I don't belong here....

eldeeder

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Strange sounding post, I know, but bear with me.

I am what you would probably call a liberal. I am very much pro-choice. I hate guns. I am an atheist. I do think the government should take on certain tasks in which profit should not be a motive. i.e. Air traffic control, health care, and a few other smaller items.

So now, allow me to explain why I am a Ron Paul supporter. I am going to use the example of Guns and Abortion (2 sensitive subjects) for this.

Guns are stupid. Just plain stupid. I'm not going to go into the reasons why, there is no reason to. Im not posting this to argue about guns. Let's just say thats how I feel about the issue, and you'll have a tough time changing it.

Abortion? Right or wrong, it has to remain legal. Why? So it can be regulated, preventing "back-ally" abortions. I don't consider it ethical after the 1st trimester, but, as an atheist, I am conflicted in my own views about this topic, so no reason to force my speculative views upon you.

So... There are my arguments. A lot of people on here would fight me tooth and nail about them, but first let me explain my support of Ron Paul.

Guns? The second amendment. The constitution is NOT pick and choose. Its all or nothing. I hate guns, but understand that gun control only takes guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens. I hate guns period, but tough shit for me, the constitution doesn't. If I want to take your guns away, I have to fight to AMEND the constitution. Not just make a law saying "no more guns for you..." And I do understand why our founding fathers wanted the second amendment.

Abortion? Roe v Wade is actually on my side. It upholds my beliefs. Oh, wait though. Its AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION, and like I said people, ITS NOT PICK AND CHOOSE. Ron Paul wants it gone. Not so he can replace it, but because its not the federal governments place.

Thats why I am a Ron Paul supporter. I don't agree with a lot of peoples politics, but I do agree that what we have isn't working. We all need to find a common ground, and what better place than our own constitution.

Anyway, to sum it up, It's NOT about politics anymore! It's about getting back to our senses. Its about waking America up! It's about saying "HEY! Freedom means people can do things you dont approve of! As long as they don't impose upon your freedoms!" (im sure there is a better way to phrase that)

So, while I find I don't agree with many people I meet, I couldn't agree with the movement more.

And let's be honest with ourselves. What fun would any of this be if we all agreed on every issue? Might as well work for fox news then... :)


DR. RON PAUL ----> The only candidate who is ACTUALLY bringing people together!
 
/salute

Great post. But of course you belong here. Freedom is a big tent.
 
You Liberal Hippie!!!111!1

*whack*

Sorry, I am still trying to bury my former neoconsevative self. :)
 
That is how I have gotten all my democrat leaning friends and family commited to voting for Ron Paul. The only friends I am having a damn hard time to getting to consider Ron Paul are my Republican friends.
 
You are welcome here. There is every reason for a self-professed 'liberal' to like Ron. The Constitution doesn't step on too many toes, except those of tyrants.
 
It is every patriots duty to rally to the defense of the constitution because without it... our government no longer has any restraints.
We all feel the urgency despite our leanings.
 
I will use my Second Amendment to protect your 1st..........I just really hope you use your 1st to help protect my 2nd.
 
Welcome :) I'm a life-long Democrat myself. I dislike guns, but understand the need for people to protect themselves against the government. Abortion effects me not at all, and I know that it's too complicated to pretend I have the answer.

Never in my life did I think I'd be supporting a republican, much less filing as a PCO for them. Then again (as I tell my friends), Ron Paul is about as much of a Republican as I am. The way he voted before the War/Patriot Act was the way I WISH that the Democrats had voted instead of losing their spines.
 
You very much belong here. Dispite your differences you use common sense and logic in choosing who you vote for. If even 10% of this country did that the world would be a much better place.
 
I will use my Second Amendment to protect your 1st..........I just really hope you use your 1st to help protect my 2nd.

Cheers friend. Ill do my best, and you do yours.

and BTW people, the true meaning of Liberal, and Liberatarian are NOT far apart. Somehow progressives have stolen the term "liberal" and now run from it.
 
I will use my Second Amendment to protect your 1st..........I just really hope you use your 1st to help protect my 2nd.

Yes that is the idea. You mind your business, I mind mine, and together we stick up for each others business.
 
Cheers friend. Ill do my best, and you do yours.

and BTW people, the true meaning of Liberal, and Liberatarian are NOT far apart. Somehow progressives have stolen the term "liberal" and now run from it.

Dr. Paul talks about this in his speeches... liberal and conservative were children of Libertarianism, each splitting freedom in half. One had economic freedom, the other had social freedom. What Ron Paul wants to do is unite those two parts into one.
I think we should meld the parts into one.. and this is done with tolerance and trust in your fellow man. Live and let live... everyone free to be different and thats ok.
 
You are very welcome here. :)

I have found it to be quite an educational process for me to see how very much many of us disagree on a few of the issues, but have joined together in this campaign to support the Constitution and individual liberty. I guess because we realize that if we don't have those, all the rest won't matter one bit.
 
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