IA-At migrant invader caucus table, over 88% of non English speakers pick Bernie

[oyarde]

Drinking Old Crow with [MENTION=6186]Danke[/MENTION], no doubt.

Good enough for Mark Twain , too good for Danke .

 

[nobody's_hero]

I appreciate you saying this. Hatred and resentment only creates more of the same. Love and understanding can change minds. It sure has in my life.

And you are goddamn right we aren’t smiling enough. You are not going to do $#@! but fuss about the inevitable demographic changes, but you CAN accept others and help bring them to the light of liberty that we all love so much. Most of these people have fled horrible situations and are primed for the way.

Is a an authoritarian warrior police state significantly better than the commies, other than how much fake liberty and cash you have in your pocket? Maybe. Probably, but from the outside they look very similar. Both have killed and oppressed millions. In fact, from a lot of these immigrant’s perspectives the status quo has taken the lead in the past 20 years via our freedom wars. Maybe they want to slay the beast and see communism as a way to destroy capital that very likely will be used for war and oppression in their home countries? These immigrants aren’t as stupid as some choose to believe.

I am bored and apathetic to the negativity and division. I will not participate any longer.

It would seem that for every one you 'love and educate', 20 more take their place. The elites laugh at your efforts. There's a limitless supply of people around the world to take their place. Jefferson knew this over 200 years ago. People go with what they know. They will bring with them the principles of the governments they leave. This happens on a domestic basis as well. In just a decade New Hampshire has been ruined by uber liberals moving in mass from Mass. Texas seems to be a regrouping point for ex-Californians. If Sherman came through Georgia today most folks here would help him burn Atlanta.

Hate doesn't factor into it. —Well, maybe in the sense that I hate the people who exploit these people. But I don't really see any feasible alternative other than to turn off the spigot. Unless you all believe that it really is inevitable, in which case we might as well wipe down the bar and turn the lights off here at RPF.

 

[Zippyjuan]

In the 2020 election, about one-in-ten voters will have been born outside the U.S.

It must be the ten percent who are responsible for all of our problems- not the 90%.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/40230326?seq=1

We find that naturalized citizens are less likely to register and to vote than native-born citizens, net of other factors. Citizens born abroad in Europe, Latin America, and Asia are less likely to register and those born abroad in Europe and Asia are less likely to vote than those born in the U.S. Among naturalized citizens, region of origin does not remain a major explanatory variable once time in the U.S. is considered.

 

[oyarde]

It must be the ten percent who are responsible for all of our problems- not the 90%.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/40230326?seq=1

I agree , all the ordinary iowa democrats are bad all by themselves .

 

[timosman]

..

I went to the Iowa caucus because I'd never been before. Growing up there, most people I knew had never attended. And, having long since joined the ranks of people outside the state who peer in at this process, I was curious. On a national level, Iowa is used to being ignored. Then every four years, there's a torrent of purple prose about rusting farm equipment and condescending "man on the street" interviews. Understandably, Iowans get defensive about being portrayed this way, and some are quick to point out how seriously they take their democratic obligation—even if only a tiny fraction of people in the state get involved. (Everyone else is just trying to get some ranch.)

At a precinct location near my parents' house, I was given a big red sticker that said OBSERVER. Here's what I observed: About 180 people—most, but not all, white—milled around an elementary school gym. There was no on-site childcare, no snacks (thank goddess I had a belly full of taco pizza). Low bleachers were set up in front of campaign signs for each candidate, with the notable exception of Tom Steyer, whose branding had been all over Iowa's YouTube videos and billboards for weeks. A local Democratic party official explained that 9 delegates would be awarded based on this group's decisions. There were several minute-long statements about each candidate, including a comparison of Pete Buttigieg to JFK and RFK and Amy Klobuchar to a reliable sailboat. Then, two rounds of voting by holding cards in the air and counting the hands in each corner. And finally, delegate math: Two each for Buttigieg, Sanders, and Warren; one each for Biden and Klobuchar. And then a coin toss—yes, a COIN TOSS—to award the final delegate to either Biden or Klobuchar. It went to Biden.

