I am starting to see the big picture. The campaign has a plan

I don't know about the brokered Convention....I think he's leaning more towards a 3rd party run..... It would be nice to see the libertarian and constitutional parties pick him up, a combined effort. Don't get me wrong I would like to see Ron get GOP nod...but I don't think the puppet masters are going to let that happen if they can help it.
 
maybe so BUT

rp08orbust said:
As soon as it is down to McCain and Paul, the MSM will declare McCain the winner and all debates will be canceled. Even if debates are not canceled, McCain will refuse to participate because he would have nothing to gain by debating Paul, while Paul would have everything to gain.
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Noone will be able to use the "Paul is a wasted vote" argument anymore, so he could pile up the protest votes. However, I do not share everyone else's optimism about Huck or Romney dropping out. Why would they drop out? They could just slack off campaigning, but the media would still give them free advertising by interviewing them. Plus, they will probably both have enough delegates to justify sticking it out to the brokered convention. Believe me, whatever has to be done to silence Paul will be done. This will only be won by massive grassroots canvassing and donation efforts, and it will probably take all the way to November to get the votes. But keep in mind, if he goes 3rd party, all of our donation totals reset, so we can flood him with money again! Local cable ads, local newspaper ads, it will all have to be done at the local level, just how Dr. Paul would like it. The national media will never, EVER help us.
 
Chibioz said:
Well I think that says more about how poorly we have been doing fundraising wise this quarter. Huck by no means has enough to run a full fledged national campaign. If not for a great Q4 we wouldn't either. We need to get back into top tier fundraising with a successful money bomb tomorrow.
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Huckabee and Romney may have enough left in the tank for some Super Tuesday wins, and from that trailing strength (with Paul's pickup of delegates) may be able to deprive McCain of a majority of delegates. Most of them will not be specifically committed to a candidate until the months after ST, and Paul is far, far more prepared for the delegate battles to come after Feb. 5. Also keep in mind that after ST, half of the Paul supporters nationwide will be free (since their primary will have past) to concentrate on helping Paul contest all the remaining states, through the already established projects (money bombs, call or writing campaigns, et al). Paul's army will stay at this, as a unified national effort, until the bitter end.
 
rp08orbust said:
As soon as it is down to McCain and Paul, the MSM will declare McCain the winner and all debates will be canceled. Even if debates are not canceled, McCain will refuse to participate because he would have nothing to gain by debating Paul, while Paul would have everything to gain.
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Quite right.

The media is already characterizing the Repub nomination as McCain v. Romney. Huckabee is rarely mentioned. Paul, never.

Newsweek has -- for two weeks in a row now -- listed the Republican Candidates as: McCain, Romney, Huckabee, and Giuliani. And then, as only the first three.

When Romney drops out, Paul and Huckabee will go down the memory hole.

I don't think folks quite understand the power of the media. Ron Paul, regardless of how many delegates he picks up, will NOT BE MENTIONED.

Real honestly, Huckabee will get screwed the most out of this. He really could win some post Feb 5 states. But, he won't because those folks WILL NOT EVEN KNOW HE IS STILL IN THE RACE BY THEN.

There will be no more debates, no more interviews, and no more articles.

What will be even more depressing is that the supposedly conservative blowhards like Limbaugh, Coulter, Hannity, and FreeRepublic will rally around McCain by Feb 20.

Call me a troll if you want. But, those are the facts.

I don't have any solutions to suggest. I do not believe there are any.
 
I think they are going to pull a variation of what they pulled in LA - that "pro-life/Family values slate". I think McCain and Romney are going to both run for as long as they can to monopolize media/debate time and enjoying a comfortable lead, not spending much money on the primaries until that lead drops. One of them will then drop out and be the others VP candidate, so all their delegates go to them. Capture the nomination by running multiple candidates and having the ones in the lead join forces.

Paul's best chance in that scenario is to ask Huckabee to be his VP and so get his delegates. It's all about delegates.

Then we have all those free delegates and delegates who can vote as they wish after X number of votes.

This is going to be an uphill struggle...

-n
 
ron paul is the new jerry brown. a candidate that was awful percentage-wise in the early states, but kept exceeding expectations until until there were only two candidates left. but for RP to make a serious run, he must be viable on February 19 to win Wisconsin. Winning Maine and Washington would also be helpful.
 
justatrey said:
Great post, but I have to disagree with you on the mainstream media. If it were to come down to McCain vs. Paul, they would spin it as if McCain had amazingly won early. They would laugh about Ron Paul still being in the race, declare victory for McCain, tell us the convention was meaningless this year, and focus on Hillary and Obama.

They care far more about keeping a candidate like Paul out of power than they do about ratings. They would literally hold a debate with McCain by himself if they have to.
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I think your logic is a bit flawed. Let's say that everyone drops but McCain and Paul. Then the media declare McCain the winner. I'll bet you that people won't even bother to make it out to vote in the upcoming primaries because they don't figure it would matter. This would have to benifit paul. We can continue to pound Pauls message and gain support while all of McCains supporters fall asleep.
 
tangent4ronpaul said:
I think they are going to pull a variation of what they pulled in LA - that "pro-life/Family values slate". I think McCain and Romney are going to both run for as long as they can to monopolize media/debate time and enjoying a comfortable lead, not spending much money on the primaries until that lead drops. One of them will then drop out and be the others VP candidate, so all their delegates go to them. Capture the nomination by running multiple candidates and having the ones in the lead join forces.

Paul's best chance in that scenario is to ask Huckabee to be his VP and so get his delegates. It's all about delegates.

Then we have all those free delegates and delegates who can vote as they wish after X number of votes.

This is going to be an uphill struggle...

-n
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hmm, could happen. I've noticed that Huckabee has been the only candidate that acts decent toward Paul.
 
Chibioz said:
Well I think that says more about how poorly we have been doing fundraising wise this quarter. Huck by no means has enough to run a full fledged national campaign. If not for a great Q4 we wouldn't either. We need to get back into top tier fundraising with a successful money bomb tomorrow.
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We're not doing badly. We raised $4M in January, and if you include today (first day of February), it's $5-6M, depending on how today's money bomb goes.
 
Joel High said:
I agree, but from a Pro-Life perspective, he is for special circumstances which the hard core Pro-Lifers are against.
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Right, and Dr. Paul can follow up with:

"My 'special circumstances' say that it's a state issue, where you'll have a much better chance at influencing the outcome than you will with nine unelected robes."

:cool:
 
These are all media-organized debates. If it comes down to Paul & McCain, there simply won't be any more televised debates. The media will switch the focus to "McCain v Clinton or McCain v Obama"?
 
No way Romney will drop out. The most we can hope for is a 3 man race.

But yes, RP knows what he's doing as far as which states to cover. It also seems like he's going for the caucus states.
 
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