I started the Atkins Diet today

That is not the difference between the two diets.

Mark Sisson said numerous times that dairy is NOT primal. Of course the caveat is that he essentially says a little wont kill you, but that does not mean that dairy is in anyway primal. He actually wrote a post detailing the difference in the diets. The main difference is that Paleo tends to try and detour heavy saturated fat intake whereas Mark advocates getting 50-75% of your calories from healthy fats. As far as artificial sweeteners go you have it backwards..... Artificial sweetners are allowed on Paleo, not primal.

here is the article detailing the difference between the two lifestyle diets. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/whats-the-difference-between-primal-and-paleo/#axzz1z3geXbuz


And honestly, I think they are (for the most part) interchangeable.

I guess you have done more research on the diets. But most of it is basically common sense and experimentation if you want to lose weight effectively. Some people even say running is bad during the beginning of induction, but all I know is I try to eat around 30-50g carbohydrates a day, always running when up in the 50's. Its simply all a matter of keeping insulin levels lower and more stabilized. Protein being used to repair muscle is what your insulin should primarily be doing if ketone levels are optimal.
 
I guess you have done more research on the diets. But most of it is basically common sense and experimentation if you want to lose weight effectively. Some people even say running is bad during the beginning of induction, but all I know is I try to eat around 30-50g carbohydrates a day, always running when up in the 50's. Its simply all a matter of keeping insulin levels lower and more stabilized. Protein being used to repair muscle is what your insulin should primarily be doing if ketone levels are optimal.


yeah, i think the most important thing is stabilizing insulin. That is where the weight and inflammation come from.
 
yeah, i think the most important thing is stabilizing insulin. That is where the weight and inflammation come from.

Yes. But balancing essential fatty acids is also important. Too much omega 6 is inflammatory.
 
That is not the difference between the two diets.

Mark Sisson said numerous times that dairy is NOT primal. Of course the caveat is that he essentially says a little wont kill you, but that does not mean that dairy is in anyway primal. He actually wrote a post detailing the difference in the diets. The main difference is that Paleo tends to try and detour heavy saturated fat intake whereas Mark advocates getting 50-75% of your calories from healthy fats. As far as artificial sweeteners go you have it backwards..... Artificial sweetners are allowed on Paleo, not primal.

here is the article detailing the difference between the two lifestyle diets. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/whats-the-difference-between-primal-and-paleo/#axzz1z3geXbuz


And honestly, I think they are (for the most part) interchangeable.

Mark Sission doesn't speak as absolute on the matter as you do. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/dairy-intolerance/#axzz1zEEeTRb5 Also, there is the fact that both of his cookbooks are about 25% butter...
 
Yes. But balancing essential fatty acids is also important. Too much omega 6 is inflammatory.


yeah, no doubt. I was just summarizing the main thing to take away from the lifestyle (at least in my opinion)

Mark Sission doesn't speak as absolute on the matter as you do. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/dairy-intolerance/#axzz1zEEeTRb5 Also, there is the fact that both of his cookbooks are about 25% butter...

yes, he calls for clarified butter which is also known as ghee. This is butter that has had the milk solids boiled out.
 
Day 41: 263.6
Change: -34.8


So a lot has changed in the past 2 weeks. I realized I had to make a change to my 500 calories diet. First off, I had plateaued and there for the last few days I actually started gaining weight. Very strange... Anyway, another reason I had to change was because I almost passed out a little over a week ago. So about 10 days ago I bumped my diet up to 1000 calories. My weight bumped up slightly before(like I said before) and some more after I went to 1000 calories. Then 5 days ago I bought a tread mill. I spend at least 1 hour every day on it, 30 minutes at a time. 5 days ago, when I bought the tread mill, I weighed 267.5. So, that is almost a pound a day, again.

I do feel like I could consume anywhere from 1300-1500 calories a day but I am going to try this out for 2 weeks in total and then make an assessment.

What do you guys think. Are 1000 calories okay? Now I know from personal experience that 500 is not near enough. And eventually you start reversing your weight loss. Can anyone actually explain to me why that happens?
 
