Iceland, a land of Vikings, braces for a Pirate Party takeover

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REYKJAVIK, ICELAND — The party that could be on the cusp of winning Iceland’s national elections on Saturday didn’t exist four years ago.

Its members are a collection of anarchists, hackers, libertarians and Web geeks. It sets policy through online polls — and thinks the government should do the same. It wants to make Iceland “a Switzerland of bits,” free of digital snooping. It has offered Edward Snowden a new place to call home.

And then there’s the name: In this land of Vikings, the Pirate Party may soon be king.

The rise of the Pirates — from radical fringe to focal point of Icelandic politics — has astonished even the party’s founder, a poet, Web programmer and former WikiLeaks activist.

“No way,” said 49-year-old Birgitta Jónsdóttir when asked whether she could have envisioned her party governing the country so soon after its launch

But this, after all, is 2016. And to a string of electoral impossibilities that suddenly became reality — including Britain voting for Brexit and Donald Trump winning the Republican nomination — the world may soon add a Pirate Party-led government in Europe.

Victory for the Pirates may not mean much in isolation. This exceptionally scenic, lava-strewn rock just beyond the Arctic Circle has a population less than half that of Washington, D.C., with no army and an economy rooted in tourism and fishing.

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But a Pirate Party win would offer a vivid illustration of how far Europeans are willing to go in their rejection of the political mainstream, adding to a string of insurgent triumphs emanating from both the far left and far right.

To Jónsdóttir and other Pirate true believers — who define their party as neither left nor right, but a radical movement that combines the best of both — the election here could also be the start of the reboot that Western democracy so desperately needs.

“People want real changes and they understand that we have to change the systems, we have to modernize how we make laws,” said Jónsdóttir, whose jet-black hair and matching nail polish cut a distinctive profile in a country where politics has long been dominated by paunchy blond men.

The sticker affixed to the back of her chrome-finish laptop stands out, too: an imitation seal of the U.S. government, the familiar arrow-bearing eagle encircled by the words “National Security Agency Monitored Device.” At the Pirates’ tech-start-up-esque office in an industrial area of Reykjavik’s seafront, a Guy Fawkes mask hangs from the wall and a skull-and-crossbones flag peeks out from a ceramic vase.

Iceland is, in some ways, a strange place for such a rogue movement to flourish. The country is one of earth’s most equitable, most peaceful and most prosperous. Home to the world’s oldest parliament — it traces its origins back to a gathering of Norse settlers in A.D. 930 — this remote island nation that can feel more like a small, genteel town is not known for political turbulence.

But Iceland has been afflicted by the same anti-establishment fervor that has swept the rest of the Western world in recent years.

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In many ways, the alienation from politics has been even more acute here. The 2008 global financial crisis brought the once highflying economy to ruin, saved only by a $4.6 billion international bailout. Bankers went to jail, and a street protest movement was born.

The populist spirit was revved up once again this past spring when the leak of the Panama Papers revealed an offshore company owned by the prime minister’s wife that staked a claim to Iceland’s collapsed banks. The perceived conflict of interest brought thousands of protesters to the streets, a crowd that, as a share of the overall population, was equal to as many as 21 million people in the United States.

With protests building, the prime minister quit and new elections were called. But the public’s cynicism about a political system long steered by an insider clique only deepened.

“The distrust that had long been germinating has now exploded. The Pirates are riding on that wave,” said Ragnheithur Kristjánsdóttir, a political history professor at the University of Iceland. “We’ve had new parties before, and then they’ve faded. What’s surprising is that they’re maintaining their momentum.”

The Pirates, part of an international movement of the same name, are not the only ones seizing on the country’s discontented political spirit. Several new parties have surged and could well set Iceland’s direction for the next four years. Meanwhile, parties that have traded power in Iceland for decades are bumping along in polls at historic lows.

