I still see NO reasons why a DC March is the right thing to do

[AJ Antimony]

St. Paul is the National Republican caucus location correct?

That would be a great location too, I would be willing to go to both events if possible. Either one would have an impact.

I agree thinking about decisions before fully committing is a good idea. I like the idea of the March on DC, it was the only big significant thing I saw planned that I could actually attend. I think it won't get the exposure we'd all like it too nor the St. Paul area. But we would still get attention. People in congress would understand that Paul has weight to his message and it might give him and his ideas more respect in congress and hopefully a philosophical change in the government as we are all pressing for.

I think we should all have huge e-mailings and posting bombs anywhere and everywhere we individual can think of including news papers, news channels, representatives, right before we go that way everyone is watching and curious what the Ron Paul revolution will do next. We already are known as a huge following of loyal supporters. We are a force and the media has admitted to it. I think this mass e-mailing and writing could only add that much more of an impact.

That's the thing about marching in St. Paul -- people WILL be watching no matter what. A DC march in the summer won't even get Congress's attention because they all will be on vacation.

 

[Steve_New_Jersey]

Throughout all these threads and posts about a March on DC, I haven't seen ANY that explain why a DC March is the best thing to do.

In other words, what assures you that a march on Washington is the best way to use our money, time, and resources?

According to Devvy Kid, marching in Washington is a waste of time. She provides many logical reasons as well as first hand experience to explain why this is so.

She instead proposes to march in St. Paul at the Republican Convention, where the media will be there guaranteed. Again she supports this with logic, noting that travel to St. Paul would be cheaper than travel to DC.

I've posted this before and I'm doing so again: Why is a DC march more efficient than a St. Paul march?

People are starting to wake up. They need to know they can gather together, united in the name of freedom. If you think St. Paul wont be booked solid and just as costly you are mistaken. A march on the capital sends a message. A march on St. Paul of this magnitude says "Washington State" all over again.

 

[american.swan]

Throughout all these threads and posts about a March on DC, I haven't seen ANY that explain why a DC March is the best thing to do.

In other words, what assures you that a march on Washington is the best way to use our money, time, and resources?

According to Devvy Kid, marching in Washington is a waste of time. She provides many logical reasons as well as first hand experience to explain why this is so.

She instead proposes to march in St. Paul at the Republican Convention, where the media will be there guaranteed. Again she supports this with logic, noting that travel to St. Paul would be cheaper than travel to DC.

I've posted this before and I'm doing so again: Why is a DC march more efficient than a St. Paul march?

I think marching is useless unless you all are practicing marching to the front lines packing heat and plan to pull the trigger at the end of the road.

The media won't cover it, and the cost and logistics is a waste of time.

My feeling is unless you have the forces to "take over DC" with armed combat your wasting you time.

 

[Deborah K]

I appreciate your response but it still does not answer why marching in DC is better than marching in St. Paul.

Revolution Management Foundation, the ones organizing the march on Washington are looking into permits for St. Paul as well. The more marches and demonstrations we have, the better. They accommodate everyone's finances and schedules and they let the local, state, and federal governments know that we're NOT going away!

 

[AJ Antimony]

People are starting to wake up. They need to know they can gather together, united in the name of freedom. If you think St. Paul wont be booked solid and just as costly you are mistaken. A march on the capital sends a message. A march on St. Paul of this magnitude says "Washington State" all over again.

Kid suggests in her article that a march on DC will NOT send a message. Groups always gather for demonstrations in DC and get no attention. This one will be no different.

The only way a Ron Paul march would be a success in DC is if MANY people show up, as in the hundreds of thousands.

Unfortunately, attendance is the most uncertain element in all of this. The worst thing that this event could do is spend months and months planning, advertising, and preparing for this event just to have a couple thousand people show up. Of course a couple thousand is respectable, but in terms of expectations it would be an utter disaster. At least in St. Paul all of Paul's delegates will be there along with the media.

 

[pcosmar]

Kid suggests in her article that a march on DC will NOT send a message.

An Opinion
Everybody's got one.

 

[RWBlue-Travis]

Kid suggests in her article that a march on DC will NOT send a message. Groups always gather for demonstrations in DC and get no attention. This one will be no different.

The only way a Ron Paul march would be a success in DC is if MANY people show up, as in the hundreds of thousands.

