I live in a van down by Duke University (How to live within your means today)

Let's hear from the RPF ladies:

Would you be able to see past the slightly smelly, eating off food encrusted dinnerware, exterior and see the man beneath?


LoL
My wife did. ;)

That was the second thing that impressed me about her.
I didn't scare her. ( I told her my real name and the warrants for my arrest)

When we met I had a backpack of all my belongings and an alias.
 
What is the use of college to suffer such, and still have no job or meaning when done with the graduate degree?
 
My wife did. ;)

That was the second thing that impressed me about her.
I didn't scare her. ( I told her my real name and the warrants for my arrest)

When we met I had a backpack of all my belongings and an alias.

I was on the lam from the IRS and Broadzilla, one step away from living in my truck.

Mrs AF still busts my chops about that truck, it was blue with gray primer spots.

She thought it was a hippy mural with clouds. LoL
 
Are you being serious? 1) Where will the money come from for "free" college (and housing until age 21)? 2) How does keeping people out of the workforce (thus preventing them from gaining real world skills) improve the economy?

State universities were created towards the end of World War 2 to keep returning veterans from reentering too soon into what was at that time a booming economy. After fifty years of economic depressions and thirty years of a Great Depression, there was real fear our nation's economy was once again about to tank. As soldiers have died for this nation and as even far more workers have died building the foundation of its economy, teachers can certainly do their part as well.
 
All that to get a degree that will be useless in this job market? . . . didn't quite think that one through did he?

Also, if he wants to test his spartan like limits, why do it at a nice university? Why put your classmates through the hell of having to smell you and put up with your egocentric experiment? I wish he'd gotten caught. Then he could test his spartan like existence when he sues the school and has to pay his lawyer fees. There is a better way to protest outrageous tuition fees, ...don't go to a university.

It would be one thing if his family lived in poverty and he was working his way out, but it sounded like there was plenty of money there to get a studio apartment off campus. Or even just rent someone's basement.

I don't have any warm fuzzies for this guy. The whole way through I kept thinking, "eww".

And, yet, he was living better than our Founding Fathers, living better than all those noble Native Americans that the long haired professors like going on about, and living better than all those poor homeless people who the social cognitive scientists could use their influence to have housed in the air conditioned hallways of the institututions of higher learning.
Wouldn't you be willing to walk around a sleeping homeless person if taking such a nickels worth of effort amounted to a little bit of happiness?
Look, to put it bluntly, we need to quit shitting and pissing in the water. We need to quit taking so many bathes. We are wasting water. We blame so much nonsense on BP when we shit and piss in the water.
For cripes sake, toughen up! You remind me of our ancestors who first came over here from Europe. Learn to grow something. Get a little dirt under your fingernails.
 
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I loved in a van for roughly around a month after I moved to NC. The author in the OP makes it sound much more glorious and great than it actually is.

Food storage can be a major issue. You're limited to how much you can buy and where to store it when you live in such a small space, a lot of food will spoil quickly. He's also lucky in the fact that a shower was only a short walk to the gym for him. I personally had to go to the houses of co-workers who were nice enough to let me use their showers. My employer was probably the best, he'd offer me and my family one free meal on the job. Good authentic Italian too.

I'm sorry, but if he wants to live in a van, go for it. I don't want a mansion or anything, but I do prefer having my own insulated room where I can have some privacy and space to walk and move around.
 
Let's hear from the RPF ladies:

Would you be able to see past the slightly smelly, eating off food encrusted dinnerware, exterior and see the man beneath?

With someone who writes like that? You bet. But then again, I lived that way myself in Mexico for a few weeks, so I can relate somewhat.
 
I drive the same year and model van he's living in. Mine isn't so nice though - the fold down bed in the back isn't electric in mine.

