I hate to admit it but I have no clue what's up with Benghazi and Hillary

RJB

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I usually feel pretty educated on the issues, but when I seek out info on this, I'll either find an hour long Sean Hannity rant about how people died but nothing substantial about what Hillary did. Liberal hosts say she did nothing wrong but they'd say that if there was a video of her shooting the ambassador in the head herself. Digging hasn't given me much info. Could someone summarize or point out a decent read, please?

What is her supposed crime, negligence, something nefarious, stupidity?

What hard evidence do they have to continue to investigate?

What are they looking for in the investigation?

What separates the death of these 4 men from all the thousands of other deaths in this recent War on Terra, including Afghanistan and Iraq?

Is this just a diversion from something bigger?

Thanks.
 
You don't need to really worry about it, because any wrongdoing that Hillary may have engaged in, boobus won't care about it.
 
You are not supposed to have a clue. Just more of the usual D.C., smoke and mirrors and spin and BS. :p
 
What is her supposed crime, negligence, something nefarious, stupidity?

Depends on how crazy you want to go. Some claim she intentionally blocked support to the annex before or during the attack.


What hard evidence do they have to continue to investigate?

None.


What are they looking for in the investigation?

Political talking points and campaign fodder.


What separates the death of these 4 men from all the thousands of other deaths in this recent War on Terra, including Afghanistan and Iraq?

Nothing.*



*Actually, IMHO diplomacy is a legit function of the state, so really they had more business being in Libya than our military has business in Iraq or Afghanistan.


Is this just a diversion from something bigger?

Yes. They think that they can make Hillary look so terrible that her future Republican opponent will actually look good by comparison.
 
Apparently requests for security were made and denied.

Hillary said she wasn't aware of those requests.

Hillary said ambassador Stevens knew how to contact her directly and apparently he didn't? (Something seems odd here). Apparently important emails never reached Hillary.

Team Hillary blamed an "internet video" for weeks as the catalyst for the attack.

Apparently the day of and after (Hillary sent an email to Chelsea saying as much)... that the attack was not a result of the internet video.

And Hillary should be immediately disqualified from office because she is clearly incompetent. She was in charge, and security failed, it's on her.

The "internet video" excuse in my opinion was clearly a coverup to protect Obama with the election around the corner.
 
Like they did against her husband they are using the stupidest weakest charge against her and leaving the major charges unchallenged.
 
You are not supposed to have a clue. Just more of the usual D.C., smoke and mirrors and spin and BS. :p

This^^ The earliest that the facts will be made known to us mundanes is when it's no longer a relevant issue. And even then, expect the facts to be spun to make TPTB look good and fit the regime's desired narrative.
 
The Benghazi mess is a pretty fucked up situation that was worth investigating. IMO, Hillary's role in the whole thing is rather minimal, but the GOP strategists saw it as a way to attack her so she has been made the focal point of the whole thing. That's not to absolve her of blame.

The short version of the story is, we had an embassy in Benghazi. This embassy also happened to house a "CIA annex" which has been rumored to have been used a prison and interrogation center for a large part of northern Africa. The locals didn't like this, so they stormed the compound and killed four people. The US government tried to tell us the attack was motivated by some movie on youtube that showed mohammed or some shit. That was quickly proven to be a lie.

The real story is, why did we have the secret CIA base there, and why did the government cover up the cause of the attack rather than admitting it was blowback? The CIA annex aspect of the story has been basically dropped since nearly immediately when it happened.
 
The real story is, why did we have the secret CIA base there, and why did the government cover up the cause of the attack rather than admitting it was blowback? The CIA annex aspect of the story has been basically dropped since nearly immediately when it happened.

I think the real question is, why didn't we just carpet bomb everything within a 20 square mile area surrounding the embassy. Or at least find some scapegoats and string up their disembowled remains outside the building.

Mankind has an 8000 year record of what works and what doesn't when it comes to running empires. If we're gonna do this thing, I wish to hell they would just stop phoning it in.
 
Benghazi was the result of us having hundreds of embassies in countries we do NOT belong in....Hillary is part of the problem, but now shes just a scapegoat for hypocrites in both parties.
 
"She didn't answer the 3 A.M. phone call." - Rand Paul

Does anyone truly believe that no forces were available to counter-strike this attack? In a region where we rule the skies with drones. Does anyone believe that calls from the division head for increased security went unanswered? Does anyone still believe that the situation was caused by a video? That's the official White House version. Or do others even remember that?
 
Well the guy who was killed was against having security detail, or wanted it: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...leaded-extra-security-Libya-hours-killed.html
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/report-stevens-declined-security-091406

She is blamed for the attack in Benghazi. She should be blamed for setting Libya on fire and then spreading it to Syria, leaving death, chaos, and destruction along the way. Libya is her personal crowning achievement in nihilistic destruction of another country.
 
I think the real question is, why didn't we just carpet bomb everything within a 20 square mile area surrounding the embassy. Or at least find some scapegoats and string up their disembowled remains outside the building.