As I watched from a metal folding chair in the corner, my gut-level reaction was that this whole thing is just wrong. Wildly undemocratic. The electoral college in microcosm. But I'm also sympathetic to some Iowans' desire to hang on to this flawed process that, with each passing election, becomes less representative of the national population. I want there to be a genuine and ongoing national interest in how all parts of this country are faring. And that's actually the same reason this caucus process is indefensible: It's trying to account for a real problem of representation by creating another one.

 

[Zippyjuan]

https://www.cato.org/blog/immigrants-dont-make-california-blue

Immigrants Don’t Make California Blue

California is not blue because of immigrants. In the 2016 election, for example, naturalized citizens cast 18.1 percent of the vote, according to the Voting and Registration Supplement to the Census’s Current Population Survey (CPS). The CPS doesn’t ask how they cast their votes, but even if every single naturalized citizen voter cast their ballot for Hillary Clinton, Trump still would have received 38 percent fewer votes in the state than Clinton if Brakey’s disenfranchisement plan went through.

Blaming foreigners made things worse for Republican in California.

But just because immigrants don’t make California blue doesn’t mean that immigration politics didn’t play a role. California Republicans went from competitive statewide to big losers at exactly the time that Governor Pete Wilson decided to blame immigrants for the state’s budget problems and campaigned for Proposition 187 in 1994, which would have required state officers to report illegal immigrants to the federal government as well as ban public services to them. Wilson did win reelection in 1994 during a record year for Republicans nationwide, but the California GOP never recovered.

My colleague Alex Nowrasteh has documented the now‐​extensive evidence that Wilson’s nativist campaign turned off Hispanic voters. This includes not just naturalized but also 2nd, 3rd, and 4th generation Hispanics. Wilson received nearly half of the Hispanic vote in 1990, but only a quarter in the 1994 election, and the GOP share remained low thereafter. But it was not just Hispanic voters who stopped voting GOP. Non‐​Hispanic whites also turned against Republicans at the same time, leading to a near total collapse in the state GOP.

 

[tod evans]

A large contingency of Bhutanese Americans

WTF is a "Bhutanese"?

Google says more dot-heads.........Why is there a large contingency in Cedar Rapids? Which branch of "our government" brought this large contingency across the ocean and deposited them in Ia.? Were they issued 7-11's and Motel 6's or section 8? Don't try to tell me there's some business in Cedar Rapids that recruited a large contingency of Bhutanese migrants.

Quite simply there is no need for migrant 'workers' until there are no more welfare checks being written.

 

[Zippyjuan]

WTF is a "Bhutanese"?

Google says more dot-heads.........Why is there a large contingency in Cedar Rapids? Which branch of "our government" brought this large contingency across the ocean and deposited them in Ia.? Were they issued 7-11's and Motel 6's or section 8? Don't try to tell me there's some business in Cedar Rapids that recruited a large contingency of Bhutanese migrants.

Quite simply there is no need for migrant 'workers' until there are no more welfare checks being written.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...n-services-iowa-lsi-tika-bhandari/1304915002/

Tika Bhandari was 9 years old when her native country kicked her, her family and 107,000 others like her out for being different.

Tika and her family are natives of Bhutan, a south Asian country roughly the size of Maryland with a population of about 800,000 wedged between two of India’s northernmost states and south of Tibet.

Tika’s family are Lhotshampas, people mainly from the south of Bhutan who trace their family histories to Nepal, another tiny south Asian nation west of Bhutan. The Lhotshampas speak Nepali and follow ancestral customs.

In the 1990s, the ruling class of Bhutan decided on a “one government, one people” policy and expelled most Lhotshampas — a fifth of Bhutan’s population at the time.

Families such as Tika’s ended up in refugee camps on the eastern edge of Nepal. Conditions in the refugee camps were abysmal. There was not enough food, clothing or proper living quarters. They lived fenced-in, like prisoners, Tika recalled.

The United Nations came and offered Tika’s family the chance to resettle in the United States, specifically Des Moines. They had no idea where Des Moines was, but it was a chance for a new life. So to Iowa they came in 2007.

Tika and her family eventually worked with Lutheran Services in Iowa, or LSI, a non-governmental social service agency that helps refugees resettle.

Her father, Narad Bastola, who plowed fields with oxen and hand tools, learned to farm with modern tools in community gardens before he died of cancer in 2016.