If I met him in class and he didn't stink, and he told me that he was living in his van in order to graduate debt free from college, I'd be worried that he would use me as a tool to enable him. Until a person, man or woman, is happy with where they are in life it is a bad idea to hook up with them. The man he is isn't the same as the man he will become. So to answer your question, no, I wouldn't fuck him.

He's in grad school because he's not content with the money he would make with just a bachelor's degree. I'm guessing he's a liberal arts major.

I graduated with no student debt and I didn't have to live in a van to do it.

But would you take the trouble to give him a massage and teach him how to meditate? You know, there are other ways to enjoy yourselves besides twiddling around with your wee wees. I've found that giving sex to a woman real easy is always a big mistake as then it becomes the standard. From then on, its will always be less than three minutes, a lot less effort, and a lot less technique.
 
I loved in a van for roughly around a month after I moved to NC. The author in the OP makes it sound much more glorious and great than it actually is.

Food storage can be a major issue. You're limited to how much you can buy and where to store it when you live in such a small space, a lot of food will spoil quickly. He's also lucky in the fact that a shower was only a short walk to the gym for him. I personally had to go to the houses of co-workers who were nice enough to let me use their showers. My employer was probably the best, he'd offer me and my family one free meal on the job. Good authentic Italian too.

I'm sorry, but if he wants to live in a van, go for it. I don't want a mansion or anything, but I do prefer having my own insulated room where I can have some privacy and space to walk and move around.

i hear ya but in tough times it is a luxury;) reminds me of this movie once again;) as i invest in a camper;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFyVs_766S4
 
I loved in a van for roughly around a month after I moved to NC. The author in the OP makes it sound much more glorious and great than it actually is.

Food storage can be a major issue. You're limited to how much you can buy and where to store it when you live in such a small space, a lot of food will spoil quickly. He's also lucky in the fact that a shower was only a short walk to the gym for him. I personally had to go to the houses of co-workers who were nice enough to let me use their showers. My employer was probably the best, he'd offer me and my family one free meal on the job. Good authentic Italian too.

I'm sorry, but if he wants to live in a van, go for it. I don't want a mansion or anything, but I do prefer having my own insulated room where I can have some privacy and space to walk and move around.

Every state university should have a reservation set aside for poor students to return to nature where they can live in tents and tee pees. This is one way of getting universities away from banking institutions and back to the educational institutions they were originally meant to be. Now, having the football players and other atheletes coming around to bully you as they liked doing back in highschool will always be a problem. But life will always have its problems and solving them is why universities were invented in the first place.
 
State universities were created towards the end of World War 2 to keep returning veterans from reentering too soon into what was at that time a booming economy. After fifty years of economic depressions and thirty years of a Great Depression, there was real fear our nation's economy was once again about to tank. As soldiers have died for this nation and as even far more workers have died building the foundation of its economy, teachers can certainly do their part as well.

And, yet, he was living better than our Founding Fathers, living better than all those noble Native Americans that the long haired professors like going on about, and living better than all those poor homeless people who the social cognitive scientists could use their influence to have housed in the air conditioned hallways of the institututions of higher learning.
Wouldn't you be willing to walk around a sleeping homeless person if taking such a nickels worth of effort amounted to a little bit of happiness?
Look, to put it bluntly, we need to quit shitting and pissing in the water. We need to quit taking so many bathes. We are wasting water. We blame so much nonsense on BP when we shit and piss in the water.
For cripes sake, toughen up! You remind me of our ancestors who first came over here from Europe. Learn to grow something. Get a little dirt under your fingernails.

But would you take the trouble to give him a massage and teach him how to meditate? You know, there are other ways to enjoy yourselves besides twiddling around with your wee wees. I've found that giving sex to a woman real easy is always a big mistake as then it becomes the standard. From then on, its will always be less than three minutes, a lot less effort, and a lot less technique.

Every state university should have a reservation set aside for poor students to return to nature where they can live in tents and tee pees. This is one way of getting universities away from banking institutions and back to the educational institutions they were originally meant to be. Now, having the football players and other atheletes coming around to bully you as they liked doing back in highschool will always be a problem. But life will always have its problems and solving them is why universities were invented in the first place.

