I need proof that USA has a failing economy

[cska80]

http://www.able2know.org/forums/about55762.html
I just googled some info about countries with the highest standard of living and found this list of the top ten. (However, this is for the years 2003-2004). Thought it would be interesting to share it with you.

World Top 10 - Countries with Highest
Standard of Living

Country

1. Norway
2. Sweden
3. Canada
4. Belgium
5. Australia
6. United States
7. Iceland
8. Netherlands
9. Japan
10. Finland
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http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-quality-of-life-map.html
World Top 10 - Countries with High
Standard of Living

Country
Norway
Sweden
Canada
Belgium
Australia
United States
Iceland
Netherlands
Japan
Finland

I wouldn't trust most of those ranking charts. A lot of them take off points and what not for things such as percentage of the population that doesn't have health insurance. They consider our standard of living lower because we don't have a socialized medicine program here where everyone can be covered.

I'd just look at the common family in America. They're either on welfare, or the majority have two parents working two jobs and barely keeping their heads above water.

 

[RickyJ]

The USA has a third world economy. What more proof do you need to see it is failing? Tell your friend to take the blinders off. Reality sucks, but it is indeed reality. A nation that can't produce its own products and has to rely on funny money, which only still has some value due to its world reserve currency role, to purchase necessities from overseas is a nation that is on its last legs. We are up the creek without a paddle. Our enemies have enjoyed watching us get into this situation and will do everything in their power to make sure it crushes us as a super power.

 

[InLoveWithRon]

We have the highest standard of living of any country in the world and the average person has more disposable income than any other country in the world

Bullshit.. The economy is based on easy credit.. The average savings for an american is MINUS 2%.. And that averages out every pro athlete, celebrity, sports team owners, CEO of corporations, middle class, everyone !!! Americans has -2$ savings.. Thats NEGATIVE.. The people are in the red.. If the people dont have money that means the fed reserve and the international bankers have the money..

Take a look at this, the US is fucking bankrupt ! And here is the US comptroller, the ACCOUNTANT for America Telling you this !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-16u9x3tfE

The US dollar is actually worth 4 cents, that a FACT .. The value of the dollar is over inflated artificially by the fed reserve with all their rate cuts, and stock market pimping via the PPT..

Enjoy.. Thats the truth

 

[matratzac]

LOl i cant get over the irony that he is from MICHIGAN and thinks this

 

[constitutional]

LOl i cant get over the irony that he is from MICHIGAN and thinks this

The rust belt state...

 

[silverlegacy]

Most of the world runs on a system of credit. The ones that don't are the enemies. It shows here that people haven't really been around the world to see how bad it really can get. The US enjoys one of the highest quality of lives in the world. Our citizens might not make the most money (though we are very close), but we have such a low tax rate in many ways that we actually have a top 3 disposable income if not the highest. Granted that is not quality of life but it is a factor. The ratings for quality of life factor in health care, work hours, commute, wages, crime etc. Americans work more than almost any other country and have extreme urban sprawl.

I have been to many European and pacific rim countries and I can tell you that the US is really really well off. Spend a week in Slovakia, Vietnam, South Korea and you will understand how good we have it here. Right now there is a culture shock on how the world is catching up to us. We are losing our grip.

This country will be fine, even with the outsourcing that has happened, our country has a very effective base and innovative people that will find a way. Globalization also creates jobs in the US and this in-sourcing has created many jobs in this country and will continue. Also, if you want to stop this outsourcing of our manufacturing, you need to try to elect very protectionist and high tariff officials. Ron Paul is not one of those people, he promotes and wants free trade and not under disguise of those BS agreements true free trade. Romney is saying that he will try to protect American business, now he could change his mind in 5 minutes.

 

[matratzac]

The rust belt state...

yep

 

[matratzac]

Most of the world runs on a system of credit. The ones that don't are the enemies. It shows here that people haven't really been around the world to see how bad it really can get. The US enjoys one of the highest quality of lives in the world. Our citizens might not make the most money (though we are very close), but we have such a low tax rate in many ways that we actually have a top 3 disposable income if not the highest. Granted that is not quality of life but it is a factor. The ratings for quality of life factor in health care, work hours, commute, wages, crime etc. Americans work more than almost any other country and have extreme urban sprawl.

I have been to many European and pacific rim countries and I can tell you that the US is really really well off. Spend a week in Slovakia, Vietnam, South Korea and you will understand how good we have it here. Right now there is a culture shock on how the world is catching up to us. We are losing our grip.