Unfortunately, attendance is the most uncertain element in all of this. The worst thing that this event could do is spend months and months planning, advertising, and preparing for this event just to have a couple thousand people show up. Of course a couple thousand is respectable, but in terms of expectations it would be an utter disaster. At least in St. Paul all of Paul's delegates will be there along with the media.

AJ

You don't have to come to DC, but DC is going to happen anyway.

I could however use your help, I'll be in your debt. That help is to help promote DC first, instead of discouraging it, use it as a promotion to Rally more support for St. Paul later.

Remember, YOU don't have to attend both.

Help it happen, because the DC Rally is at your mercy.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

If the grassroots can pull off three moderately successful (as in hitting solid doubles, not home runs) with the April 15, June 21 and Labor Day rallies, that should be enough. It would demonstrate that the movement is well- and self-organized, consistent and here to stay, versus doing a huge one-off that the mdeia could deliberately non-report/disregard. It'll be pretty hard to ignore three major marches in under six months, 2 of the 3 with maybe 100,000+ turnouts.

Come to think of it, what if there was a even a FOURTH march scheduled for the week end before the election, to support the Paul candidates nationwide? What a remarkable signal of cohesion within the revolution that would send. Think of the projected marches as a life preserver to sustain the momentum of the movement throughout 2008, and not towards a single monster 'last stand' that might get lost in the summer shuffle.

 

[AJ Antimony]

AJ

You don't have to come to DC, but DC is going to happen anyway.

I could however use your help, I'll be in your debt. That help is to help promote DC first, instead of discouraging it, use it as a promotion to Rally more support for St. Paul later.

Remember, YOU don't have to attend both.

Help it happen, because the DC Rally is at your mercy.

I'm not discouraging anything. I like the idea of a march. Again, all I've been asking is for rationalization that a DC march is going to "work" better than a march in St. Paul.

Responses in this thread have said that marches are indeed being planned in both DC and St. Paul so I suppose that ends the question.

But again, all I'm looking for is reasons that DC is more appropriate than St. Paul.

 

[AJ Antimony]

If the grassroots can pull off three moderately successful (as in hitting solid doubles, not home runs) with the April 15, June 21 and Labor Day rallies, that should be enough. It would demonstrate that the movement is well- and self-organized, consistent and here to stay, versus doing a huge one-off that the mdeia could deliberately non-report/disregard. It'll be pretty hard to ignore three major marches in under six months, 2 of the 3 with maybe 100,000+ turnouts.

Come to think of it, what if there was a even a FOURTH march scheduled for the week end before the election, to support the Paul candidates nationwide? What a remarkable signal of cohesion within the revolution that would send. Think of the projected marches as a life preserver to sustain the momentum of the movement throughout 2008, and not towards a single monster 'last stand' that might get lost in the summer shuffle.

You're right. The April 15th rally will give us a hint about what attendance might be for a big march.

You say 2 out of 3 marches may see over 100,000 supporters. Did you get this number from any source?

Also, make sure you're thinking realistically with history as your aid. Grassroots expected big things before from the Ron Paul campaign and it didn't happen. Certainly there's a chance these events could be HUGE, but looking at recent money bombs and all around recent RP support, attendance could range anywhere from 1 to 350,000. If we can get any idea of the attendance of this thing, it will help GREATLY to convince people to join in.

 

[Deborah K]

You're right. The April 15th rally will give us a hint about what attendance might be for a big march.

You say 2 out of 3 marches may see over 100,000 supporters. Did you get this number from any source?

Also, make sure you're thinking realistically with history as your aid. Grassroots expected big things before from the Ron Paul campaign and it didn't happen. Certainly there's a chance these events could be HUGE, but looking at recent money bombs and all around recent RP support, attendance could range anywhere from 1 to 350,000. If we can get any idea of the attendance of this thing, it will help GREATLY to convince people to join in.

Right now, even without a date, over 12,000 people (see www.revolutionmarch.com ) have pledged to march on washington, and that is just in the past 4 weeks and with a website that is relatively unknown at this time. Imagine when we have a date, and when we can get down to business promoting this thing.

 

[wowabunga]

Come to think of it, what if there was a even a FOURTH march scheduled for the week end before the election, to support the Paul candidates nationwide?

50 marches to 50 state capitals.... yep....