I'm trying to understand all this, but my sober mind can't do it.

You on something?
 
What is the use of college to suffer such, and still have no job or meaning when done with the graduate degree?

But that is the case with college, steph3n. Students have wrung up a trillion dollar student loan debt that will have to be paid off eventually as they are guaranteed by the Federal government. I was listening to students complain that they will have to be paying off their loans until retirement. Meanwhile, the education the students received aren't any good as they can't be utilized afterwards as any good paying job in the future will be factored in with all those other hard working profit enabling endeavors which cause pollution.
If you are going to school in the future, my advice to you is go to law school. If you go to law school, get into politics. They decide how much money to counterfeit in order to pay themselves!
 
Every state university should have a reservation set aside for poor students to return to nature where they can live in tents and tee pees. This is one way of getting universities away from banking institutions and back to the educational institutions they were originally meant to be.

You can do that at UC Santa Cruz. They are surrounded by a huge forest. Some of the students build tree houses out in the woods, or just camp out there.

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The food commons all take their unused food to a special room where poor students can go get food. So if you can get your tuition paid, you can have free living expenses if you don't mind living in the woods and eating food that will soon expire.
 
I'm trying to understand all this, but my sober mind can't do it.

You on something?

What I see is about four paragraphs of about two thousand words responded to by a single question attacking my character.
But allow me to take the high road. First off, I'm for people being happy. This means like Friedrich Nietzsche, I'm not for people being miserable just because what is being claimed by tyranny is rational. It isn't a matter of whether logic is true, but that its use leads mankind to do what is not in his or her best interest.
Logic and rationality are secondary to me in comparison to the primary consideration of the American people's Civil Purpose. When speaking of the people, I'm not speaking as a victim, but as someone who was once a tyrant and is now converted over to serving them.
There are three kinds of education: The educated, the uneducated, and the diseducated. We receive many years of diseducation before entering into college.
I mean, just think about it for a second! If one is an advanced teacher, those beneath them must be diseducating the students. This is why universities offer basic classes. All these classes teach you is that you mostly learned the wrong thing in your lessor education.
Look, I could go on forever here about how our educational system is fast returning to the age of tyranny when dynasties of master classes ruled over slaves for thousands of years.
 
You can do that at UC Santa Cruz. They are surrounded by a huge forest. Some of the students build tree houses out in the woods, or just camp out there.

treesit2web.jpg


The food commons all take their unused food to a special room where poor students can go get food. So if you can get your tuition paid, you can have free living expenses if you don't mind living in the woods and eating food that will soon expire.

Yes, now this is what I'm talking about! Please, no one let the lawyers in on knowing this is going on. It has to be unconstitutional in some way!
 
Yes, now this is what I'm talking about! Please, no one let the lawyers in on knowing this is going on. It has to be unconstitutional in some way!

I don't know if or how much it occurs anymore, I know it was happening 10 years ago and had been for some time.
 
I don't know if or how much it occurs anymore, I know it was happening 10 years ago and had been for some time.

This is great here as a state college is supposed to be of the people, by the people, for the people. Instead, our property has been obsconded by tyrants to serve as corporations of tyranny, by tyranny, for tyranny.
If Socrates was alive today, he would be active at the schools asking questions like, "What is school?" or "What is education?"
 
This is great here as a state college is supposed to be of the people, by the people, for the people. Instead, our property has been obsconded by tyrants to serve as corporations of tyranny, by tyranny, for tyranny.
If Socrates was alive today, he would be active at the schools asking questions like, "What is school?" or "What is education?"

Nothing is "of the people by the people for the people".

Stop repeating that marxist garbage.

All State Colleges are illegitimate operations run by funds gathered at gunpoint by armed thugs of the State.
 
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