I live in a van down by Duke University (How to live within your means today)

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Feeling superior is a European trait. I'm an American. Better yet, I'm Texan. As such, I'm superior. Let me explain as this can certainly be quite puzzling. Our Sam Houston, the equivalent of George Washington, lived with the Native Americans for two years. When Sam Houston was invading the camp of Santa Anna, a prostitute was in his tent keeping him preoccupied with his pants down. As Texans, we refer to her as, "The Yellow Rose of Texas."
So, as Texans, we shouldn't look down on people who live in tents as we shouldn't look down real hard on ladies working the streets as prostitutes.
See, as a Texan, I don't feel superior because I know my state is superior.
 
Feeling superior is a European trait. I'm an American. Better yet, I'm Texan. As such, I'm superior. Let me explain as this can certainly be quite puzzling. Our Sam Houston, the equivalent of George Washington, lived with the Native Americans for two years. When Sam Houston was invading the camp of Santa Anna, a prostitute was in his tent keeping him preoccupied with his pants down. As Texans, we refer to her as, "The Yellow Rose of Texas."
So, as Texans, we shouldn't look down on people who live in tents as we shouldn't look down real hard on ladies working the streets as prostitutes.
See, as a Texan, I don't feel superior because I know my state is superior.
What is your state superior to? What is special about your plot of dirt surrounded by imaginary borders?
 
Let's hear from the RPF ladies:

Would you be able to see past the slightly smelly, eating off food encrusted dinnerware, exterior and see the man beneath?

Or blow him off as the creepy guy living in his van?

LoL

It depends. I don't fault people for things they can't help. Slovenly ways are often a symptom of something, so if someone has the means to wash their plate, but decides to be gross about it, that's a problem. Lots of folks have that problem even if they live in mansions, though :p I'm not sure I'd ever meet this theoretical van-denizen, but I'd at least strike up a conversation if I did. There's nothing wrong with talking to people, just vital to have your alarm bells loud and clear.

A guy living in his car does not necessarily mean he's a bum, a slob, crazy, drunk, or any other thing one can think up.
 
What is your state superior to? What is special about your plot of dirt surrounded by imaginary borders?

My state isn't superior, but special because of how our Texas founding fathers advanced what our U.S. Founding Fathers accomplished earlier. While the United States defeated the tyranny of Great Britain, my state of Texas defeated a tyrant from Mexico with a lot of help from a prostitute who, at the battle of San Jacinto, had the dictator distrated in a tent with his pants down.
The fact we are neglected down here, abandoned, and left to take care of ourselves is nothing new. Wasn't it the U.S. army who aided the Texas Rangers in winning the war with Mexico and not the other way around?
 
Great read. Thanks. I don't agree with his giving up beer. I would drink warm beer over no beer. Unfortunately beer that is tolerable warm is not the cheap pisswater. Will he still be living in the van with a PhD in English? At least he writes well.
 
Great read. Thanks. I don't agree with his giving up beer. I would drink warm beer over no beer. Unfortunately beer that is tolerable warm is not the cheap pisswater. Will he still be living in the van with a PhD in English? At least he writes well.

I'd just go down the the liquor store and get a 40.. but you probably couldn't do it every night if you're working that hard to get your expenses down to around $4/day, maybe a couple times a week or so.
 
I can't believe no one posted this. This was the first thing that I thought of when I saw your title.

 
"Twas the night before Christmas, and all through the van, Your ol' buddy Matt fell asleep behind the can. His children were nestled two time zones away, With his first wife and her husband, in sunny L.A. Matt woke up and realzied with a chill and a quiver That he was living in a van down by the river!"
 
Let's hear from the RPF ladies: Would you be able to see past the slightly smelly, eating off food encrusted dinnerware, exterior and see the man beneath? Or blow him off as the creepy guy living in his van?

At the very least, I would give him a list of suggestions for more comfortable van living.

First of all, he should have bought a cargo van - that is, one without side windows in the back, and having only the driver and passenger seats - for greater privacy and added space. Then all he would need for curtains would be one behind the front seats and one over the back windows.

A platform bed running width-wise across the back of the van provides a ton of storage space underneath. Also, a 2" dowel with half of each end chiseled off like so:

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can be inserted neatly into the Econoline's inner frame where the sidewalls and roof meet, for hanging clothes. I had mine just inside the rear doors. Curtains there kept the sun from fading the colors.

I built a cooking area behind the driver's seat, consisting of countertop, two-burner propane stove, and rack space. Underneath were the 5-gallon propane tank (each fill-up would last about two months, cooking twice a day), water jugs and plastic storage bins filled with food, safe from mice and bugs, and out of the way. All sorts of implements were hung from large wire hooks attached into the "ribs" of the van body.

Toilet consisted of a #10 can with plastic lid for urine (a large plastic coffee can is easier to handle, but they weren't around when I was living in an Econoline), and a 2.5-gallon plastic bucket (with lid) and sawdust (available free at any sawmill) to cover stool. That whole mess can be buried or dumped in the woods or even sealed into plastic bags and put into a dumpster.

Bathing inside an Econoline apartment is a simple matter of heating water in a stockpot and using a dishpan to take a sponge bath. I learned to take a complete bath AND wash my long hair with less than two gallons of water, which I would inconspicuously dump on the lawn or parking lot. Once a week I would spend $1.50 on a visit to the university pool for a "real" shower.

Since I didn't need to hide the fact that I was living in the van, I made a special curtain to attach like an awning over the rear side double doors when they were open, and a mosquito curtain to hang across the side door opening. Of course I had small chunks of wood stored in a bag hanging from the inside of the side doors to slip into the hinges to keep the doors from blowing shut. So there was plenty of ventilation, even in the rain. The same could be done with the rear doors if one really wants a lot of wind!

For light, I used a propane lantern, oil lamp or candle(s), depending on how much light I needed and what I had available at a given time. Like I said, there was plenty of storage under the bed (queen size) with access both from inside the van and from the back doors. One can also rent an 8'x10' unit for about $25/month to keep additional supplies if one is not constantly on the move, or get a top carrier if you are.
 
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That's pretty extreme. For all the talk about crippling student debt, there's still thousands of kids who rent really modest apartments at state schools, and study something useful like engineering, or accounting/finance, then find a job that makes it pretty easy to pay back their debt.

If he loves English and thinks a Duke education is unparalleled fine, but living in a van isn't necessary. He could have just gotten a more marketable degree and gone to a cheaper school.
 
That's pretty extreme. For all the talk about crippling student debt, there's still thousands of kids who rent really modest apartments at state schools, and study something useful like engineering, or accounting/finance, then find a job that makes it pretty easy to pay back their debt.

If he loves English and thinks a Duke education is unparalleled fine, but living in a van isn't necessary. He could have just gotten a more marketable degree and gone to a cheaper school.

If he was just enjoying it, I'd be fine with it. Bhut his message is that he's a martyr making a case that the government has the responsibility to make his life better than it is.
 
Trying getting girls living in a van.
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It depends. I don't fault people for things they can't help. Slovenly ways are often a symptom of something, so if someone has the means to wash their plate, but decides to be gross about it, that's a problem. Lots of folks have that problem even if they live in mansions, though :p I'm not sure I'd ever meet this theoretical van-denizen, but I'd at least strike up a conversation if I did. There's nothing wrong with talking to people, just vital to have your alarm bells loud and clear.

A guy living in his car does not necessarily mean he's a bum, a slob, crazy, drunk, or any other thing one can think up.

AKA, she'd hit it
 
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