Outsiders may regard the idea of a government run by Pirates as a joke. But “the voters think a joke is better than what we have now,” said Benedikt Jóhannesson, leader of another insurgent party that is even younger than the Pirates and has also earned substantial support.

Jóhannesson hastens to add that he doesn’t see the Pirates as a joke. His buttoned-down party is made up of technocrats, academics and business executives, a far cry from the punk-rock, hacker spirit of the Pirates.

But the two may be in coalition talks after the election if, as expected, no party comes anywhere near the majority needed to govern. He may not agree with the Pirates on many issues, he said, but at least they share a belief in the need for fundamental change.

“Some of our parties have been around for 100 years,” said Jóhannesson, fresh off a 10-hour drive back from a campaign swing through the remote Icelandic countryside. “But the systems that worked in, say, the 1960s don’t necessarily work for the 2010s.”

Not everyone is so gung-ho about calls for radical change.

The latest opinion polls show the Pirates jostling for first place with the Independence Party. The center-right party is synonymous with Iceland’s political establishment, having governed the country for much of its modern history. But it was badly tarnished by its stewardship of the bubble economy in the lead-up to the 2008 crash.

“People are still angry at us for that,” acknowledged Birgir Ármannsson, an Independence member of Parliament. “There’s still a lot of distrust in traditional politics and traditional politicians.”

That’s understandable given the scale of Iceland’s economic meltdown, Ármannsson said. But he also said voters should give the current government, of which Independence is a junior partner, credit for Iceland’s economic revival. Now out of the doldrums, the country is back to low unemployment, low inflation and a balanced budget — all of which could be at risk if the Pirates come to power.

“You can try experiments,” said the suit-and-tie clad Ármannsson in an interview at the country’s 19th-century stone Parliament building. “But if you want economic stability and growth, then you have to vote for us.”

Ármannsson questioned what the Pirates actually represent: “They know what they’re against. But it’s difficult to find out what they’re really for.”

Indeed, the Pirates have spelled out their positions on issues from fishing quotas to online pornography to Snowden. (Party leaders offered him Icelandic citizenship if he can find a way to get here.) But on some of the biggest questions facing the country, the official party position is to punt to the voters.

Whether Iceland should join the European Union, for instance, is a debate that has raged in the country for years. But the Pirates have not taken a stand, insisting instead that the matter should be decided in a national referendum.

Some of the party’s signature proposals, meanwhile, are vaguely defined. The Pirates were born in Sweden as a movement to counter digital copyright laws. But the party’s proposal to make Iceland “a digital safe haven,” much like Switzerland is for banking, is hazy on the details.

To party devotees, that’s fine. The Pirates, they say, are less about any specific ideology than they are about a belief that the West’s creaking political systems can be hacked to give citizens a greater say in their democracy.

“We are not here to gain power,” said Ásta Guthrún Helgadóttir, a 26-year-old Pirate member of Parliament. “We are here to distribute power.”



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The Panama Papers had a lot to do with the change of leadership in Iceland.
Pirate Party good luck but have you ever written a government contract where the road that gets built actually stands for 20 years - maintenance included in the price?
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hikingapacheria
10:55 AM GMT+0800
Snowden is a traitor. He divulged exceptional secrets learned in the NSA. He is no hero. If he tries to get to Iceland from Russia, good luck on that. If Iceland hands over the reins to Assange & Snowden, I imagine there will be a price to be paid. Fine. Two traitors or men charged with sex charges in Sweden. Iceland can play all the maverik games it wishes. They are not invincible in a modern world. This helps to zero in on possible wikileaks key figures, as well.
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cliffro99
11:05 AM GMT+0800
Snowden is a hero. The government is the traitor. All of it
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Morgendorffer
10:52 AM GMT+0800
"a Guy Fawkes mask hangs from the wall"

Dismissed, kiddos.
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Austrolib
10:51 AM GMT+0800
"Outsiders may regard the idea of a government run by Pirates as a joke."

