Ibuprofen Kills Thousands Each Year, So What Is The Alternative?

[PaulConventionWV]

800 mg is the recommended ibuprofen dose. The increased risks in the study kicked in at 2400 mg a day every day for at least a year. 3200 mg is the maximum daily dose.

I don't get this mindset that you can become healthier by trying to teeter on the line between death and non-death by taking things that could easily kill you but are somehow of great benefit if you do not die while taking it. That's not healthy no matter how you look at it. You can say it's necessary to numb the pain, but if that's all we've got to make ourselves healthier, then we're fucked.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Of course. So in essence, you argument is that Merk faked data, falsified reports, and went public all so they could do the devious thing of voluntarily pulling the number one prescribed NSAID, when the FDA just wanted them to annotate the POSSIBLE risk with the drug.

Those devious bastards....

You have your links, but I have my wife, who is a healthcare provider, as well as my own experience. I'll take our combined experience, as well as her master's degree in medicine over some link that fabricates history on it's way to trying to talk abut pharmaceutical chemistry as a toddler might approach basic math.

Talk about naivete, you think the fact that they voluntarily covered their asses by pulling a terrible drug off the market means there was no need to falsify reports or fake data? Ha, I don't know about you, but if I were working for Merck, I would be pretty concerned about what those data said, whether or not I pulled the drug off the market. Does the fact that they didn't follow the FDA's suggestion mean a damn thing? In fact, your point just proves that the FDA is not entirely honest, so either way, I'll take the word of literally anything over establishment-approved propaganda.

 

[euphemia]

Article says risk is to people taking very high doses over long periods of time. Not average people.

It doesn't have to be very high doses, or all that long a time. NSAIDS are very hard on the digestive tract. They can lead to ulcers, colitis, and diverticulosis. Voice of experience, here.

I would not say it is never indicated, but it is not something that should be used for chronic pain.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

I have bad knees, a shoulder, and have major surgery on my back last October (had to remove a disc and part of a vertebrae). I tried to avoid the surgery, but that ended when my wife found me on the floor unable to walk and terrified. I was very depressed when they started talking about pain management clinics, as my metabolism inherited from the family makes me very resistant to booze, narcotics, hell....laughing gas has zero effect on me. In other words, the thought of having bottles of oxycontin, hydromorphone, fentnyl, ect part of my daily routine reinforced to me what I was already thinking, in that I was going to spend the rest of my life a cripple.

Granted, I have hydrocodone for bad days, but my doctor said I should give mobic / meloxicam a chance. It is a NSAID, labled under both COX-1 /COX-2. It's a 15mg pill a day, takes a few days before you start to notice anything, but they work. Well, for me at least. My wife has migraines as well, and she said, "Tell him if he doesn't have Relpax, to go tell his doc to get that script wrote ASAP." Her's are horrible, and she manages them very well with that med. Only once in a blue moon is it so bad for her that she goes into my mdicine cabinet, because Relpax failed her. And this, "Be sure he knows narcotics can cause more intense rebound pain with a migraine, and should be his last act for relief."

Sounds like a depressing, nightmarish vicious cycle of pain-->numbness-->pain-->numbness. I'm really sorry to hear you bought into that.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

They're referred to as "Vitamin-I" in this household.

Sad. Just sad.

 

[Zippyjuan]

I don't get this mindset that you can become healthier by trying to teeter on the line between death and non-death by taking things that could easily kill you but are somehow of great benefit if you do not die while taking it. That's not healthy no matter how you look at it. You can say it's necessary to numb the pain, but if that's all we've got to make ourselves healthier, then we're fucked.

Ibuprofen cannot "easily kill you". Salt can kill you if you consume too much. Water can too. Do you intend to avoid those as well?

 

[donnay]

Migraines Linked to Certain Heavy Metals and Mineral Deficiencies

By: Case Adams

Discovering the cause of a migraine can be tricky. Triggers are not only difficult to find but often lead nowhere. A new study finds that certain heavy metals are linked to migraines, along with deficiences in certain minerals.

For millions of people, migraines can not only be severe, but also mysterious.

When a person tries to connect their migraine with something they might eat or do, they are looking for something typically called a trigger. This is not necessarily the cause of the migraine, but it might be related to the migraine – especially if it repeats itself prior to every migraine.

Better than a trigger is a metabolic diagnostic indicator. This could be, for example, a fasting blood sugar level, a high CRP level during a time with repeated migraines or some other diagnostic measurement.

The reason why diagnostic indicators can be more important than triggers is because diagnostic indicators can also allow us to understand the metabolic cause – and a possible solution for the migraine. This contrasts with a trigger, where a potential solution may only relate to removing that particular trigger, but doesn't get to the root of the problem.

Removing one trigger may lead to continued migraines following other triggers. This can be a never-ending process. This leaves some people dealing with migraines for decades without a solution.

But discovering a diagnostic indicator will help us determine a larger-scale strategy to remove the migraine.
Testing migraineurs for heavy metals and minerals

New research from Turkey's Yuzuncu Yil University has utilized a diagnostic indicator to discover the potential link between heavy metals, minerals and migraines.

The diagnostic tool is quite simple: A blood analysis using atomic absorption spectrophotometry.

The researchers tested 50 people – 25 of whom had been diagnosed with migraines. The other 25 people were healthy control subjects. None of those tested were taking any antioxidant or multivitamin supplements. Also, none smoked, or had an alcoholic addiction, abused drugs, had liver or kidney disease, a heart condition or inflammatory condition.

Those who suffered from migraines were admitted to the hospital and received a diagnosis and treatment program consistent with the recommendations of the International Headache Society.

Read more: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/migraines-linked-certain-heavy-metals-and-mineral-deficiencies-1

 

[presence]

they wouldn't let them sell it at the store if it was bad for you

 

[oyarde]

Ibuprofen cannot "easily kill you". Salt can kill you if you consume too much. Water can too. Do you intend to avoid those as well?/QUOTE]

I do not use much salt but drink alot of water, beer and coffee.Overall I felt better when I smoked cigarettes , but can breathe better since I quit. I try and stick with Aspirin these days, and bourbon .

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Ibuprofen cannot "easily kill you". Salt can kill you if you consume too much. Water can too. Do you intend to avoid those as well?

I do not use much salt but drink alot of water, beer and coffee.Overall I felt better when I smoked cigarettes , but can breathe better since I quit. I try and stick with Aspirin these days, and bourbon .

I can't touch liquor when I have an impending migraine or it will bloom into fullness.

 

[euphemia]

they wouldn't let them sell it at the store if it was bad for you

A lot of things sold at the store are not good over a long period of time. Almost every OTC drug has the warning: If this symptom lasts more than 10 days, see your physician.

 

[Ender]

If I could afford to see a doctor I wouldn't be using IB for migraines. and yeah, they get really, really bad. like buried in my room completely debilitated, unable to move and vomiting. when they get really REALLY bad I'll take 1400mg IB, which sucks, because it causes internal bleeding.

Best thing I have found for migraines is caffeine.

 

[Zippyjuan]

That will kill you in the long run too.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Migraines Linked to Certain Heavy Metals

 

[Ender]

That will kill you in the long run too.

ANYTHING in excess can kill you.

http://www.caffeineinformer.com/top-10-caffeine-health-benefits

 

[donnay]

Heavy metal always gives me a headache.