If Ron Paul loses, I'm leaving the country.

[Korey Kaczynski]

...because I feel like a foreigner in the country I was born in.

Any ideas what's a tolerable place to live in? I would like something with decent gun laws (sort of a litmus test), and fairly lax regulations regarding my own life. Unfortunately, I don't think anywhere in the world is like that. It seems the entire world was listening when Marx uttered his bullshit .

Any ideas?

 

[JoshLowry]

You could move to a state with like minded people and get the state to secede from the United States.

 

[Korey Kaczynski]

You could move to a state with like minded people and get the state to secede from the United States.

Hah, that sounds nice too. Maybe I'd have to wait for the foretold economic collapse when things are ripe for reform.

 

[axiomata]

You could move to a state with like minded people and get the state to secede from the United States.

I know this isn't really on topic, but this is the only issue that I can think of that many libertarians deem lawful/right that I strongly disagree with. I have not seen a good argument as to why a state should be able to annul their membership in the union for any non-excruciating reason. People of course are free to leave the country or move to a state hoping to become a majority there but the concept of succession just seems to go against everything a federated republic is.

http://www.usa-patriotism.com/speeches/dwebster1.htm

 

[Captain Shays]

I have two choices if Ron Paul doesn't get elected.

1) Leave the country

2) build a bunker and hunker down with my stockpile of food and ammo with as many like minded patriots that I can find.

It will come down to an armed revolution if we can't do this in the ballot box. Mark my words

This is it. Its may very well be our last chance to preserve liberty and sovereignty as a nation.

 

[Korey Kaczynski]

I know this isn't really on topic, but this is the only issue that I can think of that many libertarians deem lawful/right that I strongly disagree with. I have not seen a good argument as to why a state should be able to annul their membership in the union for any non-excruciating reason. People of course are free to leave the country or move to a state hoping to become a majority there but the concept of succession just seems to go against everything a federated republic is.

http://www.usa-patriotism.com/speeches/dwebster1.htm

Hmm, have you seen the state of our country? I think that's an excruciating reason.

 

[austinphish]

well it is a State's right to secede

I know this isn't really on topic, but this is the only issue that I can think of that many libertarians deem lawful/right that I strongly disagree with. I have not seen a good argument as to why a state should be able to annul their membership in the union for any non-excruciating reason. People of course are free to leave the country or move to a state hoping to become a majority there but the concept of succession just seems to go against everything a federated republic is.

http://www.usa-patriotism.com/speeches/dwebster1.htm

It is a State's Constitutional right to secede. Just because the all powerful Union came crashing down, doesn't mean that it was unconstitutional.

If you read Ron Paul, you will know that he thinks the American Civil War should never have been fought.

 

[tsoldrin]

I have seen no place which is perfect for escape. If you had enough people gathered, you might start a flotilla city-state on the high seas. If it were profitable enough you could eventually manufacture artificial islands like they're doing in dubai. Personally, I'm planning the hunker down approach. Though, I think folks that take that route will end up being an anomally under the new structure which will certainly have only two classes... the elite and the serfs.

 

[Kregener]

Don't run...you will just die tired.

If you let them run you out of the country of your birth against your will, you have ceded your natural rights, and totally missed the intent of the 2nd Amendment.

 

[austinphish]

READ THIS - exactly on topic

http://www.stateofworldliberty.org/report/results.html

 

[aravoth]

I won't leave. I will take it back, by any means available. When asked by my child, "what were you doing when facism came to this country". I refuse to honestly say that I sat back, and let it happen, that I participated in it.

One person can't do everything, but no-one when speaking of me will ever be able to say that I didn't do all that I could.

 

[mdh]

You could move to a state with like minded people and get the state to secede from the United States.

I seem to remember the last secession attempt not going so well. Something about Charleston SC and Atlanta GA burning... >.>

 

[X_805]

I haven't fully formed my opinion on secession, but I do know that the original British colonies in the Americas did essentially secede from Britain. So are we suggesting that we had no right to break away from Britain when we revolted?

I still have some research to do on that.

 

[beermotor]

...because I feel like a foreigner in the country I was born in.

Any ideas what's a tolerable place to live in? I would like something with decent gun laws (sort of a litmus test), and fairly lax regulations regarding my own life. Unfortunately, I don't think anywhere in the world is like that. It seems the entire world was listening when Marx uttered his bullshit .

Any ideas?

Most countries are very hard to get into. I personally love Iceland (not sure how they are on gun laws, then again, you don't need 'em). You could probably do fairly well in Northern Canada, though. Honestly, Alaska probably ain't a bad choice either, if you just want to be left alone.

 

[dude58677]

Mauritius

 

[Korey Kaczynski]

Most countries are very hard to get into. I personally love Iceland (not sure how they are on gun laws, then again, you don't need 'em). You could probably do fairly well in Northern Canada, though. Honestly, Alaska probably ain't a bad choice either, if you just want to be left alone.

A deserted tropical island sounds good

 

[beermotor]

I love the Internet too much. Iceland it is!

 

[Bojangleman]

One word: Montana!

http://www.freestateproject.org/archives/state_reports/montana3

 

[Korey Kaczynski]

One word: Montana!

http://www.freestateproject.org/archives/state_reports/montana3

I'll have to follow my namesake.

 

[winston84]

Living in southern California; immigration is a hot topic for me. If Ron Paul does not win, thus allowing for the so-called "Immigration Reform" to pass, I will eventually be moving to Oregon.

Ironically enough, Oregon's immigration laws are even more lax than the ones here in California, but it would take several decades for any part of Oregon to look like So Cali.