How dare the common people try and run their own country!
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bluebella
11:08 AM GMT+0800
Hackers, fringe nuts, anarchists?
That's not government by the people
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Gerry Patey
10:50 AM GMT+0800
Iceland does have a geographical location which can be helpful in future dividing up of Arctic resources.
So shut your hole running them down.
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Gussie Fink-Nottle
10:48 AM GMT+0800
"bankers went to jail"

Sweetest words of the day.
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golfish
10:50 AM GMT+0800
no sweetness here in the US... Bankers just got a do over.
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Gerry Patey
10:47 AM GMT+0800
I recall this on going story in 'theguardian.com'
One Pirate Party - who is going to vote for taxes?
Sorry, to trip you up.
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QSERTORIUS
10:46 AM GMT+0800
. . . with no army and an economy rooted in tourism and fishing.

This is not even a country, more like a city. Nothing that takes place there has any semblance of relation to the vast majority of the outside world where nations face real problems. What a joke.
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Carol_R
10:45 AM GMT+0800
Not surprised. Iceland is mainly a bunch of drunks. I believe that they have the highest rate of alcoholism in the world.
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Nov 8 Infestation Day
10:44 AM GMT+0800
Iceland is an actual "democracy! Go Pirates!
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Ddogmoney
10:30 AM GMT+0800
"paunchy men" - I thought we weren't supposed to body shame.
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Kristie Wang
10:43 AM GMT+0800 [Edited]
only women apparently
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Col. Klink
10:29 AM GMT+0800
This is the beauty of a small government. Much much closer to the people and much easier to change. Our states should be made smaller (e.g. California should be 3-4 states). But each state should be a nation state. Reinforce the initial intent of the Constitution and have a 'federal' government for defense and the other few enumerated powers only. Damn shame the states gave over their inherent power so long ago. With proper education, maybe we can get back to it.
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Fate1
10:31 AM GMT+0800
So many problems you ignore, like enforcing the US Constitution on all the states.
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Col. Klink
10:34 AM GMT+0800
I'm not ignoring anything. Only have so much space to write. But, if a state didn't want to partake, they wouldn't have to (as long as I'm fantasizing anyway....lol). They'd have to have their own defense for one thing....otherwise it would just be it's own country. Baby steps Fate....at least we're discussing!
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Kristie Wang
10:34 AM GMT+0800 [Edited]
maybe the US could become like the EU
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Col. Klink
10:36 AM GMT+0800
We already are like the EU. They have a centralized, far away government and so do we. I suggest NOT having that far away control. Just like GB chafed under their far away rule.
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Kristie Wang
10:42 AM GMT+0800
GB didn't have to fight a war with EU to secede

each state would be sovereign
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Middle of Road Guy
10:45 AM GMT+0800 [Edited]
That happened when they ditched the articles of confederation and adopted the constitution. This was settled over 200 years ago. If you wish our country to be broken up and the U.S.A. devolved into some sort of EU or less or and wish our country that much ill will I suggest you find a country more to your liking. I believe in our country what we have accomplished I am sad that you have such a negative view of the U.S.A.
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rusty3
10:20 AM GMT+0800
Who knew that Iceland would be the land of the free and the home of the brave?
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CopyKinetics
10:21 AM GMT+0800
Ice folk busting a move.
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Kristie Wang
10:22 AM GMT+0800
vikings?
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Fate1
10:28 AM GMT+0800
decendents of...
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CopyKinetics
10:19 AM GMT+0800 [Edited]
Give the pirates a shot and see what happens. Iceland is a good -- and safe -- place to have a lark. That is not the case in the U.S., where having an ignorant and deeply ridiculous celebrity like Trump take power would have seriously adverse and widespread consequences.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...bfe992-9540-11e6-9cae-2a3574e296a6_story.html

the link is via Drudge but I had to use a VPN to access it
 
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hope they win, this could set an example for the USA and UK. no more sites taken down by Hollywood stooges
 
First Iceland brought crooked bankers to justice and now it looks like they may be embracing liberty, if they can do it so can we.
 
