I think more people are starting to get it

treyfu

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It seems more people on this forum and in other places are starting to become aware of the immorality of the very existence of government. They are realizing that theft is theft and murder is murder, and that a group of guys with guns who claim the legal right to commit these acts does not change the moral and empirical fact that these acts are simply wrong (and can be logically proven to be wrong). They are starting to understand that the use of violence and coercive force in an attempt to solve social problems is morally wrong, and since the government can only exist by the use of violence and coercive force, its very existence is inherently immoral. Does it not make sense to completely extricate a cancer from the body, rather than constantly struggle to merely limit its size and harmful effects?
 
It always amazes me how brainwashed people are. When you mention how evil and wrong big government can be most of the un-informed shoot back with "it's better than corporations running the world"! They don't realize, it's the same thing.
 
The human immune system is geared to keep cancer in check. Only when that system is interfered with or overloaded with destructive behavior by the bodies owner does cancer grow.

We have for so long been told that the cancer of government is good and not harmful, the opposite is true, and we are starting to get it.

The immune system learns as well, with every encounter with a virus and invading bacteria it remembers how to fight it. A virus takes over a cell and uses it to hide amongst the other healthy cells. It deceives and converts other cells to its cause...

There are many similarities.
 
It seems more people on this forum and in other places are starting to become aware of the immorality of the very existence of government. They are realizing that theft is theft and murder is murder, and that a group of guys with guns who claim the legal right to commit these acts does not change the moral and empirical fact that these acts are simply wrong (and can be logically proven to be wrong). They are starting to understand that the use of violence and coercive force in an attempt to solve social problems is morally wrong, and since the government can only exist by the use of violence and coercive force, its very existence is inherently immoral. Does it not make sense to completely extricate a cancer from the body, rather than constantly struggle to merely limit its size and harmful effects?

you gotta lay off the drugs. people are not becoming anarchists, and a plurality of this country will in fact never be anarchist.
 
It seems more people on this forum and in other places are starting to become aware of the immorality of the very existence of government. They are realizing that theft is theft and murder is murder, and that a group of guys with guns who claim the legal right to commit these acts does not change the moral and empirical fact that these acts are simply wrong (and can be logically proven to be wrong). They are starting to understand that the use of violence and coercive force in an attempt to solve social problems is morally wrong, and since the government can only exist by the use of violence and coercive force, its very existence is inherently immoral. Does it not make sense to completely extricate a cancer from the body, rather than constantly struggle to merely limit its size and harmful effects?

When I see a lot of people start talking about the income tax without basing it on the 16th amendment I might start to agree.
 
Once the endorsement of a monopoly agency of security and defense is agreed to, you inevitably end up where we are today - a tumor called good government.

One might be able to get back to the constitution , but you will never stay there as long as the human condition lends itself to control.
 
It seems more people on this forum and in other places are starting to become aware of the immorality of the very existence of government. They are realizing that theft is theft and murder is murder, and that a group of guys with guns who claim the legal right to commit these acts does not change the moral and empirical fact that these acts are simply wrong (and can be logically proven to be wrong). They are starting to understand that the use of violence and coercive force in an attempt to solve social problems is morally wrong, and since the government can only exist by the use of violence and coercive force, its very existence is inherently immoral. Does it not make sense to completely extricate a cancer from the body, rather than constantly struggle to merely limit its size and harmful effects?

This is not Ron Paul's position and it belongs in philosophy.
 
... Does it not make sense to completely extricate a cancer from the body, rather than constantly struggle to merely limit its size and harmful effects?
No. The one is politically impossible in my lifetime or your lifetime. The other is merely politically difficult .
 
Once you truly understand the complete application of the non-aggression principle, it becomes very easy to see voluntaryism as the only viable solution.
 
This is not Ron Paul's position and it belongs in philosophy.

Ron specifically mentioned in an interview that his true goals are more in-line with a truly "libertarian society", which is a kind way of saying an anarchic society....so I kinda doubt the accuracy of your statement =3
 
you gotta lay off the drugs. people are not becoming anarchists, and a plurality of this country will in fact never be anarchist.

A plurality of this country will never be any kind of "archist", because a plurality of this country doesn't know what it believes, or why. As odd as this might sound to many of us, most people mill about in their daily lives with nary a thought of political philosophy or of other high ideas rattling around in their heads.

But since when has a wide-ranging consensus, or indeed even a solid majority been necessary for a libertarian revolution? Don't forget, the Founding Fathers and other philosophical forerunners at the vanguard of the American Revolution constituted an infinitesimally small minority of the population at the time.

"It does not take a majority to prevail … but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." ---Samuel Adams
 
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It always amazes me how brainwashed people are. When you mention how evil and wrong big government can be most of the un-informed shoot back with "it's better than corporations running the world"! They don't realize, it's the same thing.

my response:

"Who the hell do you think runs the government? Instead of opposing corporatist slavery, you have now given them a gun and a license to imprison and kill. Far from opposing their thievery and murder, by supporting big intrusive government you've legalized it!"
 
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