Tika, now 38, eventually found work with LSI, helping teach English to newcomers, among other duties. She and her husband are now U.S. citizens.

Tika’s parents had no formal education — they had always been farmers. But her father connected with Global Greens, an LSI program that puts refugee farmers back in the fields, teaches them modern farming techniques and sells their wares at Des Moines' Downtown Farmers' Market, and through other avenues.

 

[Sammy]

https://www.cato.org/blog/immigrants-dont-make-california-blue



Blaming foreigners made things worse for Republican in California.

CATO makes propaganda for mass immigration.
Hispanic's vote Democratic since the 60s.
https://books.google.at/books?id=n-...CAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=hispanic vote 1960&f=false

 

[oyarde]

WTF is a "Bhutanese"?

Google says more dot-heads.........Why is there a large contingency in Cedar Rapids? Which branch of "our government" brought this large contingency across the ocean and deposited them in Ia.? Were they issued 7-11's and Motel 6's or section 8? Don't try to tell me there's some business in Cedar Rapids that recruited a large contingency of Bhutanese migrants.

Quite simply there is no need for migrant 'workers' until there are no more welfare checks being written.

That is where they get the munchkins for wizard of oz .

 

[tod evans]

Feelings article

Where in that article does it say that these po/po refugees are self sustaining?

I don't feel sorry for them, I don't feel sorry for the USA born leeches either. Let the Lutheran ministry that brought them over here house,feed and cloth them until they can support themselves, I guarantee that's not happening right now.

I've got a dime to a dollar these fine folks were brought in by the ECLA Lutheran church, the Democratic, all inclusive branch..The LCMS tends to work more locally and with church money instead of public coffers.

Best to specify rather than blaming the Lutheran church at large for importing tax burdens.


[edit]

Just googled the offending group and sure-nuff they're of the progressive ilk.....(Read using government monies for social programs)

 

[Zippyjuan]

CATO makes propaganda for mass immigration.
Hispanic's vote Democratic since the 60s.
https://books.google.at/books?id=n-...CAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=hispanic vote 1960&f=false

Republicans prefer to attack them rather than try to recruit them- no wonder they prefer Democrats.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Tika and her family eventually worked with Lutheran Services in Iowa, or LSI, a non-governmental social service agency that helps refugees resettle.

BULLSHIT!!!

As recently as 2016 Lutheran Services received over 62 MILLION of my money, used to displace me and my family, over 90 percent of it's operating budget, FROM THE FEDGOV.

Stop fucking gaslighting people.




Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Services (LIRS)
Form 990, 2016

Contributions and Grants: $67,228,228

Government grants (contributions): $64,666,482 (96.2 percent)



Compensation: Linda Hartke, ex officio director, president, and CEO.

Reportable Compensation from the organization: $293,066

Estimated amount of other compensation from the organization and related organizations: $34,810

Total: $327,876

Note: the current interim president and CEO is Pat Nichols. Reports of financial mismanagement, fraud, and harassment led to the departure of Linda Hartke and calls for an external investigation.



From their website:

For the year ended December 31, 2016:

Total Support and Revenue: $ 69,421,000

U.S. Government and State: $64,666,000 (93.2 percent)

 

[tod evans]

Republicans prefer to attack them rather than try to recruit them- no wonder they prefer Democrats.

How does one "recruit" a leech?

There is no better host than an American Democrat who controls the purse strings.

Market gardening in section 8 housing is obviously much better than where they came from but that's no justification as to why I must contribute to their largess.

Be friendly to the next tick that buries it's head in your nutsack.......I'm more prone to ripping 'em out and crushing the little bastards between my thumbnails.

 

[Slave Mentality]

It would seem that for every one you 'love and educate', 20 more take their place. The elites laugh at your efforts. There's a limitless supply of people around the world to take their place. Jefferson knew this over 200 years ago. People go with what they know. They will bring with them the principles of the governments they leave. This happens on a domestic basis as well. In just a decade New Hampshire has been ruined by uber liberals moving in mass from Mass. Texas seems to be a regrouping point for ex-Californians. If Sherman came through Georgia today most folks here would help him burn Atlanta.

Hate doesn't factor into it. —Well, maybe in the sense that I hate the people who exploit these people. But I don't really see any feasible alternative other than to turn off the spigot. Unless you all believe that it really is inevitable, in which case we might as well wipe down the bar and turn the lights off here at RPF.