*BUMP* - I would consider moving to Iceland if this takes root.

Two things.

Firstly, they will not let you in. Period. If you had billions... maybe. Short of that, you have better chances in Switzerland, and those aren't very good.

Secondly, Icelandic is one of the true fuckers of world languages to learn. Not as bad as Basque, which is considered to be impossible or an adult to learn fluently, but worse than Hungarian, which is pretty tough stuff.
 
One litmus test of this purported spike toward freedom will be their position on firearms. If they free up availability of all types of firearms, I will consider them to be the real deal. Short of that, it will be just another load of bunk where talk is big and action short.

Monetary policy would be another - I would start buying up PMs, perhaps go full-bitcoin... something rational. No central bank... not even sure if they have one now.

If they do such things, look out for cross-hairs to appear on them. OTOH, Iceland is smaller than my back field, so they may escape scrutiny awhile... long enough to arm themselves in various ways beyond just guns.
 
One litmus test of this purported spike toward freedom will be their position on firearms. If they free up availability of all types of firearms, I will consider them to be the real deal. Short of that, it will be just another load of bunk where talk is big and action short.

Monetary policy would be another - I would start buying up PMs, perhaps go full-bitcoin... something rational. No central bank... not even sure if they have one now.

If they do such things, look out for cross-hairs to appear on them. OTOH, Iceland is smaller than my back field, so they may escape scrutiny awhile... long enough to arm themselves in various ways beyond just guns.

Yes they have a central bank right now. They have their own currency, it gets issued by their central bank. There are still voices that want to adopt the Euro in Iceland but I guess it is unclear what the position of the pirate party is... Although, if decided by a democratic referendum, I guess the people of Iceland do not want the Euro or membership of EMU or EFTA.

As far as firearms go, yes, not an ideal libertarian position yet.. A lot of people own guns though and there is pretty much no gun violence over there. Lots of restrictions but I guess this is something more easily changed in a small country than a large one.

As far as the cross-hairs go, Iceland does not need to import vast amounts of energy to keep the country running.

Renewable sources—geothermal and hydropower—provide effectively all of Iceland's electricity[133] and around 85% of the nation's total primary energy consumption,[134] with most of the remainder consisting of imported oil products used in transportation and in the fishing fleet.[135][136] Iceland expects to be energy-independent by 2050.
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And what do they have for sale ? Stuff the whole world wants but hardly worth invading for.
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Also.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandskeið :p
 
Do they even support small government or is it just a matter of overlap on privacy positions while supporting the usual welfare state policy? Seems there is reason to be a bit skeptical but not trying to be a buzz kill and open to hearing more details.
 
Do they even support small government or is it just a matter of overlap on privacy positions while supporting the usual welfare state policy? Seems there is reason to be a bit skeptical but not trying to be a buzz kill and open to hearing more details.
Iceland has a flat tax system: the main personal income tax rate is a flat 22.75%, and combined with municipal taxes, the total tax rate equals no more than 35.7%, not including the many deductions that are available.[113] The corporate tax rate is a flat 18%, one of the lowest in the world.[113] There is also a value added tax, whereas a net wealth tax was eliminated in 2006. Employment regulations are relatively flexible and the labour market is one of the freest in the world. Property rights are strong and Iceland is one of the few countries where they are applied to fishery management.[113] Like other welfare states, taxpayers pay various subsidies to each other, but with spending being less than in most European countries.
(wiki)

Yes they have taxes. Ups and downs I guess but leaning towards libertarian views I'd say.
 
Yes they have a central bank right now.

Central bank is not in itself evil, but people in power tend to be, which is why CBs fail in practice.

