DjLoTi
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I'm gonna take this time to tell you, the 'grassroots', something you probably don't wanna hear. ' I told you so '
I'm sorry, but with not even 10%, it's a F for the campaign.
I posted here a few days ago recomending a grassroots advisory board or w/e because the campaign was doing such a bad job. Someone literally said ' I don't care what RP does with my money '.
You guys should be asking from the campaign why this happened. The first person you should ask is Joe Seehusen. In August, he was the Iowa state coordinator. Now he's the deputy campaign manager. With positions like that, you think he'd be crazy shit-hot. Where is he at? If he's the expert on Iowa, I want to hear his explanation, personally.
Or you could ask Bill Dumas and Jesse Benton why some of the excellent commercials on YouTube are not playing in Iowa, even though they've had way more money way longer then Mike Huckabee, who's been playing ads for at least a month.
I wouldn't ask Drew Ivers anything, it's really not his fault. They only have *one* major person on the crew in Iowa? They have 20 Million dollars!
Of course the truth is, the real problem lies in the campaign. Why are the same names recycled as the campaign grows? Why are there no major players added to the campaign when the RP campaign is obviously sellable.
Do you know what the remnant is? Ron Paul has mentioned it in a few of his speeches. They probably depended on the remnant to come out and vote. This is the HQ pipe dream.
I hear so much ' The reason the grassroots is so successful is because the campaign doesn't try to coordinate them '.
Please. That wasn't their secret to success, just as they say they have none. And it also didn't aid in it's success.
Face it. The campaign did nothing. They raised all this money and now they're sitting on it. The grassroots did with 1 million more then the campaign has done with 10.
Ron Paul always says ' I don't want the government running the economy, the people do much better '. I've come to the conclusion that the people also ran a better campaign. I don't even know what campaign they're running. They're so unconfident I honestly think RP has said he didn't think he could win more then the media. But, I listen to RP more then the media.
Did things change with the huge money bombs? Yeah, they did. Did the campaign change with the money bombs? No. They just asked for more money. And you gave it to them, without even seeing results.
Granted it was all in good fun, but who's less then 10% now? You guys act like he's going to just walk into NH and sweep a 1st place victory. Over 90,000 people didn't vote for Ron Paul, vs. about 10,000, with 86% of the tallies in.
They said the republican party saw a registration increase of 6%. Lets be generous and say half of that was for Ron Paul. That's, in Iowa, only 3,000 people, not even enough to bump Ron Paul up a place.
Now I'm seeing a thread that says we didn't target Obama supporters enough. I've been saying he's the real threat for weeks.
Anyway, lets say Thompson moves out and endorses McCain. Now Ron Paul has to beat the big 3. Not easy. And with Ron Paul placing a 9% 5th, there's plenty of fuel to go around saying he's not electable.
One thing's for sure. It's not your fault. It's not the grassroots fault. It's the campaigns fault. They're unorganized, unexperienced, and they are most certainly unfriendly. They laughed off the idea of going on Glen Beck's show, and eventually he gave a personal message to us, the internet, the grassroots, that he'd have Ron Paul on for an hour. Finally, their snobby campaign caved in.
What experience does the high-level Ron Paul staff having in running a republican presidential primary run?
You can ask them that. Good luck getting answers, though. They probably won't treat you any better then Glen Beck or Bill O'rilley. And Glen Beck did mess up by *having a guest* who called us terrorists (sort of), but BillO did nothing.
So when people are telling me off and telling me to go to hell for trying to push for a grassroots advisory board because I don't 'advise' them while they hold their signs, keep shining in your own glory. I've probably had a net conversion of over 1,000 people, maybe more. I've been here since the beginning, working hard and standing up to you ignorant, hateful and brash ' supporters '. That doesn't go out to all of you. That's just, in general, what I observe. It doesn't and never supprised me though. Americans are always more (insert negative word) in general then other people. That's why I don't even like it here. That's why Ron Paul was part of my hope. But over 90,000 people voted for someone else.
And by the reactions by my post a few days ago, that other 10% certainly isn't untouched either.
And yeah, the RP campaign not doing their part I take personally, personally.