You are correct on all counts.

I have lived in the south pretty much my whole life and have seen the damage internal migration has done from the yankee states. Unfortunately, I believe it was too late a long time ago with regards to us marching towards a European style socialism. That’s what our betters want. The only power I see against this is by living a peaceful and accepting life full of personal responsibility that invites others to ask how. I can’t convince anyone that personal liberty is worth fighting for if I am fighting with them.

I have a story about converting a 40 something immigrant Chinese woman into a Ron Paul YouTube speech watching liberty psycho. She subscibes to the Liberty Report for chrissakes. I think it would change a couple of minds about our fellow humans, no matter what brand of brainwashing they grew up with.

I truly appreciate your input!

 

[Anti Federalist]

Republicans prefer to attack them rather than try to recruit them- no wonder they prefer Democrats.

It's as pointless as trying to recruit you.

You're, I'm assuming, a citizen.

I can't throw you out. (can I?)

I sure as hell can throw a motley mob of third world communists voting for a guy who's planning on throwing ME in jail for doing my job and keeping his fucking house warm, the fuck out of my country.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Blaming foreigners made things worse for Republican in California.

More STATO horseshit.

Arnold Schwarzenegger won AFTER Pete Wilson.

He won on RESTRICTING illegals. Course he squished and back pedaled later, but that goes with the territory. THAT's what paved for Gov. Moonbeam and now Gov. Noisome.

Immigrants voting as a solid blue bloc have been proved to be the reason over and over and over again for states going Uni-Party communist.

Strongest issue was promise to undo licenses to illegals
In the 2003 victory of Arnold Schwarzenegger [his] strongest issue was Davis's decision to grant driver's licenses to illegals. Arnold promised to undo it and swept to victory. Every GOP candidate who has run away from the issue of illegal immigration in California has been wiped out. The reasons are twofold: illegal immigration is always the hottest issue in the race and, like opposition to quotas and bilingual education, one of several on which Republicans can win Democratic votes.
Source: State of Emergency, by Pat Buchanan, p. 64 , Oct 2, 2007

 

[Zippyjuan]

More STATO horse$#@!.

Arnold Schwarzenegger won AFTER Pete Wilson.

He won on RESTRICTING illegals. Course he squished and back pedaled later, but that goes with the territory. THAT's what paved for Gov. Moonbeam and now Gov. Noisome.

Immigrants voting as a solid blue bloc have been proved to be the reason over and over and over again for states going Uni-Party communist.

Strongest issue was promise to undo licenses to illegals
In the 2003 victory of Arnold Schwarzenegger [his] strongest issue was Davis's decision to grant driver's licenses to illegals. Arnold promised to undo it and swept to victory. Every GOP candidate who has run away from the issue of illegal immigration in California has been wiped out. The reasons are twofold: illegal immigration is always the hottest issue in the race and, like opposition to quotas and bilingual education, one of several on which Republicans can win Democratic votes.
Source: State of Emergency, by Pat Buchanan, p. 64 , Oct 2, 2007

Ahnold was a immigrant, well known actor, and married to one of the Kennedy clan which helped his liberal credentials. Supported gay rights but not gay marriage. Pro- environment, green energy. Favored gun control including the Brady Bill.

https://www.ontheissues.org/Arnold_Schwarzenegger.htm

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Why are both Sanders and Trump so acceptable for Sanders supporters?
Because of their DACA stances (Trump & Democrats Near Agreement on DACA), universal healthcare or something else driving this?
Doubt Sarah Sanders had anything to do with this.

Sanders supporters vow to support Trump if Bernie isn’t the nominee

 

[Anti Federalist]

Ahnold was a immigrant, well known actor, and married to one of the Kennedy clan which helped his liberal credentials. Supported gay rights but not gay marriage. Pro- environment, green energy. Favored gun control including the Brady Bill.

https://www.ontheissues.org/Arnold_Schwarzenegger.htm

Course he squished and back pedaled later, but that goes with the territory

And...?

The trajectory as the migrant invasion continues is clear.

Governors went from conservative to squishy moderate, to Moonbean liberal, to Bolshie commies.

That's, ummm, kind of my point.