I made the switch to Anarcho-capitalism....what a trip!

[muzzled dogg]

next thing you know you'll be moving to nh

 

[mczerone]

Because I honestly believe that the whole thing is another form of mind control that is used to make people politically dysfunctional.

Okay, who is pushing this mind control? Isn't there more evidence that there's mind control is being used to make people continue holding on to these fantasies of a necessary govt?

And aren't these fantasies making you personally dysfunctional, wasting time trying to devise the ultimate "central planner" solutions to life's problems that you'll never be able to put into effect? Walling people off from others, pitting them against each other over the control of the govt?

I don't want to be "politically functional" - I want to be the best me that I can be, and no one in city council, state legislature, D.C., or Geneva can do that for me. So why should I care what they do, except to work around their threats and show others that they aren't necessary?

 

[Seraphim]

Stateless governence does not mean no governence.

Yeah right, you're all a bunch of delusional ideologues.

May as well shave your heads and become Hare Krishna's...

A society with no government just isn't real.

 

[Christian Liberty]

next thing you know you'll be moving to nh

Its possible. I want to teach Poli Sci somewhere, and I sure as heck don't want to stay in NYS. I'm not rushing to move tomorrow, but I definitely don't want to stay here long term. I will not be buying any property in NYS (Property taxes are insane, and I don't want to live in one of the 5 most fascist states in the country [possibly the worst])

But where exactly will I go? I don't know. FL is the most likely only because I know I have family I can live with while I finish my education, but long term anything is possible.

 

[Christian Liberty]

With regards to the minarchy v anarchy debate and the whole pragmatism argument... here's my take.

Any free society is going to require vigilance on the part of the politically active population, and particularly those who are ideologically aligned with liberty. I get that. Let's not fool ourselves with debates over minarchy or anarchy being sustained. Both will be hard to sustain. I'm not convinced either is impossible, depending on how you define "sustain" (Nothing lasts forever, no matter what it is.)

The one difference I can see though, I think the constitution is easier to ignore than the NAP in an ancap society. The reason for that being, if you're in a culture with no State, any attempts at aggression would be viewed by that society as being in a similar light as the mafia. Who would accept it as legitimate? In addition to that, if you wanted to enforce laws against victimless "crimes", you'd be forced to pay for that enforcement, so its not as easy as just using "taxation." So, while freedom would have to be supported by people either way, I think the anarchistic way makes it a little harder for control freaks to be control freaks than the minarchist way.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

I grow tired of people peddling fanciful notions. People that push third parties, and others that push anarchism as if that's an end in itself.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

I swear, you people are part of some concerted effort to influence all of us into giving up all political relevancy...

Agreed. Some folks go off the deep end.

 

[Christian Liberty]

I grow tired of people peddling fanciful notions. People that push third parties, and others that push anarchism as if that's an end in itself.

I get tired of people who border on the establishment. You act like you're more upset by "anarchists" and "third party voters" than the warmongering, socialist sickos that make up the majority of the GOP.

And I say that as someone who will almost certainly be voting for Rand.

 

[Ronin Truth]

Yeah right, you're all a bunch of delusional ideologues.

May as well shave your heads and become Hare Krishna's...

A society with no government just isn't real.

Check out Zomia.

The Art of Not Being Governed
http://mises.org/daily/4881

 

[idiom]

There's lots of countries with no government. They are out performing all the countries with government by huge margins. What's more, they have proven themselves readily able to resist the encroachments of countries with governments.

 

[idiom]

The way I define what is and isn't property, and the way I define what is and isn't aggression is binding on everyone.

I have the right to enforce my definitions on everyone that interacts with me.

 

[mad cow]

There lots of countries with no government. They are out performing all the countries with government by huge margins. What's more, they have proven themselves readily able to resist the encroachments of countries with governments.

Name five.

 

[green73]

We have some real revolutionary thinkers here. Is there any doubt where they would have stood in 1776?

Seceding from Britain is just a fanciful notion! You have to work within the system!

 

[mad cow]

We have some real revolutionary thinkers here. Is there any doubt where they would have stood in 1776?

Seceding from Britain is just a fanciful notion! You have to work within the system!

So the Founding Fathers were Anarchists?Who woulda thunk.

 

[green73]

So the Founding Fathers were Anarchists?Who woulda thunk.

You're a genius.

 

[green73]

Obama, Democrats, Republicans, and Defense Spending
Laurence M. Vance

The new National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) has passed the House and the Senate and awaits President Obama’s signature. The vote in the Republican-controlled House was 350-69. The vote in the Democratic-controlled Senate was 84-15. Only 19 Republicans in the House and 12 in the Senate voted against the final version of the bill. Remember this the next time some conservative warmonger complains that Obama and the Democrats are gutting the military. Every dollar that will or won’t be spent on the military has been agreed to by a majority of Republicans in the Congress.

I have all the confidence in the world the Republican party is the only way to go, and it will get us a back to a minarchy.

 

[mad cow]

You're a genius.

Thankyew.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

I grow tired of people peddling fanciful notions. People that push third parties, and others that push anarchism as if that's an end in itself.

Voting for the lesser of two evils works wonders.

 

[green73]

Thankyew.

No, thank you for blessing us with your great mind.

 

[green73]

Everybody knows that the epitome of freedom was achieved with the Lockeans. 240 years and billions of people later, there hasn't been any improvement on the philosophy. None. So, shut up all you who think we can live without a state!