So that's all I got to say, and I have to say it, otherwise I won't stop thinking it. Thanks.
I'm sorry, but with not even 10%, it's a F for the campaign.
I posted here a few days ago recomending a grassroots advisory board or w/e because the campaign was doing such a bad job. Someone literally said ' I don't care what RP does with my money '.
You guys should be asking from the campaign why this happened. The first person you should ask is Joe Seehusen. In August, he was the Iowa state coordinator. Now he's the deputy campaign manager. With positions like that, you think he'd be crazy shit-hot. Where is he at? If he's the expert on Iowa, I want to hear his explanation, personally.
Or you could ask Bill Dumas and Jesse Benton why some of the excellent commercials on YouTube are not playing in Iowa, even though they've had way more money way longer then Mike Huckabee, who's been playing ads for at least a month.
I wouldn't ask Drew Ivers anything, it's really not his fault. They only have *one* major person on the crew in Iowa? They have 20 Million dollars!
Of course the truth is, the real problem lies in the campaign. Why are the same names recycled as the campaign grows? Why are there no major players added to the campaign when the RP campaign is obviously sellable.
Do you know what the remnant is? Ron Paul has mentioned it in a few of his speeches. They probably depended on the remnant to come out and vote. This is the HQ pipe dream.
I hear so much ' The reason the grassroots is so successful is because the campaign doesn't try to coordinate them '.
Please. That wasn't their secret to success, just as they say they have none. And it also didn't aid in it's success.
Face it. The campaign did nothing. They raised all this money and now they're sitting on it. The grassroots did with 1 million more then the campaign has done with 10.
Ron Paul always says ' I don't want the government running the economy, the people do much better '. I've come to the conclusion that the people also ran a better campaign. I don't even know what campaign they're running. They're so unconfident I honestly think RP has said he didn't think he could win more then the media. But, I listen to RP more then the media.
Did things change with the huge money bombs? Yeah, they did. Did the campaign change with the money bombs? No. They just asked for more money. And you gave it to them, without even seeing results.
Granted it was all in good fun, but who's less then 10% now? You guys act like he's going to just walk into NH and sweep a 1st place victory. Over 90,000 people didn't vote for Ron Paul, vs. about 10,000, with 86% of the tallies in.
They said the republican party saw a registration increase of 6%. Lets be generous and say half of that was for Ron Paul. That's, in Iowa, only 3,000 people, not even enough to bump Ron Paul up a place.
Now I'm seeing a thread that says we didn't target Obama supporters enough. I've been saying he's the real threat for weeks.
Anyway, lets say Thompson moves out and endorses McCain. Now Ron Paul has to beat the big 3. Not easy. And with Ron Paul placing a 9% 5th, there's plenty of fuel to go around saying he's not electable.
One thing's for sure. It's not your fault. It's not the grassroots fault. It's the campaigns fault. They're unorganized, unexperienced, and they are most certainly unfriendly. They laughed off the idea of going on Glen Beck's show, and eventually he gave a personal message to us, the internet, the grassroots, that he'd have Ron Paul on for an hour. Finally, their snobby campaign caved in.
What experience does the high-level Ron Paul staff having in running a republican presidential primary run?
You can ask them that. Good luck getting answers, though. They probably won't treat you any better then Glen Beck or Bill O'rilley. And Glen Beck did mess up by *having a guest* who called us terrorists (sort of), but BillO did nothing.
So when people are telling me off and telling me to go to hell for trying to push for a grassroots advisory board because I don't 'advise' them while they hold their signs, keep shining in your own glory. I've probably had a net conversion of over 1,000 people, maybe more. I've been here since the beginning, working hard and standing up to you ignorant, hateful and brash ' supporters '. That doesn't go out to all of you. That's just, in general, what I observe. It doesn't and never supprised me though. Americans are always more (insert negative word) in general then other people. That's why I don't even like it here. That's why Ron Paul was part of my hope. But over 90,000 people voted for someone else.
And by the reactions by my post a few days ago, that other 10% certainly isn't untouched either.
And yeah, the RP campaign not doing their part I take personally, personally.
So that's all I got to say, and I have to say it, otherwise I won't stop thinking it. Thanks.
