I Officially Reject Glenn Beck. This video changed me

[AuH20]

I didn't suggest that it stopped at the borders of Israel. But protection of Israel is frequently at the heart and center of these foreign wars in which we involve our military.

True. But any true neoconservative wants to intervene on every continent. Beck has never stated such lust and has gone on the record condemning such foolishness. With that said, his attraction towards Israel is largely biblical, in that he believes that if Israel falls than the U.S. is at risk. I personally disagree with him on the account that the resources aren't simply there to fight and defeat 300 million muslims in the event it spirals out of control. There is no net gain.

 

[cajuncocoa]

I agree with your statement and consider myself pro-Israel and anti-intervention. But Beck scares people with rumors of war concerning the muslim imam, and made a statement about how everything is going to come down to choosing side...are you with or against Israel. He sells our current foreign policy by using religion to convince people that we need to be over there fighting muslims, but is subtle about it.

From the Wikipedia entry on Neoconservatism:

Today's neo-conservatives unite around three common themes:

1. A belief deriving from religious conviction that the human condition is defined as a choice between good and evil and that the true measure of political character is to be found in the willingness by the former (themselves) to confront the latter.
2. An assertion that the fundamental determinant of the relationship between states rests on military power and the willingness to use it.
3. A primary focus on the Middle East and global Islam as the principal theater for American overseas interests.

In putting these themes into practice, neo-conservatives:

1. Analyze international issues in black-and-white, absolute moral categories. They are fortified by a conviction that they alone hold the moral high ground and argue that disagreement is tantamount to defeatism.
2. Focus on the "unipolar" power of the United States, seeing the use of military force as the first, not the last, option of foreign policy. They repudiate the "lessons of Vietnam," which they interpret as undermining American will toward the use of force, and embrace the "lessons of Munich," interpreted as establishing the virtues of preemptive military action.
3. Disdain conventional diplomatic agencies such as the State Department and conventional country-specific, realist, and pragmatic, analysis. They are hostile toward nonmilitary multilateral institutions and instinctively antagonistic toward international treaties and agreements. "Global unilateralism" is their watchword. They are fortified by international criticism, believing that it confirms American virtue.

Look to the Reagan administration as the exemplar of all these virtues and seek to establish their version of Reagan's legacy as the Republican and national orthodoxy.[SUP][4][/SUP][SUP]:11[/SUP]​

Seems to fit Beck to a T.

 

[AuH20]

I agree with your statement and consider myself pro-Israel and anti-intervention. But Beck scares people with rumors of war concerning the muslim imam, and made a statement about how everything is going to come down to choosing side...are you with or against Israel. He sells our current foreign policy by using religion to convince people that we need to be over there fighting muslims, but is subtle about it.

Muslim fanaticism is a real and present danger. It isn't a fabrication, but in terms of national priorities it's way down the line.

 

[dinosaur]

From the Wikipedia entry on Neoconservatism:
Seems to fit Beck to a T.

IMO he is one because he aids their cause but the wiki definition is flawed. It is about power for the globalists. The israel-first evangelicals are just being duped by people selling lies to them.

 

[dinosaur]

Muslim fanaticism is a real and present danger. It isn't a fabrication, but in terms of national priorities it's way down the line.

I actually agree with you, but we are creating the problem. If we were really afraid of muslims, we would leave them in the stone age and not be arming and training them.

 

[donnay]

Supporting Israel does not make one a neoconservative. Neoconservatism is largely predicated upon spreading a fascist view of order and crony capitalism throughout the entire world. It doesn't stop at the borders of Israel, hence the Iraq war meme of "spreading democracy."

PNAC - Project For The New American Century. Zionist agenda.

"By Way of Deception, thou shalt do War" ~ Motto of the Mossad

 

[cajuncocoa]

IMO he is one because he aids their cause but the wiki definition is flawed. It is about power, not religion. The israel-first evangelicals are just being duped by people selling lies to them.

Of course. Many of them are using religion (hence, Israel) to advance their cause to gain power. And it works.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Let's revisit an example of Glenn Beck wisdom (sarcasm) from last week. Tell me just what is conservative -- as opposed to neoconservative -- about this:

Beck Says to Shoot Gitmo Prisoners in the Head

 

[DamianTV]

So beck changed his ways and has chosen to support Liberty?

Beck Says to Shoot Gitmo Prisoners in the Head

I'd say he is genuinely full of shit, but people here for some reason are not smelling the shit that he shat for what it really is. I'll put it this way. He says he supports liberty, but really you should know that he is LYING.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

I'd suggest to the candid observer that Beck and his audience are typical of the people that we need to reach in oder to get sufficient numbers of people on board with more realistic libertarian principles if we are to achieve meaningful success via the political process. Knowing how they are motivated is therefore, useful.

Beck's audience I would agree. Beck himself, you can pretty much give up on. Six years now Beck says all the right things to win trust, and then at the critical moment does everything he can to divert that trust back to the status quo. He's done that consistently for 6 years, he's not changing now.

 

[purplechoe]

Muslim fanaticism is a real and present danger. It isn't a fabrication, but in terms of national priorities it's way down the line.

What about Jewish fanaticism? These people believe that the land was given to them by God thousands of years ago and which hasn't been a Jewish nation to thousands more. Please check you Muslim fanaticism problem BS unless you're willing to admit that the other side is just as fanatical in it's dogma...

 

[Conza88]

Boom. Well done.