If Romney beats McCain today this thing is still wide open

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If we can't win today, we need Romney to win.

If McCain wins the establishment will close ranks behind him to "stop Huckabee".

A McCain win knocks Romney out, and as the neocon candidates fall it will become harder to win anywhere.

A Romney win with McCain a close second keeps everybody standing and is the max pain point for the establishment.
 
The best outcome would be for McCain to squeak it out over Romney, then vice versa next week in Michigan. We need Romney and McCain to stay in WITHOUT the image of the race being 'settled' through Super Tuesday, to blunt Giuliani. Paul prevails long term after most of these contenders run out of money and quit.
 
No, and I hate to say it, we need to McCain to win if we can't do it ourselves. If Romney wins he could scoop up Michigan, Nevada and South Carolina in one fell swoop with his money and momentum and then would be unstoppable. While a McCain win, while big for him, still won't offset the fact he has limited funds and is despised as much as we are by many Republicans. The race stays fluid with a McCain victory.
 
Indeed, a McCain win in New Hampshire is best. Then a Romney win in Michigan and/or Nevada, and then maybe a Huckabee or Thompson win in South Carolina, presuming Ron Paul doesn't win any of those.
 
OK, I think you people forget that there are those who will vote for the "other " candidates, and those who will vote for ron paul. It's just a matter of letting those who will vote for him know that he exists, and that they CAN vote for him in the primaries.
 
Heres to hoping it would be good for Ron to win some states. California perhaps?
 
If it comes down to Mccain or Huckabee vs Obama in the general election, mark my words, Obama will be our next president.

Romney and Paul are the only candidates who can save the GOP.
 
If Romney finds himself with a fighting chance he will just write himself a big ole' check. Better that he gets wiped out and McCain has to campaign with the 12 dollars in his pocket.
 
I'm not sure. The establishment didn't like McCain in 2000, that's why he only won states with large independent populations (NH, Michigan) and lost in red meat Republican land like South Carolina etc. So, even if Romney loses, he is still the guy, in my opinion.
 
Ron paul is taking California fo sho...but, we need different people to win each state considering its not Dr. Paul. The biggest threat to the campaign is when the media annoints someone as the for sure candidate like they are doing now with Obama. As long as Dr. Paul can keep doing better and beats a few front runners in each one, then he will be setting himself up for a big Feb. 5th showdown.

All of the other guys have started to focus on their preferred state, which is really spreading out the vote. But Paul is a 50 candidate guy, so once people know its OK to vote for him and he can get delegates, we are in fat city.

McCain: He is finished after New Hampshire, he has no money and he couldn't get any votes even in 2000 after a huge upset win in NH.
Romney: Still a threat, but if he loses in 2 more states he will in no way be a sure thing and the others are really pilling on top of him now.
Huckabee: Only an issue if the others falter bad and he wins by default, but he's not going to come close to winning any big states like Cali, NY, or Florida. so he won't have many delegates
Julie Annie: This guy is finished, he has no money, got smoked in Iowa, about to be embarrased in NH, even after visiting the state 40 times. By the time Florida comes by he doesn't have a chance.
Thompson: Once he wakes up from his nap and finishes talking about him being the only consistent conservative, he will realize that the election was 6 months ago.

Paul: Money in the bank, increasing support, can finish top 3 in dozens of states, will receive a boost after NH with a 4th place or above finish. Appeals to a lot of outsiders and can work with democrats in the general election, Hell kucinich supports him!! How will the Dem's defend their anti war position when they say they want withdrawl in 1 year and Paul wants it now.


Don't worry guys, this is going to work out just fine.
 
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Obama winning the nomination is the worst thing that could possibly happen to the mainstream GOP. All of the media annointed GOP contenders have focused on Hillary; Obama has blindsided them. I absolutely do not forsee a republican victory over Obama with any candidate other than Ron Paul. Paul is the only person who can draw Obama's base of support.

If Obama wins the nomination, a non-Paul GOP nominee will get trounced like a McGovern.
 
McCain can be taken out TODAY. We want him out.

McCain is a fucking war monger and a danger to this nation. Mitt is just a business guy who I doubt is much of a war monger.
 
No, and I hate to say it, we need to McCain to win if we can't do it ourselves. If Romney wins he could scoop up Michigan, Nevada and South Carolina in one fell swoop with his money and momentum and then would be unstoppable. While a McCain win, while big for him, still won't offset the fact he has limited funds and is despised as much as we are by many Republicans. The race stays fluid with a McCain victory.

Yup!

My only concern is how the media touts John McCain as the candidate of the independents. Unfortunately, Dr Paul needs to be that candidate!

We are fighting against Obama right now folks. We have GOT to get those indies/dems voting for the ONLY Anti-war candidate out there!!
 
Yes, ideally Romney knocks out McCain today. Willard may base his beliefs on the polls, adjusted for his audience of the moment, but at least he's not so religiously committed to a 100 year occupation of Iraq (for starters).

Then Huckleberry can knock Thompson out in South Carolina. Contrary to popular belief, I believe we'll see some positive movement with less people in the race. Notice that Paul's favorable ratings are triple to quadruple the support he gets in the same polls.

It would then be a four-way fight (counting Paul) in Florida. Huckleberry may very well win it, which possibly sets him up to be the frontrunner. Julie is mostly a liberal, while Romney only recently became a "Reagan conservative," whereas Paul has consistent conservative credentials, so I could see him rising as the anti-Huckleberry. Huck has even blasted Bush's foreign policy, so Paul is far less "extreme" when compared to him instead of, say, McCain.

I can see this coming down to Huckleberry, Romney or Julie Annie, and Paul after February 5th.
 
Romney may take MI. Not much else except UT.

Fred and Huckabee will be the big stories in SC.
 
No, and I hate to say it, we need to McCain to win if we can't do it ourselves. If Romney wins he could scoop up Michigan, Nevada and South Carolina in one fell swoop with his money and momentum and then would be unstoppable. While a McCain win, while big for him, still won't offset the fact he has limited funds and is despised as much as we are by many Republicans. The race stays fluid with a McCain victory.

exactly. a McCain win is something that CAN be passed off as a NH fluke. he won the state before, and they like him without knowing him. he spent everything there, campaigned almost exclusively there.
 
Obama winning the nomination is the worst thing that could possibly happen to the mainstream GOP. All of the media annointed GOP contenders have focused on Hillary; Obama has blindsided them. I absolutely do not forsee a republican victory over Obama with any candidate other than Ron Paul. Paul is the only person who can draw Obama's base of support.

If Obama wins the nomination, a non-Paul GOP nominee will get trounced like a McGovern.

Exactly. SOMEONE in the GOP has to realize that? Maybe they are counting on latent racism?
 
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