Day 41: 263.6
Change: -34.8


So a lot has changed in the past 2 weeks. I realized I had to make a change to my 500 calories diet. First off, I had plateaued and there for the last few days I actually started gaining weight. Very strange... Anyway, another reason I had to change was because I almost passed out a little over a week ago. So about 10 days ago I bumped my diet up to 1000 calories. My weight bumped up slightly before(like I said before) and some more after I went to 1000 calories. Then 5 days ago I bought a tread mill. I spend at least 1 hour every day on it, 30 minutes at a time. 5 days ago, when I bought the tread mill, I weighed 267.5. So, that is almost a pound a day, again.

I do feel like I could consume anywhere from 1300-1500 calories a day but I am going to try this out for 2 weeks in total and then make an assessment.

What do you guys think. Are 1000 calories okay? Now I know from personal experience that 500 is not near enough. And eventually you start reversing your weight loss. Can anyone actually explain to me why that happens?

I would go to 1300-1500 per day. I am guessing your body went into starvation mode at 500 calories per day since that is not nearly enough to sustain a person. 1000 is still too low. Depending on what you're eating, you definitely should be able to make another 500 calorie jump. For a 263 lb person, I can't imagine 1000 calories being enough.
 
im with TCE here.

you need more than 1000 calories a day. bump it up to 1500 and your diet will be more sustainable and you'll be able to embed it into your lifestyle as opposed to just a crash diet.


plus, i'd recommend taking at least a basic multi-vite if your continue with your low, low calorie diet.
 
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Day 41: 263.6
Change: -34.8


So a lot has changed in the past 2 weeks. I realized I had to make a change to my 500 calories diet. First off, I had plateaued and there for the last few days I actually started gaining weight. Very strange... Anyway, another reason I had to change was because I almost passed out a little over a week ago. So about 10 days ago I bumped my diet up to 1000 calories. My weight bumped up slightly before(like I said before) and some more after I went to 1000 calories. Then 5 days ago I bought a tread mill. I spend at least 1 hour every day on it, 30 minutes at a time. 5 days ago, when I bought the tread mill, I weighed 267.5. So, that is almost a pound a day, again.

I do feel like I could consume anywhere from 1300-1500 calories a day but I am going to try this out for 2 weeks in total and then make an assessment.

What do you guys think. Are 1000 calories okay? Now I know from personal experience that 500 is not near enough. And eventually you start reversing your weight loss. Can anyone actually explain to me why that happens?

TCE is right. You pushed your body into starvation mode. Why are you torturing yourself?
 
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Day 45: 259.4
Change: -39

My ObamaCare is going to be a lot cheaper now! :D

Way to go, Andrew! I've been doing Primal/Atkins since last Feb, and started in the gym since last July. I've lost 85 lbs since then. I have about 30 more to go, and the past 2 weeks I've taken a break and stayed at maintenance mode, letting my right knee heal up a bit. But Primal + Moderate exercise works wonders! I have been averaging about 1500 calories a day, maybe 2000 some days, but keeping the carbs under 100g a day forces your body to burn Fat and not Sugars.

Hang in there. That -40 will be -80 before long. When you get to -60, people will start noticing (they did for me anyway!)

:)
 
Exercise and dieting are key. I always eat things that i enjoy but also are healthy. I eat 5-6 meals a day and go to the gym twice a day (once on my way to, and leaving work). This is the routine i follow....

Wake up at 5 am

Meal 1: 6 egg whites cooked. and a whey protein shake with 1/2 a cup of raw oatmeal with a handful of blueberries. Also take fish oil pills.

Workout at 6:00 a.m. Focus on main body part for that day (arms, chest, legs, shoulders, back, etc). Then end the last 20 minutes with swimming.

Meal 2 (8-8:30): Whey protein shake and a of a peanut butter and banana sandwich

Meal 3 (10:30-11): 1/2 of another peanut butter and banana sandwich

Meal 4 (1:00): brown rice with broccoli and chicken breast

Meal 5 (4:00): the last half of the peanut butter and banana sandwich

Workout (after work 5-6 pm) Abs and cardio only at gym

Meal 6 (7:00): Whey protein shake and 1/3 lbs deli meat.
 