Assuming their bank is honestly and capably managed under a proper architecture at this time, I would recommend to them they eliminate fiat monies and allow outside competition. This will tend to keep the CB honest and motivated to improve the architecture of their operations. If the people are free at any time to abandon the national money, there is little to no worry of hanky panky in the fundamentals of the national economy. I would adopt on-demand convertibility for citizens ONLY. Foreign nationals would not be able to do so. This is clearly anti-liberty, but it is an absolute necessity for the following reason. If we assume money backed with gold, just to keep it simple, stupid, were foreigners such as tourists to be allowed conversion, any other sufficiently endowed nation seeking to wreak havoc upon the Icelandic economy could simply send waves of "tourists" to that land and have them buy up all the backing stores, thereby gutting the national sink of value. That would be disastrous. Some may argue that the gold could be banned from exportation. That could still fail in practice because those so-called tourists could be given instructions to dispose of the gold by tossing it into the sea, down the geothermal vents that abound, and so forth. Liberty for Icelanders; screw the rest of you. A sad, but potentially necessary deviation from proper liberty in a world rotting in its own tyrannical filth.

In fact, I might have two national currencies, the first being the fully convertible, real asset-backed money, and a fiat currency for international settlements. This could position Iceland well for international trade without giving foreign nations access to the "gold" reserves, which would remain safely at home. Or perhaps simply accepting foreign currencies like the Euro to circulate freely would be the better solution, all international settlements to be conducted in those foreign currencies and similarly insulating reserves from plundering.

There are still voices that want to adopt the Euro in Iceland but I guess it is unclear what the position of the pirate party is... Although, if decided by a democratic referendum, I guess the people of Iceland do not want the Euro or membership of EMU or EFTA.

Kudos to the Icelandic people if they are that smart and resolved. But this underscores my concerns regarding those cross-hairs. I grant that Iceland is smaller than my master bathroom and of little to no global consequence, speaking generally. But in they eyes of these globalist tyrants Iceland may still pose a threat to Theire plans for central government. As the rest of the world descends into the New Dark Age (NDA) and the foist of the Khmer Rouge dream is globally perfected, even a single point-source of non-orthodox national operations would serve as a sore-thumb beacon to the billions whose lives have been reduced to such a bereft state. Assuming the internet survives in a form that still allows sufficiently free flow of information, I would think that such messages of prosperity in a land of less than 350K souls would tend to upset the global applecart. I cannot imagine Theye would tolerate such a thing, and thereby would Iceland and any place similar attract the attention of the large predators.

As far as firearms go, yes, not an ideal libertarian position yet..

And I repeat: this is an all-or-nothing litmus test. If this fails, Iceland fails as a free land regardless if every Icelander becomes a billionaire.

A lot of people own guns though and there is pretty much no gun violence over there. Lots of restrictions but I guess this is something more easily changed in a small country than a large one.

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/iceland


As far as the cross-hairs go, Iceland does not need to import vast amounts of energy to keep the country running.

But it needs trade, and that is a weakness. Any nation worth its guano for sense renders itself as fully self-sufficient as is materially possible. Global interdependence is globalist bait.
 
hope they win, this could set an example for the USA and UK. no more sites taken down by Hollywood stooges

Example? Hell. How about a place to move to?

*BUMP* - I would consider moving to Iceland if this takes root.

My thoughts exactly. I just wish Iceland wasn't so....well....icy. Weren't their pirates in the Caribbean?

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ed-for-power-as-icelanders-cast-their-ballots

Icelanders started voting in a snap election that polls show could propel the populist Pirate Party into a ruling coalition after the sitting conservative government became tainted by the Panama Papers scandal.

Braving rain, gusty winds and temperatures not far above freezing, Icelanders starting voting at 9 a.m. on Saturday across the north Atlantic island. Voting closes at 10 p.m. with final results not expected until late into the night.

The election is taking place against the backdrop of rising populism across the western world and what Allianz SE chief economic adviser Mohamed El-Erian called spreading disruptions from the “politics of anger."

Surveys published in the final days of the election campaign point to a defeat for the ruling conservative alliance and victory for opposition parties spearheaded by the Pirate Party and the Left-Green Movement.
 
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