree to disagree. Some who disagree choose to fight. This need to spiral down into name calling and being offended and WHATEVER in just about every thread with the words Christian and atheist in it is what's really retarded. There's no point to it. You handful of arguers just get all ruffled and give each other more reasons to argue. It's a waste of time and energy. Grow up.

+1000

I totally agree!

 

[ARealConservative]

Is this necessary? Some people agree. Some people disagree. Some who disagree agree to disagree. Some who disagree choose to fight. This need to spiral down into name calling and being offended and WHATEVER in just about every thread with the words Christian and atheist in it is what's really retarded. There's no point to it. You handful of arguers just get all ruffled and give each other more reasons to argue. It's a waste of time and energy. Grow up.

Kade gives atheists a bad name.

He is a hypocrite with little common sense on display.

As an atheist, I get annoyed when I see this type of behavior. We clearly have failed in self policing. Sorry!

 

[acptulsa]

Kade gives atheists a bad name.

As an atheist, I get annoyed...

Sometimes I think Kade is just trying to cattle prod the level of debate up a notch. Sort of like a humorless yongrel...

Have faith in the forum guidelines. If you can't say something nice, find some links that will rip his argument to shreds.

That'll get him!

 

[Dr.3D]

Sometimes I think Kade is just trying to cattle prod the level of debate up a notch. Sort of like a humorless yongrel...

Have faith in the forum guidelines. If you can't say something nice, find some links that will rip his argument to shreds.

That'll get him!

Better not to argue about it at all... it just feeds the problem.

 

[LittleLightShining]

Better not to argue about it at all... it just feeds the problem.

+8000

 

[jmdrake]

Interesting how your religion is twisted for political gain.

Most Christians were once Democrat... abortion was an evil, but a necessary allowance. Now, you have politicized the church, and it, as an entity of the antipathy, contrary to every principle of freedom, twists itself into compliance to the group most willing to secure you room in the feeding trough.

To shame with most of you Christians, and what your vote did to this country in the last 8 years.

I'm not sure where you get your sense of history from. When was there a time that most Christians were "democrat"? During the time of Lincoln there were Christian republicans who were against slavery as well as Christian democrats who supported it. (And before some neoconfederate pipes I yes I know that there were other issues in the civil war besides just slavery but that was the major moral issue of the time.) Down through the years members of both parties have wrapped themselves in the Bible and the flag. During the civil rights struggle you had pro integration and pro segregation "Christian" democrats as well as republicans. And up until Roe vs. Wade abortion general was not seen as a "necessary evil". It was seen as a decision to be left up to the states. Some states allowed abortion. Many banned it except for the most extreme circumstances. Since it was an issue that was decided locally there was no reason for any national political movement against it.

Regards,

John M. Drake

 

[ARealConservative]

+8000

allowing him to carry on unimpeded is no good either.

Instead of arguing, just call a spade a spade, and then move on.
That way others come in reading his nonsense and quickly realize he has no pull in this particular movement. We are not keen on religious bigotry here.