I thought he slipped on ice and fell or something?

Anyway, it is processed carbohydrates that cause heart disease, not good fats or even saturated fats. The government food pyramids are wrong. They are based off diets that were used to fatten cattle. Way too heavy on sugar, grains, and starches.

Just What Killed the Diet Doctor, And What Keeps the Issue Alive?

By N.R. KLEINFIELD
Published: February 11, 2004


So was he fat or svelte or maybe a tad chubby? Was it really a slip on the ice or could it have been something else -- even, dare it be said, something he ate?

Now there are confidential documents passed to the news media, and still more dueling authorities, not to mention the ticklish matter of the mayor and the doctor's widow and the promised steak dinner.

Oh the mess goes on and on like a seven-course meal.

Dr. Robert Atkins, the diet doctor who popularized the notion that dieters could eat fat and lose weight, has been dead for nearly a year, after he fell on some ice and hit his head last April, yet indecorous questions about his health and, yes, his weight persist, and the mayor, who hasn't even been on the diet, can't seem to stay out of it all.

The latest twist is the publication in The Wall Street Journal on Tuesday of details from Dr. Atkins's confidential medical report. The report concludes that Dr. Atkins, 72, had a history of heart attack and congestive heart failure and notes that he weighed 258 pounds at death.

The release of the report by New York City officials outraged the Atkins people. It also annoyed Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, already on delicate ground in Atkins matters. ''What happened is we made a mistake,'' said Ellen Borakove, spokeswoman for the city medical examiner's office. Late last year, the office received a request for Dr. Atkins's medical report from Dr. Richard Fleming of the Fleming Heart and Health Institute in Omaha, Neb. On Dec. 22, a member of the records staff mistakenly mailed it out.

While cause and manner of death are public information, medical reports are not. They are to be shared only with the next of kin or anyone authorized by the next of kin, physicians or medical facilities that treated the deceased, or state or federal facilities that legitimately need it.

So it was fine to tell the world that the cause of death was ''blunt impact injury of head with epidural hematoma'' because Dr. Atkins ''fell from upright position,'' but that's it.

Dr. Fleming was not a treating physician, and, according to Ms. Borakove, did not say he was. A critic of the Atkins diet, he passed the report on to a group he was acquainted with, the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, which promotes a vegetarian diet and denounces the Atkins plan.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/11/n...et-doctor-and-what-keeps-the-issue-alive.html
 
I have never figured it up until now. Between 65 and 75 carbs. 75 is the high side and it's hardly ever that many.
 
I recommend kettle bell workouts. It might not isolate certain muscles like traditional lifting does, but the strength you gain is much more impressive. Wrestlers and MMA fights use kettle bells for that reason. That and you can do them at home instead of spending $ monthly at the gym. I personally haven't done this yet because of my constant moving around, but when i do i will buy them and start. This site has great deals and they sponsor Joe Rogan Podcast (A big Paul supporter) http://www.onnit.com/kettlebells/

Steve Maxwell is great with Kettle Bell workouts




 
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Day 56: 251.4
Change: -47


I have started eating five meals a day and they are spaced out from 8:30am to 6:30pm. I am moving faster on the treadmill. Exercisng on it for 1 hour and 10 mins instead of 1 hour. 35 mins in the morning and 35 mins in the evening.
 
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So today I started the Atkins Diet. I got on the scale and realized just how badly I really needed to lose weight. I stand at 5'7 and weigh 297. I'm getting married in one month, so by then I hope to weigh about 275. I've been on this diet before, so I know I can drop weight pretty fast in the beginning. Anyway, this thread will be like a little journal to let you all know how I'm doing with it.



Day 1: 297 lbs

How did the wedding go and how are you doing with the diet change? Take good care.
 
Day 82: 239.2
Change: -59.2


It has been a while since I have posted to this thread, I kind of forgot about it. As you can tell the weight loss has slowed down a good bit, but it is still coming off.
 
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