Mankind has an 8000 year record of what works and what doesn't when it comes to running empires. If we're gonna do this thing, I wish to hell they would just stop phoning it in.

Benghazi happened when Qaddafi was deposed.

why was that a good idea bender? :confused:
 
The Benghazi mess is a pretty fucked up situation that was worth investigating. IMO, Hillary's role in the whole thing is rather minimal, but the GOP strategists saw it as a way to attack her so she has been made the focal point of the whole thing. That's not to absolve her of blame.

The short version of the story is, we had an embassy in Benghazi. This embassy also happened to house a "CIA annex" which has been rumored to have been used a prison and interrogation center for a large part of northern Africa. The locals didn't like this, so they stormed the compound and killed four people. The US government tried to tell us the attack was motivated by some movie on youtube that showed mohammed or some shit. That was quickly proven to be a lie.

The real story is, why did we have the secret CIA base there, and why did the government cover up the cause of the attack rather than admitting it was blowback? The CIA annex aspect of the story has been basically dropped since nearly immediately when it happened.

Weren't they also running a rat line of weapons from Libya to Syrian Rebels?
 
Weren't they also running a rat line of weapons from Libya to Syrian Rebels?

The fuss over what Hillary did or didn't do during Benghazi is a partisan limited hangout for the deeper false flags, the most immediate one being the CIA gun-running operation to Syria, which was illegal according to the UN, and involved US weapons (not just guns left behind by Libyan fighters).

The likely BIG cover-up is that the siege of the embassy was a botched false flag that went deeply sideways, that was originally designed to benefit Obama. What we don't know for sure, to date, is what went sideways, and who was behind the botch. E.g., according to this video, Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer said that his sources tell him that Obama was one of the people in the room watching the Benghazi attack go down. Col. Shaffer believes it would have taken an order by the president to intervene or not:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGPHm2bpryc

It seems somebody wanted the incident to happen, since the planes that could have stopped it were called off despite senior people refusing to go along. As stated before: The working theory I still think ties this all together, is that the Benghazi incident was part of a false flag that was originally planned to rebound in Obama's favor, that went deeply sideways. E.g., the diplomats were only supposed to be taken hostage, with the anti-Muslim film being cited as the reason. This seems to be backed up by the fact that those performing the siege appear to have known exactly where to go to breach security at the facility, and from there where to find Stevens.

Then a follow-up 'heroic response' was to follow, by way of Barry ordering "the CIA and later the military to launch a rescue mission." The news cycle surrounding the successful (staged) conclusion of the rescue story would eclipse any questions about blaming the film, just as the "we killed Osama" story and news cycle killed widespread scrutiny over the photoshopped birth certificate he released days before the Osama raid in spring 2011.

Only somebody goofed, or got over-eager, or straight out flipped the script and got the diplomats killed instead of captured. Barry was undecided whether to use the military for a reprisal, as now there would be no feel-good "he saved our people" campaign lift coming out of it. The hesitation allowed real questions about the whole event to roll out in the opposite direction that he intended.

Did Bilderberg quietly direct Hillary or the CIA et al to go lethal in Benghazi, behind Obarry's back, as part of it changing the script about his re-election, to instead install Romney as Puppet-in-chief? Or was Mossad/Bibi involved by planting provocateurs among the raiders, who killed the diplomats to embarrass the President, and thus contribute to him losing to Romney? If the latter is true, could this be the reason why relations between Barry and Bibi have worsened since 2012?

If the actual deaths of the diplomats that resulted were not intended, or part of the script, perhaps the White House now wishes it had let the planes stop the assault. But once the op was underway, Obama robotically stuck to the plan to blame the video. Perhaps they were thinking about a way to salvage the op with a new 'stage two' incident to eclipse the first, but Obama nixed it. Otherwise, if the deaths were intended, the blame-the-video narrative makes no sense.
 
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Seymour Hersh wrote a long essay about what the CIA called "The Rat Line" here:

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n08/seymour-m-hersh/the-red-line-and-the-rat-line

It was basically a way to send arms from Libya into Turkey which would then be funneled to Al Qaeda also known as "The Syrian Rebels" in Syria. Republicans want to use it to show that Hillary failed the embassy and let Americans die. Democrats say it was an attack and not much could have been done to prevent it. NEITHER SIDE wants to talk about the fact that the United States was sending weapons to Al Qaeda. Which is why we have a gigantic controversy yet no one wants to really dig deep into it.
 
Benghazi was the result of us having hundreds of embassies in countries we do NOT belong in....Hillary is part of the problem, but now shes just a scapegoat for hypocrites in both parties.

Though technically Libya wasn't a country anymore at that point, thanks to Hillary. That is the real story, which is being completely obstructed by this stupid Benghazi crap. Hillary was the architect of the Libyan war which turned Libya in to a failed state run by regional warlords and allowed for the exportation of tons of weapons and munitions which would form the arsenal of what eventually would become ISIS. The CIA was using Libya as a staging ground to ship weapons to Syria, and it was while performing that duty that the Ambassador got killed.
 
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