This country will be fine, even with the outsourcing that has happened, our country has a very effective base and innovative people that will find a way. Globalization also creates jobs in the US and this in-sourcing has created many jobs in this country and will continue. Also, if you want to stop this outsourcing of our manufacturing, you need to try to elect very protectionist and high tariff officials. Ron Paul is not one of those people, he promotes and wants free trade and not under disguise of those BS agreements true free trade. Romney is saying that he will try to protect American business, now he could change his mind in 5 minutes.

who are u voting for

 

[Kregener]

 

[matratzac]

my reply:


"We have the highest standard of living of any country in the world"

wrong.
World Top 10 - Countries with Highest
Standard of Living

Country

1. Norway
2. Sweden
3. Canada
4. Belgium
5. Australia
6. United States
7. Iceland
8. Netherlands
9. Japan
10. Finland

Now, I wouldn't put TOO much emphasis on lists like these, a lot of them take off points and what not for things such as percentage of the population that doesn't have health insurance. They consider our standard of living lower because we don't have a socialized medicine program here where everyone can be covered.

I'd just look at the common family in America. They're either on welfare, or the majority have two parents working two jobs and barely keeping their heads above water. We are in the lucky minority.
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"average person has more disposable income than any other country in the world"

wrong.
Here is the top 10 GDP per capita. This is usually a fairly accurate number for standard of living.
#1 Luxembourg: 79,851.004 per capita
#2 Norway: 63,918.154 per capita
#3 Iceland: 53,290.278 per capita
#4 Qatar: 52,239.722 per capita
#5 Switzerland: 49,351.145 per capita
#6 Ireland: 48,524.176 per capita
#7 Denmark: 47,768.732 per capita
#8 United States: 41,889.59 per capita
#9 Sweden: 39,636.637 per capita
#10 Netherlands: 38,248.035 per capita

another link: http://www.economist.com/daily/chartgallery/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9532941

The mainstream news media themselves are admitting that we're in a recession. The stock market keeps diving every day. Since 2002 the dollar has dropped 36%.

Heres a chart of the value of the US dollar in the last 2 years
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$USD&p=D&yr=2&mn=0&dy=0&id=p07643150030

The average savings for an American is MINUS 2%.. And that averages out every pro athlete, celebrity, sports team owners, CEO of corporations, middle class, everyone !!! Americans has -2$ savings.. Thats NEGATIVE.. The people are in the red.. If the people dont have money that means the fed reserve and the international bankers have the money.. but even they don't. The federal reserve just resorts to printing more money, which increases inflation.

Take a look at this, the US is fucking bankrupt ! And here is the US comptroller, the ACCOUNTANT for America Telling you this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-16u9x3tfE

The US dollar is actually worth 4 cents, that a FACT .. The value of the dollar is over inflated artificially by the fed reserve with all their rate cuts, and stock market pimping via the PPT..

And the irony of this whole situation is that you are from Michigan. Michigan, the "rust belt state" has an absolutely terrible economic problem.

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I am an individualist in both social and fiscal areas. I believe you are most of an individualist however you have hints of collectivisism when it comes to social issues and when it comes to fiscal areas I think you are definitely collectivist. Would you agree?

Ron Paul is the epitome of an Individualist.
Obama is the epitome of Collectivism.
Hilary, Edwards, McCain, Romney, Guiliani, and Huckabee can just go fuck themselves and die for all I care. And then get eaten by rats.

The only thing in this movie I disagree with is that totalitarianism = collectivism. However, it might come close to it in some areas.

 

[Tom228]

Going by GDP/ capita is not fool proof, you could have a booming economy but hundreds of millions of people which can throw the statistics way off. Then you have the elderly and the very young who don't work. Then you divide GDP by the total population which includes all those elderly retirees and young kids.

matratzac said:
who are u voting for

I like how you question he's/ or she's voting for someone else when he/ or she has differing opinions.

As for the Standard of living, we have considerably a bigger population than all of those other countries COMBINED.

Combined: 227,420,055
USA: 301,138,947

Once again for GDP/ capita, our population is over 300 million people larger than all of the others. It's harder to ensure that everyone has a high standard of living when you have 300 million people.

For example Luxemburg's GDP is about $38-40 billion, their population, not even 1 million. Not even HALF a million.

No disrespect for our Nation's Comptroller, but he is not an economist. There is nothing wrong with deficit spending, depending on what it's being spent on. War isn't one of those things you want to deficit spend on.