I Invite a Libertarian to be My Neighbor

[centure7]

We can call this the free neighborhood project. Near my house is a 7-bedroom 5-bathroom house on *18 ACRES* listed for $109,000 here:
http://www.masiello.com/real-estate/grafton/3-7-9-neils-lane/4008029.cfm
It looks like a beauty in great condition. 45 to 55 minutes to a large number of major job centers including Dartmouth College, Dartmouth Hospital, and Concord. 20 minutes to nearest decent grocery store (Hannafords in Bristol)

Move in and lets be neighbors! Grafton NH has the highest per-capita libertarians in the United States (by my guess) because of the Free Grafton Project. Better yet, split this with two other RPF people and you'll have 1/3 of a huge house on 18 acres for less than 40k. Alternatively if you and at least two others are super serious about renting on this forum I could try and buy this just to rent it out. Basically, if you want in I'll do everything I can to get you in because there are a lot of great deals right now around town.

Lets do this! NH has the best economy... if you can put an effort into getting a job, you'll find one. At that 109k price this may be destiny at work!

 

[Jesse James]

Why so cheap?

 

[oyarde]

Why so cheap?

Pretty cut up . Built 1800 , two bedroom farmhouse with fireplace , has an In Law apt , garage apt and a loft apt . Best I can tell . Be OK for a young single guy , Rent them out until you get it pd for .2015 taxes were about 500 a month , pretty horrible there by my standards , but probably a bargain for 18 acres out East . Where I am , same thing on 5 or 6 acres , 30 yr loan at 4 percent with taxes & ins probably run about 600 a month .

 

[Iowa]

Why so cheap?

Mold, water, crumbling foundation, or some other would be my guess. I've seen plenty of old houses like this in shape cosmetically but poor in foundation. Sorry to be a wet blanket, op. Great idea though.

 

[oyarde]

Well , looks like it has , new roof , windows and stove.Covered Porch. You could offer less than listing price . My bet is seller takes first reasonable offer.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

That's what we call a tear-down....

 

[oyarde]

Well ,looks like has well water , septic and you could supplement some heat with wood .Those will save some money off monthly utilities.

 

[angelatc]

We can call this the free neighborhood project. Near my house is a 7-bedroom 5-bathroom house on *18 ACRES* listed for $109,000 here:
http://www.masiello.com/real-estate/grafton/3-7-9-neils-lane/4008029.cfm
It looks like a beauty in great condition. 45 to 55 minutes to a large number of major job centers including Dartmouth College, Dartmouth Hospital, and Concord. 20 minutes to nearest decent grocery store (Hannafords in Bristol)

Move in and lets be neighbors! Grafton NH has the highest per-capita libertarians in the United States (by my guess) because of the Free Grafton Project. Better yet, split this with two other RPF people and you'll have 1/3 of a huge house on 18 acres for less than 40k. Alternatively if you and at least two others are super serious about renting on this forum I could try and buy this just to rent it out. Basically, if you want in I'll do everything I can to get you in because there are a lot of great deals right now around town.

Lets do this! NH has the best economy... if you can put an effort into getting a job, you'll find one. At that 109k price this may be destiny at work!

If my kid was out of high school, I'd be calling.

 

[fisharmor]

First, the single most important thing for places like this is to list the internet situation.
Plenty of people like me out there, who can make a go of it provided there is a rock-solid, high bandwidth connection.
Otherwise, it's a glorified hunting cabin but without the hunting.

Second, yeah 500 a month for taxes shows me that the Free Grafton Project (and the FSP in general) isn't really in high gear yet.
I get that the point is when I get there that's two more adults in the balance and three kids that will be there soon enough.
But at 500 a month they're going to get over $100,000 out of me before all five of us are voting.
Considering that everyone who has dissed the house is probably right, and considering I know all too well what it takes to get a house a mere 50 years old up to specs, that 500 a month is the whole difference between having a really nice house in two years, and having half of a really nice house in 15 years.

What is NH's position on property taxes? How long do they have before they're gone?

 

[fisharmor]

Oh, and guys like me also need to know how neighbors would feel about there being audible tool noises at 1 AM.

 

[Carlybee]

Prop tax too high and that place looks like a lot to heat. Cool idea though.

 

[oyarde]

Prop tax too high and that place looks like a lot to heat. Cool idea though.

Very cool idea . Somebody will like the place .

 

[opal]

In Alabama, that property would be closer to $800/yr in property tax.. just sayin

 

[oyarde]

First, the single most important thing for places like this is to list the internet situation.
Plenty of people like me out there, who can make a go of it provided there is a rock-solid, high bandwidth connection.
Otherwise, it's a glorified hunting cabin but without the hunting.

Second, yeah 500 a month for taxes shows me that the Free Grafton Project (and the FSP in general) isn't really in high gear yet.
I get that the point is when I get there that's two more adults in the balance and three kids that will be there soon enough.
But at 500 a month they're going to get over $100,000 out of me before all five of us are voting.
Considering that everyone who has dissed the house is probably right, and considering I know all too well what it takes to get a house a mere 50 years old up to specs, that 500 a month is the whole difference between having a really nice house in two years, and having half of a really nice house in 15 years.

What is NH's position on property taxes? How long do they have before they're gone?

If I recall , NH has no sales tax . That does not mean they spend any less money . I have seen other places with no income tax make it up with sales tax ( Tenn. at 10%) seen places with no income tax make it up with property tax . High property tax is the worst of all . As you get old and spend less and have less income you cannot escape the high property tax but you are escaping most of the others .Any place with no sales tax or income tax will never get rid of property tax . Where I am property tax is limited to 1 percent of assessed value for primary residence , they just get the rest through sales and income .Half of all state income tax and all of property tax collected is used to fund the states free public education where I live , so those taxes will never be cut without cuts to education ( which i support ) . In my state the state spends twice as much per kid per yr ( 10k) as the avg private school ( 5k) . By privatizing education they could eliminate the property tax and cut the income tax in half .

 

[oyarde]

I am giving this 5 stars since centure7 was sharp enough to advertise for a good neighbor .

 

[osan]

Why so cheap?

$6K+/annum property tax.

NFW.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

I'm not trying justify property taxes but consider what's left in your present pocket book if after the end of the year you got back all of your and your spouse's state income and sales taxes (which you wouldn't be paying in NH). Add that to your current property tax and then compare it to any NH town's property tax rate and decide whether you'd be ahead or not. I'd advise folks to plan a vacation up in NH and then see for themselves what life is like up there and take a look around.

 

[oyarde]

I'm not trying justify property taxes but consider what's left in your present pocket book if after the end of the year you got back all of your and your spouse's state income and sales taxes (which you wouldn't be paying in NH). Add that to your current property tax and then compare it to any NH town's property tax rate and decide whether you'd be ahead or not. I'd advise folks to plan a vacation up in NH and then see for themselves what life is like up there and take a look around.

That is right , everyone would need to do the math for themselves .It would never come close for me .

 

[Suzanimal]

Why so cheap?

Taxes and the stripper pole in front of the kitchen sink might have something to do with it.

The stove looks like it's in time out over there in the corner, lol.

 

[oyarde]

Taxes and the stripper pole in front of the kitchen sink might have something to do with it.

The stove looks like it's in time out over there in the corner, lol.

Would have been perfect for me when I was 19 or so .